James Purnell Resigns: Wants Brown to Go

[Paulie Tandoori]

Why is it more likely now?

Any one coming in is going to be junior and just waiting for death surely?

Because the fundamental notion of spreading public wealth, however that may be defined, has been completely discredited as a plausible strategy, whereas "little state/little government" aka extreme robbery and violence will become the more likely winner of current political shenanigans.

imvho.

 

[YouSir]

What very, very long odds could I get in the post New Labour Party being Socialist in any way whatsoever?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Eh? 100,000 civil servants cunt in the past few years. 30,000 in the DWP, Purnell wanted to cut more. Are we supposed-as you clearly imply-that we should stick with the man who has presided over a calculated butchery of DWP services, who wants to hammer the poor even more than ANY previous Tory SoS? Your argument is the same as saying vote Labour to stop the Tories. Purnell has gone further than any Tory in his attacks on DWP staff and the poor. Being pleased that this shite has gone does not imply support for more attacks on our jobs, services and the poor, it's simply 'relief' at the 'temporary'? departure of a nasty anti-working class scumbag, no more no less.

It wasn't him who made the decision, and some other faceless cunt will be bought in to replace him much more quietly and insidiously probably.

 

[butchersapron]

Because the fundamental notion of spreading public wealth, however that may be defined, has been completely discredited as a plausible strategy, whereas "little state/little government" aka extreme robbery and violence will become the more likely winner of current political shenanigans.

imvho.

yeah, but why will the new SOS be more extreme immediately than purnell rather than, as normal, the changing of office involving a slowing down period?

 

[Fedayn]

It wasn't him who made the decision, and some other faceless cunt will be bought in to replace him much more quietly and insidiously probably.

Actually, Purnell DID drive many of the decisions as a result of the freud report. The cuts 'announced' by Brown were enthusiastically supported and furthered by Purnell. Purnell was a driving force behind the attacks on claimants in the DWP not any other faceless bureaucrat. Purnell was right-behind and the instigator of many of the cuts in services, openly cheering on the clousres of job centres and benefit offices.

 

[butchersapron]

lulz

I feel like scum just for reading that. What must these poor people feel like all the time?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

yeah, but why will the new SOS be more extreme immediately than purnell rather than, as normal, the changing of office involving a slowing down period?

because the economic defecit is so enormous and stulifying that unless serious (and short-term) plans to reduce spending are implemented, then the whole thing is down the shitter imo. social security is the single biggest spend of public taxation and expenditure, so incremental percentage squeezes are always very maginified.

whether that is benefit levels, staffing levels, or more intuitive things like service levels or relationships for eg.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Actually, Purnell DID drive many of the decisions as a result of the freud report. The cuts 'announced' by Brown were enthusiastically supported and furthered by Purnell. Purnell was a driving force behind the attacks on claimants in the DWP not any other faceless bureaucrat. Purnell was right-behind and the instigator of many of the cuts in services, openly cheering on the clousres of job centres and benefit offices.

he might have supported them but there were civil servants (and more importantly consultants) who pushed them much harder. believe...

 

[butchersapron]

because the economic defecit is so enormous and stulifying that unless serious (and short-term) plans to reduce spending are implemented, then the whole thing is down the shitter imo. social security is the single biggest spend of public taxation and expenditure, so incremental percentage squeezes are always very maginified.

whether that is benefit levels, staffing levels, or more intuitive things like service levels or relationships for eg.

No, sorry, you still haven't said why. I might agree if you do.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

because the economic defecit is so enormous and stulifying that unless serious (and short-term) plans to reduce spending are implemented, then the whole thing is down the shitter imo. social security is the single biggest spend of public taxation and expenditure, so incremental percentage squeezes are always very maginified.

whether that is benefit levels, staffing levels, or more intuitive things like service levels or relationships for eg.

It's not going to stop the process certainly, but it will distract it for a little bit.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Dear Gordon,

We both love the sound of our own policies. I have worked to destroy the Labour Party for 20 years and you for far longer. We know we owe it nothing and it owes us everything.

I owe it to myself to say what I believe no matter how obviously self serving and rat-off-a-sinking-ship-like it may be. I now believe your continued leadership makes a Conservative victory more, not less likely.

That would be disastrous for our country. This moment calls for stronger police and secret state powers, an active state crack down on the unemployed and disabled, better privitised public services and an open cleptocracy. It calls for a government that measures itself by how filthy rich the oligarchs get. Those are our values, and David Cameron's.

