Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[Cloo]

I mean, let's face it, a lot of us think at heart that we could run the world better and if only everyone else thought like us. Fortunately (let's be honest), we are not the richest people in the world. But unfortunately you don't get to be the world's richest person without being a sociopath.

 

[danny la rouge]

I get that he loves attention but I can't get on board with him not having a personal political drive and just playing to a random gallery who happen to be edgelords. There's are other bigger galleries

Oh, he does have a personal political drive. I’m not arguing he has no views or goals. He clearly does.

I’m just saying that the chaos around him is one bin fire to the next. He has the resources to do plenty of damage with that. But it’s not a thought through scheme.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think it's partly he really believes that because he is the richest person in the world he is the smartest person in the world so he needs people in charge who understand that and defer to him. I think he's basically said he thinks that autistic high intelligence people ought to be in charge of everything because they know best.

Apparently it was his daughter transitioning that really sent him off the rails. I had heard he selected for boys when impregnating women (I won't call it fathering children) and wasn't sure it was true but have just now seen all his other 11 kids are male. So yes, he has been selecting boys because he thinks they are worth more than girls and because presumably he sees it as proof of his virility. So no wonder he was fuming when his daughter turned down the amazing privilege of being male

Fucking hell. I didn't know about his kids. That's seriously fucked up. So his child transitioning may have triggered him, but he's always been a class a cunt.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Just think what he could be doing with his life! Obviously he could use his enormous wealth in all manner of beneficial ways for others but if that's too much of a stretch he could just be chilling on his own tropical island, sipping cocktails, watching beautiful sunsets, hosting beach parties, hiking, scuba diving.

And yet.

Instead he stays up all night, high on Ket, hunched over his computer screen in his Texas compound trying to impress teenage Nazis on twitter.

 

[Lotte]

I think it's partly he really believes that because he is the richest person in the world he is the smartest person in the world so he needs people in charge who understand that and defer to him. I think he's basically said he thinks that autistic high intelligence people ought to be in charge of everything because they know best.

Apparently it was his daughter transitioning that really sent him off the rails. I had heard he selected for boys when impregnating women (I won't call it fathering children) and wasn't sure it was true but have just now seen all his other 11 kids are male. So yes, he has been selecting boys because he thinks they are worth more than girls and because presumably he sees it as proof of his virility. So no wonder he was fuming when his daughter turned down the amazing privilege of being male

Autistic high intelligence MEN, let's be realistic. I doubt he thinks autistic high intelligence women should be in charge of anything.

 

[BigMoaner]

Just think what he could be doing with his life! Obviously he could use his enormous wealth in all manner of beneficial ways for others but if that's too much of a stretch he could just be chilling on his own tropical island, sipping cocktails, watching beautiful sunsets, hosting beach parties, hiking, scuba diving.

And yet.

Instead he stays up all night, high on Ket, hunched over his computer screen in his Texas compound trying to impress teenage Nazis on twitter.

and also just think how likely any normal person would treat their privacy with that sort of wealth as really important. tho you might show up occasionally at the odd conference, etc.

in a way, maybe he really doesn't care about money. maybe it really is his chief concern, the centre of his being, is owning the libs and playing video games.

 

[moochedit]

Yeah, but the idea that he offered money to Farage then fell out with him as part of some diabolical scheme he’d thought through is bollocks. He’s a far right brat with his own social media platform throwing strops in real time.

Like when he called that submarine guy a pedo then had to hire lawyers to argue that was just South African bantz and not an accusation in his culture.

Yeah a lot of people make the mistake of thinking he's a steven hawking type genius so assume he must have a master plan.

 

[BigMoaner]

he was private at one point, everyone knew the name but there was little public about him. it all started to fall apart after that first Rogan apperance, IRC. Suddenly the internet became really important to him.

 

[tommers]

I had heard he selected for boys when impregnating women

What does that mean?

 

[Crispy]

Like trump - or the far right/conpsiricay world generally - I dont think he has any sort of coherent poltical narrative - just a collection of grudges and bigotries and resenments against those that are "against him" (interffeering govenments who want to clip his wings and make him pay tax, women, liberals and leftists - anyone who criticies or takes the piss out him) .

This feels true to me. Your typical far right Patriot all gunned up on their compound has far more ideological weight behind him. Musk really does seem to be the emotional adolescent he presents as.

Autistic high intelligence MEN, let's be realistic. I doubt he thinks autistic high intelligence women should be in charge of anything.

