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I was under the impression that Bowlby's original theory (vital for child to develop attachment to mother, otherwise child will turn into psycho) had been admitted to be incorrect by Bowlby himself, who amended it to emphasis the importance of a child developing an attachment to a primary caregiver (who may or may not be the mother and can indeed be a figure such as a childminder.) Happy to be corrected if that is not the case.

That is correct, that it's about attachment to a primary caregiver. What you wrote yesterday led me to believe you thought attachment theory had been completely discredited.
 
DAN BLOCKS DOWNING STREET

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Mike Higgins
(for the Disabled People's Direct Action Network)
 
You can imagine can't you..
"There's a beast in this cell lets do him!"
"Aye but Purnell's in the next one, i want to do HIM again!"
 
Cmon, Angel, they did broadcast a protest in 1997 by Dan, but this is now 2008 and the Blair/Brown Broadcasting Company. No, It is unlikely
 
Where i live there are lots of 'yummy mummys' - ie young mothers of kids in infant school/nursery. They aren't working and (afaik) aren't single parents. Does this mean they will receive the same attention as their single comrades? I can't imagine many of these people being too happy about it? Obviously not if they are subsidised by a working partner - but if the economy is so important, Mr Purnell, why not lavish these clearly lazy itinerants with the same attentions?
 
That is correct, that it's about attachment to a primary caregiver. What you wrote yesterday led me to believe you thought attachment theory had been completely discredited.

Yes, looking back over my original post it does imply that, so cheers for the clarification. Was writing a rather hurried knee-jerk reaction to impludo's post...
 
DAN blocks Whitehall against Welfare Reform Act

Icon_article Published: Thursday 04 December 2008 11:31 by Uk Disabled People's Direct Action Network

Tagged as: campaigns repression_surveillance

On Wednesday 3rd December, the International Day of Disabled People 2008, activists from the UK Disabled People's Direct Action Network (DAN) and London Coalition Against Poverty (LCAP) blocked traffic both ways on Whitehall, directly outside Downing Street, for over 45 minutes in protest against the new Welfare Reform Act, which replaces Incapacity Benefit with a much more punitive "Employment Support Allowance" and forces disabled people into "workfare" schemes which are effectively free labour for corporations.

Places: whitehall

About 15 disabled activists from DAN, with a wide range of different impairments (including a homeless disabled person who we met in Trafalgar Square immediately before the action and who had never heard of DAN before, but who immediately joined and came with us!) and a similar number from LCAP marched down Whitehall from Trafalgar Square to Downing Street, carrying placards with slogans such as "Welfare Not Workfare", "Liberty Not Poverty", "Welfare Reform Not Welfare Destruction" and "New Labour Slave Labour". Once at Downing Street, DAN activists blocked Whitehall, first the northbound traffic and then both sides, and held the road for over 45 minutes despite the prompt arrival of the Metropolitan Police and disablist abuse from angry van drivers.

https://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/342

thirty on a weekday, not bad
 
heaven forfend that white van man should be inconvencienced by clearly selfish sick people. How right they are to resort to abuse! :mad:
 
Read the local paper today wherein it claims that local unemployment has increased by almost 50% since last October!

please DWP...Don't Waste People!
 
Did anyone watch this cunt on Andrew Marr this morning? what a horrible, smug little shit he is. I don't recall a time where i've sworn so much on a Sunday morning. He was actually making my skin crawl
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Awwwwww smoky, that's terrible.
I feel sick enough on mornings, either that, or I am gutted I woke.
If well-unfair workfare becomes compulsory, then so should voluntary euthanaesia for the despairing.
 
sorry boss I was late as i couldnt stop crying this morning and you wont let me go to the docs for some pills.
 
Did anyone watch this cunt on Andrew Marr this morning? what a horrible, smug little shit he is. I don't recall a time where i've sworn so much on a Sunday morning. He was actually making my skin crawl
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what's the bets big ears didn't challenge him much.
 
Its getting worse, the media is in full flow, conflating the Shannon matthews case with all people on benefits, but particulalry 'welfare mums' John Sopel on the Politics Show, has just gone on about all the people who 'never do a days work in their life, just claiming for ever, talk about generalising and being biased, the BBC now stinks

having said that, Ed Balls pointed out that 'one incident doesn't make all claimants like Shannon Matthews, you just can't extrapolate from one person.
 
