Joe Biden's time is up

[lazythursday]

This is just mental isn't it? Why does anyone think that it's sensible to have an 86 year old President? How can this even be a debate? Let alone when the alternative is a demagogue who has just been gifted king-like powers by the Supreme Court.

Feels like watching the collapse of America in slow motion - or at least, the whole idea of America that's dominated my entire life. But the crazy thing is the amount of Democrats who seen happy to persist with this charade. Like some sort of collective mass delusion. He's too fucking old. Get a grip.

 

[chandlerp]

This is just mental isn't it? Why does anyone think that it's sensible to have an 86 year old President? How can this even be a debate? Let alone when the alternative is a demagogue who has just been gifted king-like powers by the Supreme Court.

Feels like watching the collapse of America in slow motion - or at least, the whole idea of America that's dominated my entire life. But the crazy thing is the amount of Democrats who seen happy to persist with this charade. Like some sort of collective mass delusion. He's too fucking old. Get a grip.

It's not so slow in motion, it's a headlong run into full on fascism. And the media are lapping it up even though they'll be the first against the wall if not praising gloriousl leader.

 

[MrCurry]

This is just mental isn't it? Why does anyone think that it's sensible to have an 86 year old President? How can this even be a debate? Let alone when the alternative is a demagogue who has just been gifted king-like powers by the Supreme Court.

Feels like watching the collapse of America in slow motion - or at least, the whole idea of America that's dominated my entire life. But the crazy thing is the amount of Democrats who seen happy to persist with this charade. Like some sort of collective mass delusion. He's too fucking old. Get a grip.

The collective result of individual corruption. Lots of already rich people pursuing their own best interests with not a care for the effect on the overall system.

With apologies to petee i have to say I’m glad I don’t live there.

 

[a_chap]

It strikes me that "the mainstream media" must be collectively shitting themselves today.

Presumably trump will be able to shut down any news organisation he doesn't agree with and punish their owners/reporters in whatever way he sees fit.

Or am I worrying unnecessarily because, of course, he would never do such a thing...?

 

[lazythursday]

The collective result of individual corruption. Lots of already rich people pursuing their own best interests with not a care for the effect on the overall system.

With apologies to petee i have to say I’m glad I don’t live there.

But I'm sure lots of the voices I'm seeing on social media chastising people to get with the programme and Back Biden are not just rich people pursuing their own interests. They're invested in a proposition that is plainly ludicrous and downright dangerous and unable to see that.

Also glad to be this side of the pond. At least our own lurch toward fascism appears delayed by five years. Though Starmer will likely be its handmaiden.

 

[two sheds]

But I'm sure lots of the voices I'm seeing on social media chastising people to get with the programme and Back Biden are not just rich people pursuing their own interests. They're invested in a proposition that is plainly ludicrous and downright dangerous and unable to see that.

but the alternative is a lot worse.

 

[krtek a houby]

It strikes me that "the mainstream media" must be collectively shitting themselves today.

Presumably trump will be able to shut down any news organisation he doesn't agree with and punish their owners/reporters in whatever way he sees fit.

Or am I worrying unnecessarily because, of course, he would never do such a thing...?

Nobody would never do such a thing more than Donald Trump, the crooked mainstream media knows it and the failing radical left know it, they hate America which is a terrible country, by the way, I aced the cognitive test etc etc burble

 

[lazythursday]

but the alternative is a lot worse.

But persisting with this nonsense - which has always been nonsense, despite a refusal to face up to it - that an eighty-something is electable is enabling the alternative!

 

[two sheds]

can't argue with that

 

[The39thStep]

At last some serious debate about Bidens health

 

[NoXion]

It strikes me that "the mainstream media" must be collectively shitting themselves today.

Presumably trump will be able to shut down any news organisation he doesn't agree with and punish their owners/reporters in whatever way he sees fit.

Or am I worrying unnecessarily because, of course, he would never do such a thing...?

I don't think they'll be too worried, since much of the US mainstream media carries water for MAGA anyway. Including so-called "liberal" outlets such as CNN which recently got bought by a conservative billionaire.

 

[Petcha]

His press secretary is almost as useless as him

 

[krtek a houby]

His press secretary is almost as useless as him

This would be the Breitbart Benny Johnson, plagiarist, conspiracy theorist and all round shit?

 

[Ax^]

hmm is trump going to win because of a bad presidential debate from joe

or because of how shite the party itself is .. starting to remind me of Corbyn elections

let destroy the party before asking people to vote for us


one dude just be exposed as a pedophile on from the release of further epstein files and gave rambling incoherent responses to much of the debate as Biden

but the democrats themselves are trying to torpedo their own chances before the official nomination

republicans might be chasing the devil but at least they keep true to the course after years of revelations and look set to win because of it

 

[Aladdin]

 

[Humberto]

I LAUGHED

 

[Ax^]

dictator for Christmas for the rest of american

very funny

 

[krtek a houby]

Disney joins the DEMbargo

Disney heir joins other Democrat backers to pause donations until Joe Biden steps aside

Abigail Disney says choice to suspend donations is based on ‘realism, not disrespect’, and suggests Kamala Harris as an alternative

www.theguardian.com

Tldr? Disney heir to hold back on donations to the Dems until Joe steps aside for Kamala. Damon Lindelof (of Lost, Watchmen fame) has also halted lining their pockets.

