Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[Yossarian]

what sort of dude are you to literally cut off all ties with your own daughter? my daughter could slaughter a small european country and i would still be there for her.

I guess parents of transgender children have two options to choose from - love and accept their child like normal, compassionate human beings do, or spend $22 billion to buy a social media platform they can push transphobic hate on, then work to get a man with an extreme anti-trans agenda elected president of the United States

 

[BigMoaner]

Had a weird day dream today. Maybe a trauma response? But it was a five aside team of trump (in goal) rogan, Vance, Tate and musk and my old team of lithe bobby dazzlers and hard nuts, would whipe the floor with them. All of them pathetic and appalling in their shorts. 18-0. We were playing them. They couldn’t run, they couldn’t hide. Maybe thre daydream was my way of seeking some sort of control. Anyways. Sorry. Carry on.

 

[edcraw]

you say that, but the % of people getting their news from Twitter is declining according to graphs shared on here.

Didn't mean it like that - more that spending $44bn yo suck up to Trump will probably end up being a good investment for him.

Though allowing Trump back onto Twitter & turning it into a right wing cesspit probably helped Trump somewhat as well.

 

[Yossarian]

what sort of dude are you to literally cut off all ties with your own daughter? my daughter could slaughter a small european country and i would still be there for her.

Elon Musk shows us exactly what sort of dude he is

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Now Musk has delivered the victory, will he be dumped? Is Musk so rich and powerful he will still be useful, or is he too rich and powerful to ignore now he wants his payback?

He’s already got it:

Shares of Tesla surged by 12% Wednesday morning, sending the company’s stock up while adding nearly $20 billion to Elon Musk’s fortune after Donald Trump was reelected as president, and lavished praise on the world’s wealthiest person.

Tesla Shares Jump And Elon Musk Becomes Nearly $20 Billion Richer With Trump Victory

Trump praised Elon Musk as a “super genius” for his support throughout his campaign.

www.forbes.com

 

[Yossarian]

Musk just sitting in on Trump's calls with world leaders now

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/musk-trump-zelensky-ukraine-call

 

[ska invita]

Had a weird day dream today. Maybe a trauma response? But it was a five aside team of trump (in goal) rogan, Vance, Tate and musk and my old team of lithe bobby dazzlers and hard nuts, would whipe the floor with them. All of them pathetic and appalling in their shorts. 18-0. We were playing them. They couldn’t run, they couldn’t hide. Maybe thre daydream was my way of seeking some sort of control. Anyways. Sorry. Carry on.

the glory dreams of a millwall fan

 

[brogdale]

Elon Musk shows us exactly what sort of dude he is

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Maybe I'm late to the party, but the more you learn about Musk the dodgier everything seems. From his Wiki entry:

Musk has at least 12 children, one of whom is deceased...In October 2024, The New York Times reported Musk bought a Texas compound for his children and the mothers of his children.

 

[Dogsauce]

Now Musk has delivered the victory, will he be dumped? Is Musk so rich and powerful he will still be useful, or is he too rich and powerful to ignore now he wants his payback?

I guess there’s always another world leader he’s been sucking up to on the sly that he can fall back on for a bit of power and influence…

 

[Dogsauce]

Didn't mean it like that - more that spending $44bn yo suck up to Trump will probably end up being a good investment for him.

Though allowing Trump back onto Twitter & turning it into a right wing cesspit probably helped Trump somewhat as well.

A lot of the finance came from Saudi. They’ll be getting their payback in the form of all the ‘green crap’ getting jettisoned.

Musk spent £100 million on his PAC to get Trump elected. Since the elections Tesla stock has gone up by double-digit percent adding a few billion to his personal wealth. A shrewd investment, at least for as long as the country stays not on fire.

 

[Rob Ray]

A moment of much needed levity if true

Elon Musk in a Trump administration? A top aide suddenly says no

The Tesla CEO's role working for Trump has apparently been downgraded to "writing software"

qz.com

 

[hitmouse]

decent write-up. quite a crazy evolution, when you step back.

Elon Musk Goes Full Conspiracist

But why?

www.persuasion.community

From that article:

From his avalanche of shitposting we know that Musk is deeply immersed in meme culture; when he took to the stage at a recent Trump rally, he began by declaring “I’m not just MAGA, I’m Dark MAGA”—something that just doesn’t make sense to anyone who isn’t terminally online.

I know it's a cliche, but:


(For those who've not encountered it before: "More of a meme than a political slogan, Dark MAGA is a post-alt-right aesthetic that promotes an authoritarian version of Trump in dystopian, Terminator-like images. In some, the Trump Tower is painted entirely in black and the former president is seen piercing through the screen with blue laser eyes... The aesthetics of the movement are easily recognizable: images edited in red and black or red and blue, featuring people with blue laser eyes often holding weapons or standing in front of neo-Nazi symbols.")