We therefore owe it to our country to give it a real choice between two strands of neo liberalism. We need to show that we are prepared to fight to be a incredible government and have the weaselness to offer the same old neoliberal dead ends.

I am therefore calling on you to stand aside to give our Party a fighting chance of winning. As such I am resigning from government.

The Party was here long before us, and we want it to be here long after we have gone a bit like the way Lenin's corpse was preserved by Stalin for example. We must do the right thing by our on careerist interests.

I am not seeking the leadership because I don't stand a chance. My actions are my own considered view, nothing more than naked self interest. If the consensus is that you should continue, then I will look like a right tit and will punch myself in the balls for the stategic cock up I've made. But I do believe that this question now needs to be put.

Thank you for giving me the privilege of serving my own self interest and neoliberal capitalism.

Yours,
James Purnell - crook, turncoat and all purpose arsehole.

 

[Fedayn]

he might have supported them but there were civil servants (and more importantly consultants) who pushed them much harder. believe...

I know I only work in the DWP so don't really know what's happening, but I've seen the stuff he's coming out with. He, not consultants, came out with the closures programme, that wasn't a consultants wet dream.

 

[Kaka Tim]

what about goody two shoes Hilary Benn as a dark horse?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

I know I only work in the DWP so don't really know what's happening, but I've seen the stuff he's coming out with. He, not consultants, came out with the closures programme, that wasn't a consultants wet dream.

blokes an utter cunt tbf. i understand why you're happy he's gone but if he was the start and finish then that would be it. unfortunately, i don't think he will be....

 

[butchersapron]

It all depends on what uni networks they have. Researchers should now be doing this.

 

[Fedayn]

blokes an utter cunt tbf. i understand why you're happy he's gone but if he was the start and finish then that would be it. unfortunately, i don't think he will be....

No-one said his going is the start and finish, that deosn't however negate his being a disastrous DWP minister and the Minister who has gone further than any Tory ever dared in attacking the poor.

 

[butchersapron]

Oo est Flint?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

No-one said his going is the start and finish, that deosn't however negate his being a disastrous DWP minister and the Minister who has gone further than any Tory ever dared in attacking the poor.

but its the civil servants who want to go further, that's what i'm saying. they are the only constant.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Dear Gordon



Yours,

James Purnell

.

 

[Fedayn]

but its the civil servants who want to go further, that's what i'm saying. they are the only constant.

Actually, not all of them do. It's not a simple case of Purnell bad Mandarins even worse. Ournell was simply more clever in his manouevres.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Why do people carry on being 'Blairites'? I mean, it's not like the messianic cunt is ever going to return to take an interest in their bitter, fucked up car crash careers, is it?

Yet the papers bang on about it all the time.

 

[butchersapron]

Hope alibi doesn't mind

ken livingstone's all over the bbc getting stuck into Purnell...

"we will not accept a coup by disaffected Blairite MP's"

must have anticipated this because he got himself into the BBC within the hour or maybe he lives nearby

 

[butchersapron]

Why do people carry on being 'Blairites'? I mean, it's not like the messianic cunt is ever going to return to take an interest in their bitter, fucked up car crash careers, is it?

Yet the papers bang on about it all the time.

Because he wasn't a loner, he was part of a network. Come on.

 

[Badger Kitten]

A network without a leader in a smoking ruin of a party led by someone who is not one of their network. Humm.

 

[butchersapron]

A network without a leader in a smoking ruin of a party led by someone who is not one of their network. Humm.

Well you've just undermined the hitler/bunker network with that - but yes - A networK that is real. This is why people keep referring to it. They're not joking.

 

[perplexis]

Fucking hell. I leave the UK for just six weeks and the government finally goes tits up and the wanker politicos get some form of comeuppance. I am going to have to do this more often!

 

[Wolveryeti]

Fuck's sakes. They're not allowed to all go at once. That just defeats the whole point.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Why would any ambitious politician stay in a network that was

a) vapidly idea-free even when it had a leader and was generally held to be the definition of 'standing for nothing apart from salesmanship
'b) currently leaderless
c) publicly unpopular if considered at all by anyone and largely considered irrelevant

when

a) what foul-smelling miasma of ebbing-away power which was left clung round their howlingly unpopular leader like a fetid fart
b) the leader is far away and clearly gives not one single flying shit about people who used to lick his arse for promotions
c) Hitler at least hung around




Can't be for idealism's sake; they don't have any.

 

[butchersapron]

Because there's no better offers.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

i'm voting tesco