 

[two sheds]

 

[Cid]

He's doing some talking again. Few slips, but honestly he's more convincing than e.g. a certain recently elected prime minister.

*er... obviously a 10 minute speech hasn't got me convinced by genocide Joe, but y'know, I'm not one of the party faithful.

 

[teqniq]

I this is going to happen, the sooner it does the better:

Sen. Mark Warner seeks to assemble group of Democratic senators to ask Biden to exit race

 

[two sheds]

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/06/biden-abc-interview-trump-election-peace

ah that'll be ok then

 

[moochedit]

He's doing some talking again. Few slips, but honestly he's more convincing than e.g. a certain recently elected prime minister.

*er... obviously a 10 minute speech hasn't got me convinced by genocide Joe, but y'know, I'm not one of the party faithful.

Yes but was he reading an autocue?

 

[Cid]

Yes but was he reading an autocue?

Probably. Some lines that seemed like fumbled autocue prompts. But relatively good at it if so; looking around, talking to people in the audience etc. I'm not actually convinced, I think the thing I'm really getting at is that it was convincing enough and that's a bit of an issue if you want to replace him before the next debate, which isn't until Sept 10.

Although he has now claimed to be the first black woman to serve with a black president, so it's not all looking good.

Joe Biden accidentally says he is the 'first Black woman' to serve in White House – audio

During the interview Biden also defended his competency following his poor debate performance last week

www.theguardian.com

 

[magneze]

“I have medical doctors trailing me everywhere I go. I have an ongoing assessment of what I’m doing. They don’t hesitate to tell me if something is wrong,” he said.

Not the endorsement he thinks it is.

Joe Biden: key takeaways from the high-stakes ABC TV interview

The president blamed his debate performance on a bad cold, said he was in fine cognitive shape, and doubled down on staying in the race

www.theguardian.com

 

[two sheds]

His saying he needs more sleep and so won't be scheduling meetings after 8 p.m. didn't help all that much either.

 

[two sheds]

I wonder (hope) how true this is

• While the first 2024 presidential debate appeared to alarm some Democratic leaders, our surveys of swing-state for Bloomberg News show the matter has done little to change the underlying dynamics of the contest.
• In the aggregate, Biden continues to underperform Trump among each candidate’s respective 2020 voters and their own party bases, while the two presumptive nominees are splitting independent voters almost evenly.
• Within the individual states, Biden leads former President Donald Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin, cementing several months of slightly improved performance, but has no advantage in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.
• That said, among all swing-state voters, 55% said Biden should not continue his campaign, including 29% of Democrats and 58% of independents, and voters increasingly view each candidate’s vice presidential selection as important.
• While race dynamics remain relatively stable, the data suggests the public would be amenable to a different Democrat atop the ticket, should Biden ultimately decide to end his campaign.

Biden Leads Trump in Michigan, Wisconsin After Debate

Trump has widened his edge in Nevada and Pennsylvania

pro.morningconsult.com

 

[krtek a houby]

This is a shame. Being stubborn and blaming elites is too much like the other chump.

Biden insists in letter to Democrats and live TV interview he’s staying in race

President lashes out at ‘elites’ in party, saying on MSNBC’s Morning Joe: ‘Challenge me at the convention!’

www.theguardian.com

"I’m here for two reasons, pal. One, to rebuild the economy for hard-working middle class people, to give everybody a shot. It’s a straight shot. Everybody gets a fair chance. Number two, people always talk about how I don’t have the wide support. Come on, give me a break. Come with me. Watch.”

Don't the working class get a look in, Joe?

 

[Humberto]

Well the implication is if you are 'god forbid' working class you don't deserve to be middle class like honest people.

 

[imposs1904]

Probably. Some lines that seemed like fumbled autocue prompts. But relatively good at it if so; looking around, talking to people in the audience etc. I'm not actually convinced, I think the thing I'm really getting at is that it was convincing enough and that's a bit of an issue if you want to replace him before the next debate, which isn't until Sept 10.

Although he has now claimed to be the first black woman to serve with a black president, so it's not all looking good.

Joe Biden accidentally says he is the 'first Black woman' to serve in White House – audio

During the interview Biden also defended his competency following his poor debate performance last week

www.theguardian.com

Didn't someone back in the day make the claim that Bill Clinton was the first black President?

It's easy to make such mistakes in the circumstances.