Is it fractionMan's fault?

[bonathanjishop]

just about every person who's interacted with you on this forum (...) thinks you're (...) quite possibly a liar.

With a resume as long and accomplished as mine I have no need to lie - maybe you just can't handle the truth?

 

[fogbat]

If you're genuinely concerned about Shib issues for researchers in Wales, and not just a bit confused, and engaged in pointscoring, do let me know.

 

[weepiper]

it's ramjamclub!!

 

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With a resume as long and accomplished as mine I have no need to lie - maybe you just can't handle the truth?

oh, another one with a direct line in 'truth-tm'

 

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it's ramjamclub!!

 

[fogbat]

it's ramjamclub!!

Read his previous thread. Comedy gold.

 

[editor]

With a resume as long and accomplished as mine I have no need to lie - maybe you just can't handle the truth?

With your ongoing failure to produce a scrap of supporting evidence, I'm certainly having trouble accepting your claim that you were "recognised as a Top 10 UK Innovator by the New Statesman." What year was this? And why can't a self proclaimed internet expert like you find a single link?

 

[bonathanjishop]

If you're genuinely concerned about Shib issues for researchers in Wales, and not just a bit confused, and engaged in pointscoring, do let me know.

Actually, I was hoping fractionMan would respond, as on another thread he said that part of his job was implimenting Shib networks. Of course, I wanted to use the difficulty other researchers and I have experienced to tease him about his claimed expertise, but I did actually want to know what the recent problems were caused by, and would expect him to know.

 

[editor]

Actually, I was hoping fractionMan would respond, as on another thread he said that part of his job was implimenting Shib networks. Of course, I wanted to use the difficulty other researchers and I have experienced to tease him about his claimed expertise, but I did actually want to know what the recent problems were caused by, and would expect him to know.

I would have thought a self proclaimed internet expert like you would have realised that a PM would be the most effective way to conduct a private conversation with an individual poster and that 'call out' threads are against the rules here.

 

[tar1984]

I don't claim to be an expert in identity management as fractionMan claims to be, but I do claim to be in online communities and e-learning, and I think you should accept that, as those in the know do.

If you were an expert in online communities you wouldn't be posting this shit, it makes you look really bad. You managed to turn a whole online community against you in less than 50 posts ffs.

It's funny though, so please, continue.

 

[bonathanjishop]

I would have thought a self proclaimed internet expert like you would have realised that a PM would be the most effective way to conduct a private conversation with an individual poster and that 'call out' threads are against the rules here.

Well I apologise for breaking the rules. I'll have to send you my working paper on 'sysop prerogative', which I wrote as a result of the extensive discussion on the other thread.

I'd rather see a link to the New Statesman's site where you're being honoured as a ''Top 10 UK Innovator. Why is an internet expert like you finding it so difficult to source this link?

Oh, by the way. Did I ever tell you I wrote for the New Statesman and was also a judge on one of their awards panels?

If you look at this link:
http://www.newstatesman.com/nma/nma2004/nma2004shortlist.htm
You'll see my invention is in the Top 10 of the Innovation category

 

[editor]

Well I apologise for breaking the rules. I'll have to send you my working paper on 'sysop prerogative', which I wrote as a result of the extensive discussion on the other thread.

I'd rather see a link to the New Statesman's site where you're being honoured as a ''Top 10 UK Innovator. Why is an internet expert like you finding it so difficult to source this link?

Oh, by the way. Did I ever tell you I wrote for the New Statesman and was also a judge on one of their awards panels?

 

[bonathanjishop]

You managed to turn a whole online community against you in less than 50 posts ffs.

That's because I'm a 'Big Man', which the 'Snerts' like to bait and flame. You can read about it in this book:
http://www.igi-global.com/bookstore/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleId=909&DetailsType=Chapters

 

[ddraig]

Well I apologise for breaking the rules. I'll have to send you my working paper on 'sysop prerogative', which I wrote as a result of the extensive discussion on the other thread.

link us all up with your 'sysop prerogative' whatever that is that you can't spell!
loon

 

[editor]

That's because I'm a 'Big Man', which the 'Snerts' like to bait and flame.

Sorry, but compared to some contributors here, you're nothing but inconsequential small fry and no amount of randomly spewed links will alter that fact.

The reaction to you here has been entirely based on your words and your conduct, and has nothing to do with your supposed "achievements."

 

[bonathanjishop]

link us all up with your 'sysop prerogative' whatever that is that you can't spell!
loon

It is spelled perfectly correctly. Sysop prerogative is all the powers a systems operator of an online community has which hasn't been taken away from them by law or given away by them by contract. They can delegate this to administators or moderators, as in the case of this community, or give it to the members, as Cliff Figallo did with The WELL.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I would have thought a self proclaimed internet expert like you would have realised that a PM would be the most effective way to conduct a private conversation with an individual poster and that 'call out' threads are against the rules here.

