Elon Musk - news and discussion

[BristolEcho]

Are there? I’ve never heard any singsongs at gigs about other bands’ fans

Heard of plenty of bands that have had people thrown piss at them at the festivals etc. There is plenty of tribalism in music.

 

[klang]

we used to beat up folkies when we were into country.

 

[spitfire]

I used to organise tear ups between deep house and tech house fans round the back of the end in the late 90s. Savage.

 

[teuchter]

There's all those people on here who refuse to drink brewdog beer, just because they don't like punk music.

 

[Santino]

There's all those people on here who refuse to drink brewdog beer, just because they don't like punk music.

Other way around for me.

 

[PTK]

Heard of plenty of bands that have had people thrown piss at them at the festivals etc. There is plenty of tribalism in music.

You have no choice about being a member of a tribe. These people choose which sort of music to follow.

 

[klang]

Other way around for me.

you refuse punk because you don't like brewdog?

 

[hitmouse]

New interview with Musk Senior just dropped. Spoiler, he's a dumb cunt too

When Musk senior compares Robinson to Mandela, does he think of being Mandela as being a good or a bad thing?

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I don't think it will be much longer before he had some kind of breakdown, I mean really?

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Also London's police chef... what cooking ocifer?

Couldn't this be classed as some kind of incitement to violence, ie some kind of criminal offence? Could they potentially refuse him a visa to visit the UK on the grounds of inciting violence against the chief of The Met?

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

The ‘mission’ in supporting various far-right outfits across Europe is the disintegration of the EU. Tech billionaires in particular don’t like the regulatory regime, the consumer-focused stuff like data protection, right to be forgotten, cookie regulation, anti-monopoly stuff, threatened clampdowns on tax avoidance/offshore finance and so on. So there is a lot of power and money aimed at this project.

In this they find common cause with the likes of Russia/China whose opposition is more geopolitical, hence the involvement of bot farms and so on, uniting against a common enemy rather than necessarily ideologically matched.

What they want is global capitalism without the soft consumer protections that bodies like the EU and US federal government offer. Think how bad RyanAir would behave with less regulation, that is the sort of world they are after.

Think how bad our food would be if we allowed all the processed shite that is currently sold in the US that is banned in the UK and Europe.

 

[PTK]

Musk can come out with the same sort of propaganda that Hitler came out with, and what does the UK government do?
Then, later this month, ministers will attend Holocaust Memorial Day events.

 

[Lotte]

High fructose corn syrup in everything. Ugh.

 

[gosub]

When Musk senior compares Robinson to Mandela, does he think of being Mandela as being a good or a bad thing?

Yaxley Lennon' various convictions make it impossible for him to stand for Parliament...HOWEVER. with a favourable wind, and a bit of luck...the role of British Ambassador to Mars is currently vacant

 

[hitmouse]

Yaxley Lennon' various convictions make it impossible for him to stand for Parliament...HOWEVER. with a favourable wind, and a bit of luck...the role of British Ambassador to Mars is currently vacant

You sure about that one? I think anyone currently serving a sentence of over a year is barred, but I don't think past convictions are any barrier. (And I don't think they should be, fwiw.)

 

[Everything Goes]

You sure about that one? I think anyone currently serving a sentence of over a year is barred, but I don't think past convictions are any barrier. (And I don't think they should be, fwiw.)

I'm not sure how long Tommy Robinson has been in jail, but 12 months in jail rules you out.


Prospective MPs can stand for election despite having a criminal record or appearing on the child-barred list or adult-barred list unless they have served a prison term over 12 months.

Parliament urged to begin mandatory DBS criminal record checks on new MPs and peers

Many local authorities already run DBS checks on elected officials but it's not standard practice in parliament.

news.sky.com

 

[gosub]

You sure about that one? I think anyone currently serving a sentence of over a year is barred, but I don't think past convictions are any barrier. (And I don't think they should be, fwiw.)

Looked it up ..you right. Still rather he represented us on Mars

 

[hitmouse]

I'm not sure how long Tommy Robinson has been in jail, but 12 months in jail rules you out.


Prospective MPs can stand for election despite having a criminal record or appearing on the child-barred list or adult-barred list unless they have served a prison term over 12 months.

Parliament urged to begin mandatory DBS criminal record checks on new MPs and peers

Many local authorities already run DBS checks on elected officials but it's not standard practice in parliament.

news.sky.com

I think Sky News might have got it wrong there - unless I'm missing something, I'm pretty sure the law says that you can't serve as an MP while doing a prison term over 12 months, not if you have ever done a prison term of etc. Relevant law is here, unless anyone knows of something more recent:

Representation of the People Act 1981

An Act to disqualify certain persons for election to the House of Commons; to make changes in the timetable for parliamentary elections; and for connected purposes.

www.legislation.gov.uk

A person found guilty of one or more offences (whether before or after the passing of this Act and whether in the United Kingdom or elsewhere), and sentenced or ordered to be imprisoned or detained indefinitely or for more than one year, shall be disqualified for membership of the House of Commons while detained anywhere in the British Islands or the Republic of Ireland in pursuance of the sentence or order or while unlawfully at large at a time when he would otherwise be so detained.

