Johann Hari admits copying and pasting interview quotes

[danny la rouge]

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...i/johann-hari-a-personal-apology-2354679.html

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/09/unethical-journalism

The economist refutes his apology

 

[danny la rouge]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/09/unethical-journalism

The economist refutes his apology

The Economist is correct in its analysis.

My favourite bit of the statement of regret (it isn't an apology), not including the stuff about all his subjects being incoherent, is the bit where he gives back the Orwell Prize. Then says it was going to be taken back anyway. Proper lolled at that.

 

[butchersapron]

Booted off the Rebellious media conference. Pity.

 

[sihhi]

Booted off the Rebellious media conference. Pity.

He doesn't care about that he has a new article in the New York Times, probably still the world's most important newspaper for Western intelligentsia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/books/review/three-famines-by-thomas-keneally-book-review.html

Why does everyone keep calling Mengistu Stalinist?

Odd and lame.

It’s odd that he actually witnessed the Ethiopian famine of the late ’80s, but chooses not to provide any sense of what it looked or sounded or smelled like. It’s an unpleasant irony to say of a book about famine that it leaves you hungry for more, but this one does.

 

[Idris2002]

Mengistu was Stalinist, surely? Or at least practised 'Stalinism with Ethiopian characteristics'.

E2A: Ah, I see, Johann thinks Mengistu was doing a perfect imitation of Stalinist 'theology'. Actually, his rule had a lot of continuity with the Emperor's, only with much more repression.

 

[big eejit]

Hari's lucky he didn't have to answer to Independent boss Alexander Lebedev. Here he is taking out a fellow guest on a Russian talk show.

http://themediablog.typepad.com/the-media-blog/2011/09/lebedev-punch-tv-video.html

 

[butchersapron]

More Hari sockpuppets uncovered, including examples of him using here fake accounts to back up his other fake accounts, getting one fake acount to pretend to email another fake account to corroborate a fake account by a fake account. See comments from 16:03 onwards in particular. Plenty more to come, of the sort of disturbed actions such as spending xmas eve/day last year editing Littlejohn's wiki entry.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

it's fascinating looking into this, the story just keeps on giving - the fact that people like this are so angry with him, means he hasn't got away with it yet.

 

[butchersapron]

Damn right it ain't over. The two groups of people Hari has manged to get away with it are 1) his journo mates and media liberals. People who helped hoist him so high through a mix of professional and political nepotism. They are implicated in him and his rise and so have to defend him. Plus they're shameless unprincipled liars. 2) Those who haven't really followed the case very closely - the sort of readership that allowed the previous group to hoist Hari so high. The sort of lazy reader who decides on the truth or worth of an article by the closeness of their political views to those of the author. The sort of person who whines that Littlejohn does worse, without understanding that if this is true then hammering Hari to the utmost is their best weapon against people like them, that if they want to nail Littlejohn etc they must nail Hari as well. This group is also as utterly unprincipled as the first. Most people who have taken any interest in this come from neither group luckily.

 

[revlon]

Damn right it ain't over. The two groups of people Hari has manged to get away with it are 1) his journo mates and media liberals. People who helped hoist him so high through a mix of professional and political nepotism. They are implicated in him and his rise and so have to defend him. Plus they're shameless unprincipled liars. 2) Those who haven't really followed the case very closely - the sort of readership that allowed the previous group to hoist Hari so high. The sort of lazy reader who decides on the truth or worth of an article by the closeness of their political views to those of the author. The sort of person who whines that Littlejohn does worse, without understanding that if this is true then hammering Hari to the utmost is their best weapon against people like them, that if they want to nail Littlejohn etc they must nail Hari as well. This group is also as utterly unprincipled as the first. Most people who have taken any interest in this come from neither group luckily.

did hari steal your girlfriend?

 

[butchersapron]

From someone else.

 

[butchersapron]

This is a great one from Brian Whelan:

Pages and pages of wikipedia entries that Hari thought would be improved by adding himself to them

 

[butchersapron]

Wow, he is seriously ill.

 

[Orang Utan]

did he add himself to all of those entries though?

 

[butchersapron]

All of them, prob not. I doubt it. A load - yes.

 

[Dan U]

This is a great one from Brian Whelan:

he's like a dog with a bone on this on Twitter.

i think he won't die a happy man unless he nails Hari and Sunny Hadal (for different reasons)

 

[TruXta]

Johann Narcissus Hari?

 

[gosub]

Wow, he is seriously ill.

That, I presume is why he is still being defended. Roy Greenslade is still doing the leave Britney Hari alone thing, and this is a man, as he points out himself now teaches ethics and journalism

 

[butchersapron]

That, I presume is why he is still being defended. Roy Greenslade is still doing the leave Britney Hari alone thing, and this is a man, as he points out himself now teaches ethics and journalism

That's a reason not to defend him. Do you send a sick boy on a 4 month prestigious journalism course? Do you fuck.

 

[TruXta]

Greenslade does nowhere imply that Hari is ill or otherwise not compos mentis. On the contrary.

 

[krtek a houby]

Feeling magnanimous, I have decided to forgive his trespasses.

 

[butchersapron]

Feeling magnanimous, I have decided to forgive his trespasses.

The trespass is not yours to forgive. So fuck off.

 

[krtek a houby]

The trespass is not yours to forgive. So fuck off.

There are worse scoundrels out there, in all fairness. Murdoch, Desmond, Littlejohn et al.

Let him be. Let him be disciplined and analysed. Or will you not be happy until he tops himself?

 

[TruXta]

A bee is firmly stuck in Butchers' bonnet.

 

[butchersapron]

There are worse scoundrels out there, in all fairness. Murdoch, Desmond, Littlejohn et al.

Let him be. Let him be disciplined and analysed. Or will you not be happy until he tops himself?

2) Those who haven't really followed the case very closely - the sort of readership that allowed the previous group to hoist Hari so high. The sort of lazy reader who decides on the truth or worth of an article by the closeness of their political views to those of the author. The sort of person who whines that Littlejohn does worse, without understanding that if this is true then hammering Hari to the utmost is their best weapon against people like them, that if they want to nail Littlejohn etc they must nail Hari as well. This group is also as utterly unprincipled as the first.

Lazy reader. Thanks.

 

[butchersapron]

What sort of stuff do murdoch and desmond write btw?

 

[krtek a houby]

Lazy reader. Thanks.

I don't care who you rely on to telll you what to think and say but I forgive you, too. And you're a grade A cad.

 

[krtek a houby]

What sort of stuff do murdoch and desmond write btw?

Nothing that I'm aware of, they publish. They are stewards of evil empires, so they are far worse, by proxy - holding all that power.

 

[butchersapron]

Nothing that I'm aware of, they publish. They are stewards of evil empires, so they are far worse, by proxy - holding all that power.

So let's get them for writing crap journalism. Why do people like you always turn a blind eye whilst simulcasting your brave willingness to call out hypocrisy wherever you may find it. Even at your own expense. Fuck off and do it then.