 

[BigMoaner]

A moment of much needed levity if true

Elon Musk in a Trump administration? A top aide suddenly says no

The Tesla CEO's role working for Trump has apparently been downgraded to "writing software"

qz.com

[QUOTE="hitmouse, post: 18802743, ...hose who've not encountered it before[/QUOTE]

: "More of a meme than a political slogan, Dark MAGA is a post-alt-right aesthetic that promotes an authoritarian version of Trump in dystopian, Terminator-like images. In some, the Trump Tower is painted entirely in black and the former president is seen piercing through the screen with blue laser eyes... The aesthetics of the movement are easily recognizable: images edited in red and black or red and blue, featuring people with blue laser eyes often holding weapons or standing in front of neo-Nazi symbols.")

Just a game. He truly is i believe larping. The man probably doesn't believe anything that deeply. Anything and everything to own the libs.

 

[ska invita]

A moment of much needed levity if true

Elon Musk in a Trump administration? A top aide suddenly says no

The Tesla CEO's role working for Trump has apparently been downgraded to "writing software"

qz.com

“Elon, because he’s not very busy, has agreed to head that task force,” Trump said at the New York Economic Club

 

[Elpenor]

Surely Trump won’t allow Musk into the tent as there’s only one person allowed to piss in the tent and that’s Trump himself

 

[BigMoaner]

He’s what you get where culture war meets hyper addictive tech meets someone who hasn’t figured out that that much social media is a bit sad an empowered little man who thinks all the cool kids are into meme warfare with vulnerable minorities. All the cool kids despise you Elon.

 

[hitmouse]

Just a game. He truly is i believe larping. The man probably doesn't believe anything that deeply. Anything and everything to own the libs.

Yeah, I'm just sometimes fascinated by the way that, of all the things you could possibly larp as, he seems to be endlessly stuck playing out a 13-year-old's idea of what's cool.

 

[BigMoaner]

Yeah, I'm just sometimes fascinated by the way that, of all the things you could possibly larp as, he seems to be endlessly stuck playing out a 13-year-old's idea of what's cool.

You’ve nailed it.

 

[Elpenor]

He’s what you get where culture war meets hyper addictive tech meets someone who hasn’t figured out that that much social media is a bit sad an empowered little man who thinks all the cool kids are into meme warfare with vulnerable minorities. All the cool kids despise you Elon.

His kids too apparently

 

[pug]

Rolling stone says he wants to "donate his sperm to friends and acquaintances"

 

[Yossarian]

 

[RubyToogood]

Suddenly this thread is terrifying rather than entertaining.

 

[brogdale]

Suddenly this thread is terrifying rather than entertaining.

I'm not sure it is that suddenly, tbh. I reckon post #6 in this thread nailed quite how terrifying the existence of billionaires is.

 

[Nylock]

He’s what you get where culture war meets hyper addictive tech meets someone who hasn’t figured out that that much social media is a bit sad an empowered little man who thinks all the cool kids are into meme warfare with vulnerable minorities. All the cool kids despise you Elon.

All of our "cool kids" (and some of his immediate ones) think he's a cunt, all of his "cool kids" think the sun shines out of his arse. Which group's opinion do you think he gives more of a rat's arse about?

 

[teqniq]

Delusions of grandeur:

Musk suggests support for replacing democracy with government of âhigh-status malesâ

The theory suggests that the only people able to think freely are âhigh [testostrone] alpha malesâ and âaneurotypical peopleâ

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Humberto]

Smacks of eugenism. Laughable though.

 

[agricola]

Delusions of grandeur:

Musk suggests support for replacing democracy with government of âhigh-status malesâ

The theory suggests that the only people able to think freely are âhigh [testostrone] alpha malesâ and âaneurotypical peopleâ

www.independent.co.uk

"now, how do I suggest I've read Plato's Republic without actually having read it"

 

[Nylock]

Delusions of grandeur:

Musk suggests support for replacing democracy with government of âhigh-status malesâ

The theory suggests that the only people able to think freely are âhigh [testostrone] alpha malesâ and âaneurotypical peopleâ

www.independent.co.uk

The best description I've seen of all that Alpha/Beta male nonsense is that "It's Astrology for incels".

 

[Orang Utan]

It’s based on a bogus comparison with wolves. Complete bullshit that a lot of folk seem to buy into to justify shitty behaviour and hierarchies

 

[Hollis]

Tesla shares are up 33% since the result... That's some payback (usual caveats).