 

[hitmouse]

Looked it up ..you right. Still rather he represented us on Mars

No argument on that point!

 

[gosub]

I think Sky News might have got it wrong there - unless I'm missing something, I'm pretty sure the law says that you can't serve as an MP while doing a prison term over 12 months, not if you have ever done a prison term of etc. Relevant law is here, unless anyone knows of something more recent:

Representation of the People Act 1981

An Act to disqualify certain persons for election to the House of Commons; to make changes in the timetable for parliamentary elections; and for connected purposes.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Concur

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Hey tim still think it’s an open question whether Musk is the ‘greatest visionary of our time’? How about updating this thread title?

Elon Musk launched into a foul-mouthed X tirade directed at a student who called him out for allegedly spreading disinformation.

“Elon Musk is rapidly becoming the largest spreader of disinformation in human history, hijacking political debates in the process,” wrote Joni Askola, a Finnish graduate student and activist for defense of Ukraine. “The EU must take action!”

“F u retard,” came Musk’s response, containing a slur used against people who have mental disabilities. He then replied saying “yes” to another person who said: “We could have avoided a lot of disasters by simply telling leftist retards to stfu.”

Elon Musk Cusses Out Student Who Called Him a Fake News Machine

Elon Musk launched into a foul-mouthed X tirade directed at a student who called him out for allegedly spreading disinformation. “Elon Musk is rapidly becoming the largest spreader of disinformation in human history, hijacking political debates in the process,” wrote Joni Askola, a Finnish...

www.yahoo.com

 

[HeAthen]

I think Sky News might have got it wrong there - unless I'm missing something, I'm pretty sure the law says that you can't serve as an MP while doing a prison term over 12 months, not if you have ever done a prison term of etc. Relevant law is here, unless anyone knows of something more recent:

Representation of the People Act 1981

An Act to disqualify certain persons for election to the House of Commons; to make changes in the timetable for parliamentary elections; and for connected purposes.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Yes, it's definitely while they are in prison on a sentence of 12 months or more that they are barred. Once they have served the sentence they are free to stand.

 

[two sheds]

Hey tim still think it’s an open question whether Musk is the ‘greatest visionary of our time’? How about updating this thread title?

Elon Musk Cusses Out Student Who Called Him a Fake News Machine

Elon Musk launched into a foul-mouthed X tirade directed at a student who called him out for allegedly spreading disinformation. “Elon Musk is rapidly becoming the largest spreader of disinformation in human history, hijacking political debates in the process,” wrote Joni Askola, a Finnish...

www.yahoo.com

I agree on this - the title could be more balanced/accurate with something like "Is Elon Musk the greatest snake oil salesman of our age or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?"

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I agree on this - the title could be more balanced/accurate with something like "Is Elon Musk the greatest snake oil salesman of our age or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?"

I appreciate that less was known about Musk when the thread started and he hadn’t descended into the KKK hole yet, but now we need a thread title that unequivocally calls him a wanker.

 

[tim]

Yaxley Lennon' various convictions make it impossible for him to stand for Parliament...HOWEVER. with a favourable wind, and a bit of luck...the role of British Ambassador to Mars is currently vacant

Elon Musk, on the other hand, as a Commonwealth citizen, twice over, could stand for Parliament buy Reform from Fag-Ash and become the first Reform Prime Minister.

 

[floyd99]

Yes, it's definitely while they are in prison on a sentence of 12 months or more that they are barred. Once they have served the sentence they are free to stand.

Indeed. This rule was rushed into law in 1981 in response to IRA prisoner Bobby Sands being elected as MP (shortly before his death on hunger strike).

The Tories cottoned on that loads of other IRA prisoners were being lined up to stand in upcoming by-elections in the North of Ireland, thus quickly changed the rules.

Rather than flat out banning serving prisoners from standing, the 12 month sentence rule meant white collar fraudsters on lesser sentences (ie potential Tory candidates) wouldn't be affected.

 

[HeAthen]

Indeed. This rule was rushed into law in 1981 in response to IRA prisoner Bobby Sands being elected as MP (shortly before his death on hunger strike).

The Tories cottoned on that loads of other IRA prisoners were being lined up to stand in upcoming by-elections in the North of Ireland, thus quickly changed the rules.

Rather than flat out banning serving prisoners from standing, the 12 month sentence rule meant white collar fraudsters on lesser sentences (ie potential Tory candidates) wouldn't be affected.

Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know the history of the rule.

 

[two sheds]

Indeed. This rule was rushed into law in 1981 in response to IRA prisoner Bobby Sands being elected as MP (shortly before his death on hunger strike).

The Tories cottoned on that loads of other IRA prisoners were being lined up to stand in upcoming by-elections in the North of Ireland, thus quickly changed the rules.

Rather than flat out banning serving prisoners from standing, the 12 month sentence rule meant white collar fraudsters on lesser sentences (ie potential Tory candidates) wouldn't be affected.

averaging 1.5 posts/year

 

[floyd99]

averaging 1.5 posts/year

And 1.3 of those are about Dulwich Hamlet. Quality not quantity innit.

 

[two sheds]

Yes me too. I always go for quality not quantity too

 

[editor]