Liverpool bomb incident 14/11/21

[Bahnhof Strasse]

He might need a new cab, though.

bimble was moaning about clearing up vom in her motor last week, always someone worse off.

 

[WouldBe]

I'm normally waving a note at them as they come to a stop (non black cab though) so never noticed them being locked.

"Hand over all your money"?

 

[Spymaster]

Strong case for the insurers not paying out. Crowd funder and tabloid story should see him right though

I'd be surprised if his insurers would chance the public backlash against them withholding payment for the sake of 20-odd grand.

 

[gosub]

I'd be surprised if his insurers would chance the public backlash against them withholding payment for the sake of 20-odd grand.

Act of god.

 

[Petcha]

I was so drunk I did a runner from an Uber the other day

I can beat that. I got thrown out of an Uber a couple of months ago as my Tinder date went on a massive drunken rampage against the driver accusing him of being a misogynist because he changed the station from Beyonce on his radio while I'm sitting there trying to suggest we play some Smooth FM instead. All very upsetting. I actually got blocked on Uber for a bit. Still got a shag though,.

 

[Calamity1971]

Tory prick!
Councillor apologises for 'grotesque' Liverpool bombing Tweet

 

[Spymaster]

... accusing him of being a misogynist because he changed the station from Beyonce ...

 

[tonysingh]

No terrorist group has claimed this

Tory prick!
Councillor apologises for 'grotesque' Liverpool bombing Tweet

Fuck me, the comments on that link.....

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

This very much depends on which side of the road the cab stops on!

If it’s raining heavily you may reconsider, but most of the time it’s not.

Have you ever been to Manchester?

 

[bimble]

He might need a new cab, though.

i was thinking that, is 'exploding passenger' in your insurance as standard idk.

 

[editor]

Tory prick!
Councillor apologises for 'grotesque' Liverpool bombing Tweet

From that article:

The image, posted at 9.50pm on Monday night, sparked an instant backlash with hundreds of comments condemning the councillor for the distasteful post just one day after the terror attack which killed the suspected suicide bomber after he was locked in a can by the driver.

The bullshitting twat is also saying his account was compromised.

 

[Spymaster]

Have you ever been to Manchester?

I have indeed. Love it.

 

[Athos]

it was my recollection there was something explicit but i think that might have been in crispin blunt's book about the 2005 attacks. and over the past 14 years or so since i read the book i've come to the conclusion he's not really that reliable a source. there appear to have been (at least) two covenants of security, the one to which you've referred and a more general one between individual muslims and the country in which they live not to attack it while their faith isn't under threat (a simplification) - certainly in 2003 omar bakri mohammed said that for the moment there was a covenant of security in place, and it was his subsequent argument that the state hadn't kept its end of the bargain which might have influenced the 7/7 and 21/7 bombers.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that. But think it's quite different from the idea that the government negotiated with UK-based Islamist terrorists. Which is something that seems unlikely to be fruitful given the lack of coordination and, more importantly, the nature of their aim being so different from that of, say, the IRA.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Strong case for the insurers not paying out. Crowd funder and tabloid story should see him right though

Lots of insurance policies exclude terrorism cover, iirc. Not sure whether that would apply to taxi insurance generally though.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Its act of god innit obvs rather than terrorism the bomber would argue

But anyway. Discussion of AQ and like shit structure outside the Middle East is kinda interesting- it’s a franchise effectively, with a very low level of entry requirement

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I have indeed. Love it.

I mean, it's not raining heavily at the moment, but it has been and will be, it's only a matter of time.

 

[gosub]

From that article:



The bullshitting twat is also saying his account was compromised.

tbf there was some Labour foot in mouth yesterday

 

[Pickman's model]

tbf there was some Labour foot in mouth yesterday

not watched the vid but in the picture he looks like he's thinking something's not quite right

 

[Pickman's model]

I have indeed. Love it.

bet you went to rockworld and had chips and gravy

 

[Dogsauce]

Can't see him being granted asylum now.

I dunno, suspect he’ll get to stay here now, Priti isn’t going to charter a plane for this one.

 

[Dogsauce]

It’d be funny if he was actual a full red-blooded jihadi but the security services are just spreading the Christian convert thing so that he gets no respect from the similarly afflicted, doesn’t get to be their hero or boost morale amongst cunts.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It’d be funny if he was actual a full red-blooded jihadi but the security services are just spreading the Christian convert thing so that he gets no respect from the similarly afflicted, doesn’t get to be their hero or boost morale amongst cunts.

More likely he cynically became a convert to improve his asylum chances similarly to how prisoners suddenly find god if it might speed up parole.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He’s been described as a failed asylum seeker. If that’s the case, why wasn’t he deported?

Some countries are listed as unsafe and you won't be deported there even if your asylum claim fails. What happens instead is you get left in indefinite limbo, still required to sign on with the home office regularly but not able to work and not entitled to any state support.

Iran is on the UK redlist, presumably Syria, but somehow not Iraq IIRC. I suppose the official narrative is we fixed Iraq so it's fine now.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Some countries are listed as unsafe and you won't be deported there even if your asylum claim fails. What happens instead is you get left in indefinite limbo, still required to sign on with the home office regularly but not able to work and not entitled to any state support.

Iran is on the UK redlist, presumably Syria, but somehow not Iraq IIRC. I suppose the official narrative is we fixed Iraq so it's fine now.

I’ve read that he disposed of any papers prior to arrival so the home office couldn’t ascertain his origin. Presumably this was so he could claim he was from elsewhere but also difficult to deport someone in this situation as they can’t make them stateless.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Presumably this was so he could claim he was from elsewhere but also difficult to deport someone in this situation as they can’t make them stateless.

This does happen. But in most cases you can hardly blame people for, say, calling themselves an Iranian Kurd when Turkish Kurds are somehow not oppressed enough to make the cut. Especially if your actual home country of 'Kurdistan' isn't an answer you're allowed to give.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

This does happen. But in most cases you can hardly blame people for, say, calling themselves an Iranian Kurd when Turkish Kurds are somehow not oppressed enough to make the cut. Especially if your actual home country of 'Kurdistan' isn't an answer you're allowed to give.

I’m not condemning it per se. I’m sure I’d do similar if facing similar.

 

[JimW]

This does happen. But in most cases you can hardly blame people for, say, calling themselves an Iranian Kurd when Turkish Kurds are somehow not oppressed enough to make the cut. Especially if your actual home country of 'Kurdistan' isn't an answer you're allowed to give.

One article I read said they didn't believe he was Syrian as claimed but rather Jordanian.

 

[SpookyFrank]

One article I read said they didn't believe he was Syrian as claimed but rather Jordanian.

The whole thing just shows up the stupidity of 'nationality' as a concept. You can't do a scientific test for it, because it's not a real thing.

And it's hardly a surprise that some people show up in the UK without papers when we force them to fucking swim to get here

 

[cupid_stunt]

And it's hardly a surprise that some people show up in the UK without papers when we force them to fucking swim to get here

Err, no one swims here.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The whole thing just shows up the stupidity of 'nationality' as a concept. You can't do a scientific test for it, because it's not a real thing.

And it's hardly a surprise that some people show up in the UK without papers when we force them to fucking swim to get here

And yet his actions are likely to make things several shades worse for others in a similar situation. Because now they’ll be looking into all the others in limbo who don’t have any ill intent whatsoever.