Liverpool bomb incident 14/11/21

[two sheds]

yes almost worth updating the thread title to "Liverpool bomb incident 14/11/21, one twat dead"

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

The GMP are in charge of terrorism in the North West, so you'd expect suspected terrorism incidents to be dealt with by them.

I didn't know that, thank you.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Not sure that white fascists can typically be expected to try bombing remembrance day services at Church of England cathedrals...

But the explosion occurred outside a hospital. What makes you say the remembrance day service at the cathedral was the target?

 

[gosub]

But the explosion occurred outside a hospital. What makes you say the remembrance day service at the cathedral was the target?

coz sucide bombing a materniity hospital is nuts.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

this would be the north west counter terrorism unit which hasn't existed since april 2018

You mean you're expecting cops to be up to date and efficient?

 

[keybored]

coz sucide bombing a materniity hospital is nuts.

Relatively soft target, huge shock value, maximum outrage.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I’m not sure even the Mirror would get that wrong. TBF.

Someone might've referred to the unit by its old name to a journalist.

Eg journalist calls, old timer in Liverpool police answers the phone and says you need to call number 0161 XXX XXXX and speak to the old name of NW counter-terrorism unit instead of new name of Counter Terrorism Policing North West.

Not necessarily a journalistic error.

 

[Ax^]

Best way to get around any city and keeping a low profile is a labelled cab.

not if you bomb has lights on it whilst you are on the way to the target

was he talking to himself going "pretty lights"

 

[not a trot]

coz sucide bombing a materniity hospital is nuts.

Bombing anywhere is fucking nuts.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

In that case I'm speculating that it was a breakaway faction of the Mother's Union. Until we know.

In that case I'm speculating that it was a breakaway faction of the Mother's Union. Until we know.

Nah, Fathers For Justice are more militant.

 

[Pickman's model]

You mean you're expecting cops to be up to date and efficient?

Didn't know platinumsage was a plod

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Then you've either never used back cabs, or are fortunately young enough to have only used them in the last 10-15 years or so because they haven't all taken cards for much longer.

Passengers are never locked into black cabs.

I don't think I look at all dodgy, but I've often been locked in the back of a black cab. They usually put the childlock on in Manchester.

 

[Pickman's model]

Bombing anywhere is fucking nuts.

The angry brigade bombing the home secretary's house, the IRA bombings at Warrenpoint, sligo and Brighton, the mortaring of downing street, not sure those were nuts. Not to mention the gunpowder treason and plot

 

[Dogsauce]

coz sucide bombing a materniity hospital is nuts.

There was an attack on a maternity place in Afghanistan not that long ago. Horrible shit.

The idea is to make people angry, maximise fury and stoke division. Make people pick a side. Could also have selected a hospital as they’ve been bombed in Syria and similar places, see how you like it. Then it may also not have been the intended target, seems it was a premature detonation. Maybe if he’d asked for the cathedral or remembrance parade it would have aroused suspicion so picked a plausible destination nearby.

anyway, once they’ve swept up the bits and put them in a shoebox I hope they give the cunt a Norman Munce headstone.

 

[Raheem]

If you want to get away with bombing a hospital, do it from the air.

 

[keybored]

If you want to get away with bombing a hospital, do it from the air.

Sounds dangerous. Do it from a comfy office chair, take a few schools out if the day's going a bit too slow.

 

[ddraig]

Couple of front pages shown on newsnight claiming they had converted to christianity

Times Front Page 16th of November 2021 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

The Times also leads on how the suspected terrorist in Liverpool converted from Islam to Christianity.

www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk

 

[William of Walworth]

Bomber bloke has been named as Emad Al Swealmeen

Pictured: Liverpool bomber Emad al-Swealmeen

The Remembrance Sunday terrorist has been named as 32-year-old Emad al-Swealmeen.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Liverpool hospital blast: police name man killed in explosion – as it happened

Police say Emad Al Swealmeen was man killed in blast on Sunday; UK terror threat level increased to severe, meaning attack is ‘highly likely’

www.theguardian.com

That first line on the Telegraph article says that [named dead terrorist] had 'converted to Christianity' ,,,, but how the fuck did the Telegraph 'know' that????