I got a question please? genuine one. Its related to mental illness symptoms.
Paranoia is the name of the illness where an individual believes his pure imaginings of the worst, are real.
What is the name of the illness where an individual thinks real events are merely fears in his head, even though those around him are confirming his fears?
Thanks as I think I have this symptom. Its related to this subject.

thanks anyone who can give me a bit of insight
 
Having watched that interview he is suggesting that IB claimants must work with the DWP to formulate a plan to deal with their health; how on earth are the DWP in any position to dish out health advice and treatment?
 
by giving you a free nervous breakdown?
Nah, sorry, just trying to keep things light, as my depression has been playing up.

Still no one to shed any light on my symptom.

I have experienced paranoid psychosis, in the past, when young, where I imagined I was being watched/etc, but this is like the reverse.
I am still sorta convinced I am imagining this, and I am just being silly worrying, but hmmmm
*waits
 
he was on GMTV this morning. lovely chap. going on about getting people off benefits and back into work.

GMTV - "there's a recession on, there's no jobs to fill"
james purnell - "there's half a million jobs in this country that need filling"
GMTV - "we've been speaking to people who work in job centres, they say there aren't any jobs"
james purnell - "there's half a million jobs in this country that need filling"
...
GMTV - "how many people are there on these benefits then?"
james purnell - "2.6 million"

:hmm:
 
james there's an economic crises that's going to make the proles angry, what shall we do?

turn them against each other with bullshit about benefit cheats and work being the spiritual holy fucking grail gordy, they won't know whats hit em.
 
I think Purnell's ideas should at least be given a hearing and not dismissed in a knee jerk way. There is nothing wrong with contributing some labour in order to recieve a reward or a service.

On examining this scheme more closely it seems that people will be forced to work only as a last resort. So it doesn't seem to be as harsh as some people are saying. It also looks like there will be a whole load of loopholes for those who are not mad or ill enough to be on disability benefits but who are too ill or mad to be employed.

I think we have a missed opportunity here. The scheme could have been so much more effective and is a bit half baked. I do think that some of the money that has been wasted on banks could have gone to pay for a much needed return to National Service.
 
Meanwhile the gov't bails out the banks with millions of pounds of taxpayer's money, while they refuse to pass on interest rate cuts and credit is refused. Also, many companies and their executives don't pay tax in this country...and people bitch and moan about those on benefits. :rolleyes:

People on benefit are a soft target and trust Zachor to line up to take a pot-shot at them.
 
Meanwhile the gov't bails out the banks with millions of pounds of taxpayer's money, while they refuse to pass on interest rate cuts and credit is refused. Also, many companies and their executives don't pay tax in this country...and people bitch and moan about those on benefits. :rolleyes:

People on benefit are a soft target and trust Zachor to line up to take a pot-shot at them.

I'm not taking a pot shot at benefit claimants just saying hang on maybe these new rules are not as bad as they seem. Nothing wrong with people working for something though. Major missed opportunity to re create National Service though.
 
I'm not taking a pot shot at benefit claimants just saying hang on maybe these new rules are not as bad as they seem. Nothing wrong with people working for something though. Major missed opportunity to re create National Service though.

People who are seriously ill and suicide risks are already having their money stopped, this was under the OLD system. The new system is even harsher. Put The Sun down and speak to some people on benefits.
 
I'm not taking a pot shot at benefit claimants just saying hang on maybe these new rules are not as bad as they seem. Nothing wrong with people working for something though. Major missed opportunity to re create National Service though.

Okay, that's your explanation but you still regard the unemployed as a soft target, hence your frequent excoriations of them.

But you have nothing to say about the real cheats: those businessmen who evade paying tax in this country and the banks who benefit greatly from state handouts, for example.
 
Okay, that's your explanation but you still regard the unemployed as a soft target, hence your frequent excoriations of them.

But you have nothing to say about the real cheats: those businessmen who evade paying tax in this country and the banks who benefit greatly from state handouts, for example.

The reason I have a go at the unemployed is I believe that idleness is a destructive thing.

I certainly have had a pop at tax evaders.
 
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