One might almost conclude that he knows nothing about the operation of internet (or other) communities at all.

But wait - what if it's all a cunning plan to generate a profile of "what not to do if you don't want to look like an arse on google"?

 

[tar1984]

That's because I'm a 'Big Man', which the 'Snerts' like to bait and flame. You can read about it in this book:
http://www.igi-global.com/bookstore/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleId=909&DetailsType=Chapters

Er...am I mistaken or does that book cost almost 2,000 dollars? Wat?

Anyway, you're not a 'big man' and it's foolish to perceive yourself that way. This is an internet forum, it's an even playing field and we are judged on what we contribute, not our qualifications. Your 'achievements' mean nothing to me, the fact you keep banging on about them is what irks.

 

[tar1984]

I'll have to send you my working paper on 'sysop prerogative', which I wrote as a result of the extensive discussion on the other thread.

Is it about how banning you would breach your fundamental human rights?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Well I apologise for breaking the rules. I'll have to send you my working paper on 'sysop prerogative', which I wrote as a result of the extensive discussion on the other thread.

If you look at this link:
http://www.newstatesman.com/nma/nma2004/nma2004shortlist.htm
You'll see my invention is in the Top 10 of the Innovation category

 

[bonathanjishop]

Anyway, you're not a 'big man' and it's foolish to perceive yourself that way. This is an internet forum, it's an even playing field and we are judged on what we contribute, not our qualifications. Your 'achievements' mean nothing to me, the fact you keep banging on about them is what irks.

A Big Man is the person in an online community who unites the community through acting as a focal point for their anti-social desires. They will always try to assert their opinion and will wade into conflicts and resolve them by uniting those who were arguing against them. They try to use logic to counter others banter, when the conversation is more like banter than a dispute in need of resolution. They have one truth - theirs, and expect others to accept it, which they are often not willing to do. Typical things sysop Big Men do is to try and keep conversations on topic and enforce rules.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Fuck off back to 1997 and The Well, eh?

 

[bonathanjishop]

Is it about how banning you would breach your fundamental human rights?

Well the Human Rights Act extends sysop prerogative to give sysops the right to refuse anyone membership on any grounds except where otherwise illegal. An example where the state would be able to override the decision of a sysop to exclude someone would be if a F1 site in the UK supporting Lewis Hamilton excluded someone because they were Spanish and supported Alonso, for instance.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Well the Human Rights Act extends sysop prerogative to give sysops the right to refuse anyone membership on any grounds except where otherwise illegal. An example where the state would be able to override the decision of a sysop to exclude someone would be if a F1 site in the UK supporting Lewis Hamilton excluded someone because they were Spanish and supported Alonso, for instance.

 

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Er...am I mistaken or does that book cost almost 2,000 dollars? Wat?

Anyway, you're not a 'big man' and it's foolish to perceive yourself that way. This is an internet forum, it's an even playing field and we are judged on what we contribute, not our qualifications. Your 'achievements' mean nothing to me, the fact you keep banging on about them is what irks.

it is entirely possible there is nothing in the book relevant, looking at the title of the article, which seems to be on revenue generation through online communities, i would suspect this is the case. He tried putting up PPV journal links until he realised that some of us have athens accounts and can see he's taking arse. now, he is going for referencing books we can't get hold of.

 

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Well the Human Rights Act extends sysop prerogative to give sysops the right to refuse anyone membership on any grounds except where otherwise illegal. An example where the state would be able to override the decision of a sysop to exclude someone would be if a F1 site in the UK supporting Lewis Hamilton excluded someone because they were Spanish and supported Alonso, for instance.

does the human rights act specifically mention sysops?

if it does not, perhaps you would care to reference a case where sysop privalages in an online community have been chalenged under the human rights act.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Read his previous thread. Comedy gold.

Thread of the year so far.

 

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A Big Man is the person in an online community who unites the community through acting as a focal point for their anti-social desires. They will always try to assert their opinion and will wade into conflicts and resolve them by uniting those who were arguing against them. They try to use logic to counter others banter, when the conversation is more like banter than a dispute in need of resolution. They have one truth - theirs, and expect others to accept it, which they are often not willing to do. Typical things sysop Big Men do is to try and keep conversations on topic and enforce rules.

do big men post irrelevent links?

 

[DotCommunist]

I like this one, can he stay?

He may provide epic beef.

 

[bonathanjishop]

it is entirely possible there is nothing in the book relevant, looking at the title of the article, which seems to be on revenue generation through online communities, i would suspect this is the case. He tried putting up PPV journal links until he realised that some of us have athens accounts and can see he's taking arse. now, he is going for referencing books we can't get hold of.

You can read the chapter here without buying the book:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7710237/B...-Relationships-through-Avatars-and-Characters