To be fair, a highly intelligent woman runs SpaceX for him, even the bonkers Starship stuff in Texas. Gwynne Shotwell has been COO since nearly the beginning. Maybe he was a different person in 2002.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

he was private at one point, everyone knew the name but there was little public about him. it all started to fall apart after that first Rogan apperance, IRC. Suddenly the internet became really important to him.

Have you seen Rogan fawning about how smart Musk is?
Which only confirms how dumb Rogan is.



Anyway, let’s see how much Musk pays for a new bladder in a couple of years.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What does that mean?

all his children were conceived using IVF. It is possible to select for sex when doing IVF. 12/12 boys strongly suggests that this is what he did.

A modern twist on the Bible story. He's the virgin father.

 

[tommers]

all his children were conceived using IVF. It is possible to select for sex when doing IVF. 12/12 boys strongly suggests that this is what he did.

A modern twist on the Bible story. He's the virgin father.

Ah OK. I didn't know that. Thanks.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Something that is very illegal here in the UK unless you have a very particular and serious sex-linked genetic disorder (which more often than not means you'll be selecting for girls).

I've never really paid him any atttention before now. Basically, he's always been a scumbag.

 

[Boo Radley75]

tomorrow going to be interesting at work .. have a reform voter and a south African who is a big Elon fan ..

ponder when to throw the grenade out tomorrow

I'm on a football forum with a loud contingent of populist far righters and couldn't resist throwing the grenade in. So far we've had someone accuse Farage of being too woke to the normal crap you get from these types when they can't answer a question - I get accused of being a paedo apologist.

 

[Lotte]

I hate that so much. Anyone who thinks Tommy Robinson isn't the second coming of Jesus is a paedo apologist and let's just ignore all the paedophiles on the far right. I avoid the political threads on Owlstalk for this reason - Sheffield Wednesday fans can be incredibly right-wing at times. Tbf it's not just us and there are worse fanbases. Liverpool seem to be one of the few teams who are an exception.

 

[hitmouse]

Autistic high intelligence MEN, let's be realistic. I doubt he thinks autistic high intelligence women should be in charge of anything.

Looking at the actual post, I'm not sure he's aware that autistic high intelligence women exist:

 

[Cloo]

And interesting that this illustrates a world view that people only think 'woke things' because they want social approval not because, you know, they believe in fundamental decency and treating others well.

 

[Ax^]

I'm on a football forum with a loud contingent of populist far righters and couldn't resist throwing the grenade in. So far we've had someone accuse Farage of being too woke to the normal crap you get from these types when they can't answer a question - I get accused of being a paedo apologist.

sound about on point for the right wing types

currently holding my tongue on the subject just for the right moment

 

[Lotte]

And interesting that this illustrates a world view that people only think 'woke things' because they want social approval not because, you know, they believe in fundamental decency and treating others well.

If I cared that much about social approval, I'd be a right-winger.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Kid_Eternity]

There's not enough popcorn in the world for this..!

 

[teqniq]

I don't think it will be much longer before he had some kind of breakdown, I mean really?



Also London's police chef... what cooking ocifer?

 

[PTK]

If the government of the UK had self-respect, it would give its backing to a defamation case against Musk, and also call in the US Ambassador and tell him that the UK cannot accept prospective members of the US Administration defaming members of UK government.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

If the government of the UK had self-respect

 

[moochedit]

If the government of the UK had self-respect, it would give its backing to a defamation case against Musk, and also call in the US Ambassador and tell him that the UK cannot accept prospective members of the US Administration defaming members of UK government.

Agreed. Bet they don't though.

 

[elbows]

may all these scum devour each other.

Some fucker somewhere should create a new crypto currency called popcorn, on the offchance that it will become very very popular if the time comes where Musk and Trump fall out and put all their energy into tearing lumps out of each other.

 

[krtek a houby]

Some fucker somewhere should create a new crypto currency called popcorn, on the offchance that it will become very very popular if the time comes where Musk and Trump fall out and put all their energy into tearing lumps out of each other.

Or maybe crysps

 

[Rebecca Riot]

I don't think it will be much longer before he had some kind of breakdown, I mean really?

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Also London's police chef... what cooking ocifer?

Musk's really starting to loose the plot now. If he wasn't the richest man in the world I reckon the men in white coats would be coming for him soon.

 

[Rompipalle]

Musk's really starting to loose the plot now. If he wasn't the richest man in the world I reckon the men in white coats would be coming for him soon.

Well, he clearly imagines that he ought to have power and influence to match his wealth. He's intoxicated by it. Frankly, I wouldn't trust him with anything.