If true though, that particular thing would (?) or could (?) put a completely different perspective on matters. Possibly!

Far too much still unknownI IMO.

(ETA : well timed post, ddraig ! )

 

[Magnus McGinty]

That first line on the Telgraph article says that [named dead terrorist] had 'converted to Christianity' ,,,, but how rgw fuck did the Telegraph 'know' that????

If true though, that particular thing would (?) or could (?) put a completely different perspective on matters. Possibly!

Far too much still unknownI IMO.

(ETA : well timed post, ddraig ! )

The Mail are making much of him being a Syrian Refugee who was taken in by a family and he converted at that time. No idea how much of that Is true given they appear to be quoting verbatim anyone’s dog presently.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The Mail are making much of him being a Syrian Refugee who was taken in by a family and he converted at that time. No idea how much of that Is true given they appear to be quoting verbatim anyone’s dog presently.

Actually Christian volunteers rather than a family. But fuck knows. Apparently had MH issues.

 

[Raheem]

The guy who stabbed some people in a park at the beginning of lockdown (I can't remember which town it was) was also a refugee Christian convert with MH difficulties.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The guy who stabbed some people in a park at the beginning of lockdown (I can't remember which town it was) was also a refugee Christian convert with MH difficulties.

It was Reading

 

[xenon]

They're certainly not in London. Most of us get out of the cab and pay the driver through the front passenger window. A cab driver once told me that he knows the Londoners when they do that. Only people unused to using black cabs try to squeeze their money through the hole in the screen.

Only occasionally get black cabs when in London. But that is what the hole is for no? otherwise you’ve got to get out on the roadside. Or presume the passenger window is open.

 

[Humberto]

So looks like he wanted to bomb a maternity ward, but had to get a taxi?

 

[scifisam]

So looks like he wanted to bomb a maternity ward, but had to get a taxi?

I think it's unclear where he wanted to bomb, but getting a taxi there isn't so weird. A mate driving him would then definitely get caught, and if they're the crap terrorists they seem to be they probably can't afford to lose a car by parking it up and leaving it.

 

[Dogsauce]

Taxis seem to be a common way of getting about in Liverpool, something I’ve noticed when I’ve worked there, seemed to be more about than in other cities I’ve lived in except perhaps London.

 

[Spymaster]

Only occasionally get black cabs when in London. But that is what the hole is for no? otherwise you’ve got to get out on the roadside. Or presume the passenger window is open.

Yes, the hole is for tourists to push their money through. Why would you have to get out into the road? There are doors on both sides. If you get out on the driver’s side he’’ll wind down his window!

 

[bimble]

Not sure that white fascists can typically be expected to try bombing remembrance day services at Church of England cathedrals...

i don't know, people like apparently exist, life must be very confusing for them.

 

[MrCurry]

That first line on the Telegraph article says that [named dead terrorist] had 'converted to Christianity' ,,,, but how the fuck did the Telegraph 'know' that????

If true though, that particular thing would (?) or could (?) put a completely different perspective on matters. Possibly!

Far too much still unknownI IMO.

(ETA : well timed post, ddraig ! )

Total speculation, but if he’s come from Syria and has been converted to Christianity he might be expected to be somewhat outraged that the church is getting involved with honouring the military forces which he has just seen destroy his country.

That would be a feasible motive, if the hospital was just to be the drop off point for him to walk to the remembrance service.

 

[Spymaster]

The guy who stabbed some people in a park at the beginning of lockdown (I can't remember which town it was) was also a refugee Christian convert with MH difficulties.

Both of these claims are very heavily disputed. They're what were reported in the immediate aftermath of the Reading attacks, much like these speculative claims now, but his supposed conversion was highly unlikely given that no evidence of such conversion was shown, he was shouting Allahu Akhbar at the time of the attacks, and had viewed shedloads of Isis material on his computer over years. The mental illness was also disputed by Belmarsh psychiatrists at his trial (though supported by a subsequent news report).

Man viewed extreme Isis content before Reading knife attack, court hears

Old Bailey hears Khairi Saadallah had longstanding interest in extremism

www.theguardian.com