This is right by my office! roads closed all around the A48 St Mellons - Traffic accident - people have died
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Yossarian
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A friend of the man who died and his father say the chopper searched the area after they spotted the tyre marks,
Matthew Pace, 45, and his son Lewis, 26, told Sky News that they found the car in a wooded area along the A48 in the early hours of Monday morning. Matthew said that police arrived "about a minute" after he and Lewis had pulled up by the side of the road after noticing "tyre marks" near the wooded area.
"I pulled up, I was in the field, in the woods and then she [a police officer] pulled up behind me," he said.
"She was asking why I was there, and I said: 'There's all tyre marks here' and then her colleague came out, looked at the tyre marks and they got the helicopter to search in this bush and that's when it was confirmed it was there."
news.sky.com
Matthew Pace, 45, and his son Lewis, 26, told Sky News that they found the car in a wooded area along the A48 in the early hours of Monday morning. Matthew said that police arrived "about a minute" after he and Lewis had pulled up by the side of the road after noticing "tyre marks" near the wooded area.
"I pulled up, I was in the field, in the woods and then she [a police officer] pulled up behind me," he said.
"She was asking why I was there, and I said: 'There's all tyre marks here' and then her colleague came out, looked at the tyre marks and they got the helicopter to search in this bush and that's when it was confirmed it was there."
Cardiff crash: Man who found car was best friends with one of the victims
Three people have died and two remain in a critical condition after the collision on the A48 in the St Mellons area of Cardiff.
Ranbay
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A friend of the man who died and his father say the chopper searched the area after they spotted the tyre marks,
Matthew Pace, 45, and his son Lewis, 26, told Sky News that they found the car in a wooded area along the A48 in the early hours of Monday morning. Matthew said that police arrived "about a minute" after he and Lewis had pulled up by the side of the road after noticing "tyre marks" near the wooded area.
"I pulled up, I was in the field, in the woods and then she [a police officer] pulled up behind me," he said.
"She was asking why I was there, and I said: 'There's all tyre marks here' and then her colleague came out, looked at the tyre marks and they got the helicopter to search in this bush and that's when it was confirmed it was there."
Cardiff crash: Man who found car was best friends with one of the victims
Three people have died and two remain in a critical condition after the collision on the A48 in the St Mellons area of Cardiff.
which conflicts with whats posted above.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Pedantically, again, it doesn't. The friend saw the tracks, went looking and was then interrupted by the coppers. Who called the helicopter which 'confirmed it was there'. So it does all fit together, the police timeline just misses why the chopper was specifically there.
Tho it does seem a bit weird that they got a chopper to look 'in the bush' rather than letting the copper who was already there do it. But hey ho.
Ranbay
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
freak in the sense of disappearing into the trees and not being noticed ...
Fair enough. I was thinking freak as in a tree falls on your motor when you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
When the truth comes out I think it’s going to be a bit embarrassing I think.guess we will be cleaning up balloons for the next few weeks , nice one, I’m sure no wildlife will come to harm either
At least they didn’t kick off with the filth
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
If they were all reported separately by their parents why would Plod assume they were connected? They can hardly be expected to know who is friends with whom.
The male survivor is the older of the pair, was he the driver? Considering how fast he must have been going to go plowing off into the woods I would imagine the thought that he had been drinking must be on Plod's mind by now even if it isn't considered respectful of the dead to say it at the moment.
Ranbay
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Ranbay
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Is this what happened? I would assume that if someone couldn’t contact their child the next step would be to contact their friends to see if they knew their whereabouts and a picture of 3 being missing being established. Anyway, that’s how the press were reporting it before plod had even got their boots on.
Ranbay
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I suppose the prospect of there being more survivors had they been found sooner could prove embarrassing if it turns out to be the case.
Ranbay
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Crashed about 2am ish they think.
first one reported missing 7:34pm (That's a good 17/18 hours stuck in the car before the police even knew one was missing)
The fact none could reach a mobile phone from possibly 5 phones and call 999 or anyone else.
I think it's fair to say with how far into the tree line and the speed it would take to get you there, it's possibly most died on impact.
Unless the driver and front passenger ended up going through the windscreen and the survivors aren’t well enough to give statements.
Ranbay
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The one male who survied gave a statement saying he was sorry.... so he's talking and the obvs know who was driving. just strange they wont confrim.
Maybe feelings are running too high to create a shitstorm for the bereaved. Dunno. Does seem odd.
Ranbay
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I think i would rather have died than know the fathers of the girls where looking for me......
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Potentially there may be charges pending?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
this is far and away the most likely explanation
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Reports that laughing gas and alcohol had been consumed by those in the car and that they were intoxicated.
This information comes from court papers relating to someone who was dropped off prior to the accident, who it seems was driving the vehicle for a period of time uninsured, and without a licence.
This information comes from court papers relating to someone who was dropped off prior to the accident, who it seems was driving the vehicle for a period of time uninsured, and without a licence.
St Mellons crash victims on laughing gas, court papers reveal
One of the occupants who was dropped off prior to the crash was charged with driving offences.
www.bbc.co.uk
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Yes, seems to be the case. The report above calls the 2 survivors 'passengers'.
editor
hiraethified
This makes for grim reading
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Cardiff: Occupants of car in crash which killed three had been 'drinking and inhaling nitrous oxide'
Three people - Rafel Jeanne, 24, Darcy Ross, 21, and Eve Smith, 21 - died in the crash in the early hours of 4 March. Two others were injured but survived.
news.sky.com
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