Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?
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It’s depressing to realise how many racist right wing “commentators” have been dragged from relative obscurity to the mainstream culture wars by this cesspit of a social media platform. Like Douglas ‘I just hate brown people’ Murray.
Musk had to make people pay to use twitter - his acolytes - and become their spokesperson because he knew brands and big money would be completely alienated.
Musk had to make people pay to use twitter - his acolytes - and become their spokesperson because he knew brands and big money would be completely alienated.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
I always give the example of qanon annonymous podcast (excellent btw), a small niche left wing ish podcast, and how it racks in a cool £50k a month on patreon. That’s not to be sniffed at, esp with such small overheads. There’s big money to be made from grifting.
That's why Russell Brand's gone for the far right/fundie audience. As I said elsewhere, it's so tediously predictable how these people always go on the same podcasts with the same views, talking to the same people.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
And Tice retweeted it and commented favourably on it, I'm astounded, tbh, how he thinks this is a reasonable way to behave as grown up and an MP.
My aunt used to sit on employment tribunals. One I recall she said there was an email with an as offensive meme attached and going round the office. The worker who sent it ended up at this tribunal fighting to keep their job. So what about Tice? Slap on the wrist?
Cloo
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The scary thing is that millions of people don't understand that Musk has 0 insight into anything about the United Kingdom, just a set of prejudices about what he sees. Maybe he's clever about some things (though I'm not convinced), but he is utterly ignorant of what is going on or any political, social or historical context of the UK or the feelings of most of its citizens.
gosub
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That was sort of true of twitter pre Musk as well though...the whole world filtered through the values of California tech.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
TBH, I have doubts that he has a good grasp of South African history, given some of his views and background.
Yeah this is an important point.
What is most infuriating about Musk's interventions into the UK is just how confidently incorrect he is. Most of the things he has said have just been factually incorrect (like two tier policing) and he also seems to be projecting a US / South African racial politics that doesn't really apply to the UK in the same way. (E.g. his framing seems to be middle class whites versus semi-criminal dark skinned underclass, but it doesn't really work in UK when the people rioting were actually mostly part of a semi-criminal underclass, which in the UK isn't really racialised in the way he thinks it is - the bulk of immigration is skilled workers so race and class don't map here the way he assumes they do).
Cloo
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Well there's this whole idea in the rightwing US, and we've seen this from some of gsv's cousins there as well, that Muslims are like this major political force in the UK - I find it ironic and sad that so many Jewish people cling to this one - hello, where have we heard this before?!
If you ask them for proof they'll just go 'Uh... Sadiq Khan he's a Muslim extremist'
If you ask them for proof they'll just go 'Uh... Sadiq Khan he's a Muslim extremist'
Me too. A lot of Jews are very quick to forget that we were treated the same several decades ago. As for Khan being an extremist, as if. He doesn't even have a beard, he is the most mild-mannered Muslim guy ever (except maybe N'golo Kanté), but these people act like he's in fucking ISIS. They spout rubbish about people praying in the streets and women being forced to wear burqas in London even though it's very obviously not true.
There are Jews who team up with actual Nazis. I wish I was joking, but Bronze Age Zionists are a thing - they see Nazis as fellow fighters against wokeness, degeneracy and all that far right crap, and they're big into manliness. They're the kind of people who sneered at Jews who stayed behind in Germany and called them 'soap' and 'lampshades'. Naturally, Nazis hate them. Just because Islamophobes hate Muslims more than us does not make them our friends, and they're pro-Israel because they hate Muslims and not because they love Jews. Look at how Julie Burchill treats Jews who AREN'T pro-Israel, for instance.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Have we had this yet?
Pilita Clark in the FT:
Musk's outbursts may be afffecting Tesla sales. Consideration rates (ie 'thinking about buying') have been falling
www.ft.com
paywall busted
Pilita Clark in the FT:
Musk's outbursts may be afffecting Tesla sales. Consideration rates (ie 'thinking about buying') have been falling
Why I no longer crave a Tesla
Elon Musk’s antics are turning off the most obvious customers for his carsSubscribe to read
paywall busted
And Jews are the ones who get it in the neck. Never Christian Zionists.
8ball
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8ball
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They can secure their vote by signing up for military service and becoming a full Citizen.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
In Muskworld that probably means paying for a blue tick.
Does anyone else find it weird that "musk" is a "trump" supporter? Like a bonding over smelly surnames.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Cue class action lawsuit from Musk against democrat voters for alleged RICO boycott against Tesla… “This is war!!”Have we had this yet?
Pilita Clark in the FT:
Musk's outbursts may be afffecting Tesla sales. Consideration rates (ie 'thinking about buying') have been falling
Why I no longer crave a Tesla
Elon Musk’s antics are turning off the most obvious customers for his cars
Subscribe to read
paywall busted
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
By co-incidence, I was watching the 2015-ish episode of The Simpsons with his Muskiness guest starring. And wherein Lisa believes he has all the answers to the world's problems. I think that has to represent Peak Musk, and it's just been a little bit of a slide into pure insanity from there on... To think it was not even 10 years ago that even I thought, "Well he's a bit weird but his head seems to be going the right way..." Ah, the naivety.Have we had this yet?
Pilita Clark in the FT:
Musk's outbursts may be afffecting Tesla sales. Consideration rates (ie 'thinking about buying') have been falling
Why I no longer crave a Tesla
Elon Musk’s antics are turning off the most obvious customers for his cars
Subscribe to read
paywall busted
8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
Lord Camomile
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But that's not faaaaaaaaaiiiiiir
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
This is going almost exactly as I predicted, except I didn't think he'd be so instrumental in xhitter's demise, and I thought Tesla would be sufficiently firewalled from xhitter, and would only be brought down by its own shitness a couple of years later. But it seems Musk is far more capable than I gave him credit for, and I reckon he's only a matter of months away from pissing in bottles.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
I think that's just wishfull thinking, he is far from crazy
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I dunno, Tesla's stock price seems to bear no relation to its actual situation. I keep expecting it to be Emperor's New Clothes when things like falling sales figures, rivals emerging, or just the plain old "these wild tech promises aren't happening" bit comes to a head, but it seems to be able to survive on pure speculation.
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