Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[brogdale]

Made me chortle...

 

[hitmouse]

Sure it's been posted on this thread a few times already, but always funny to be reminded of what Trump was saying about Musk as recently as 2022:

 

[Yossarian]

Sure it's been posted on this thread a few times already, but always funny to be reminded of what Trump was saying about Musk as recently as 2022:
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Trump looks like he's just hired Musk as his robot butler

 

[tommers]

Marketers marketing marketing. Very meta.

I liked this from the wiki:

One critic, Mark Ritson, writing in Marketing Week in 2015, said he had previously suggested that "despite the power and prestige of big valuation firms Interbrand, Millward Brown and Brand Finance, there was a possibility that much of what they do was bollocks".

 

[two sheds]

Really their own fault for using a truck to shift stuff

Tesla Cybertruck Tailgates Are Warping Because Of Shifting Payloads

If you put too much weight on a Cybertruck's tailgate it'll start bending out of shape.

jalopnik.com

Tesla Cybertrucks are proving to be absolutely dogshit when it comes to doing truck stuff. Now, we’ve got another example of just that. A Cybertruck Owners Club forum user made a post at the end of last week detailing the damage his truck sustained by hauling something it was supposed to handle with ease.

User xhawk101 posted on the forum that he was hauling a load of 12-foot composite decking boards. Despite double-checking that the truck’s payload capacity wasn’t exceeded, the load apparently shifted and put too much weight on the tailgate. Now, that tailgate is warped. Luckily for him, it still shifts, but pictures on the forum show that stainless steel body panels don’t line up anymore. He added, “Perhaps I should have known, but alas I was unaware of the potential.” Buddy, it’s not your fault your shitty truck is falling apart around you.

 

[Boo Radley75]

Looks like he's getting sued, along with JK Rowling now over the slurs against Olympic gold medalist boxer, Imane Khalif

JK Rowling and Elon Musk named in Imane Khelif’s lawsuit over Olympics gender row

Rowling referred to the boxer as a ‘male’ and accused her of ‘enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Rob Ray]

Hope they all get taken to the fucking cleaners, bunch of pile-on ghouls.

 

[teqniq]

Good bit of analysis here:

 

[Rob Ray]

I hate that the news people have got "free speech absolutist" in their heads as a phrase for Musk. If too lazy to actually interrogate the line then at least tag it "self described" ffs.

 

[pbsmooth]

He is well on the way down the Fox/Glinner career/reputation/personal life self destruction chute now.

Unfortunately he’s obscenely rich and owns one of the main forms of online communication. So he really does seem to be able to do what he wants and get away with it nowadays.

 

[agricola]

I hate that the news people have got "free speech absolutist" in their heads as a phrase for Musk. If too lazy to actually interrogate the line then at least tag it "self described" ffs.

Exactly, though of course like all the other self-described free speech absolutists the free speech doesn't include things he doesnt like. Where his plane is / has been, for example.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Looks like he's getting sued, along with JK Rowling now over the slurs against Olympic gold medalist boxer, Imane Khalif

JK Rowling and Elon Musk named in Imane Khelif’s lawsuit over Olympics gender row

Rowling referred to the boxer as a ‘male’ and accused her of ‘enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head’

www.independent.co.uk

He got away with calling that diver a paedo, so he will probably lawer his way out of this too, sadly.

 

[BigMoaner]

Exactly, though of course like all the other self-described free speech absolutists the free speech doesn't include things he doesnt like. Where his plane is / has been, for example.

The most moving and beautiful example of this recently was Tommy Robinson screaming about the mail hunting him down and plastering his bolt hole all over the web.

 

[teqniq]

Hahaha:

Sligo man dismissed from Twitter/X after failing to respond to email from Musk awarded €550k

A Sligo man has won record damages for unfair dismissal against Elon Musk’s Dublin-based Twitter International UC.

www.sundayworld.com

 

[ska invita]

Lols

Elon Musk may have to sell billions in Tesla stock to rescue X

Plunging U.S. revenue at X risks opening up a "massive hole" on its balance sheet that Musk needs to plug to stave off its financial collapse.

fortune.com

 

[breadandcircuse]

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Use the words “Cisgender” or “Gammon” on this self described “free speech absolutist”’s platform and you get a note asking if you really want to use the words, and if you persist, a note saying that “the visibility of your post has been limited” whatever that means.

However, report ErnieHimmler88’s post saying all Jews, Muslims and trans people should be rounded up and put in camps with any of the left that his preferred regime has not exterminated and you get an email saying he hasn’t broken any of their rules…

 

[agricola]

Use the words “Cisgender” or “Gammon” on this self described “free speech absolutist”’s platform and you get a note asking if you really want to use the words, and if you persist, a note saying that “the visibility of your post has been limited” whatever that means.

However, report ErnieHimmler88’s post saying all Jews, Muslims and trans people should be rounded up and put in camps with any of the left that his preferred regime has not exterminated and you get an email saying he hasn’t broken any of their rules…

Pre-Musk Twitter used to do that though.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Pre-Musk Twitter used to do that though.

I think the addition of “Cisgender” to the naughty list is a more recent innovation based on Musk’s conspiracism-rich transphobia though.

And whilst pre-Musk Twitter moderation was often lenient on racists and sexists, it did used to generally boot or suspend open, violence-advocating neo-Nazis if people reported them - under Musk they appear to have a free pass.

 

[agricola]

I think the addition of “Cisgender” to the naughty list is a more recent innovation based on Musk’s conspiracism-rich transphobia though.

And whilst pre-Musk Twitter moderation was often lenient on racists and sexists, it did used to generally boot or suspend open, violence-advocating neo-Nazis if people reported them - under Musk they appear to have a free pass.

That wasn't my experience, even with blatant antisemites.

 

[Dystopiary]

Yeah, antisemitism was a problem before, then I noticed it getting worse just before he bought it; I think some people felt bolder because they knew he'd go easier on them. But now there are loads of overtly nazi accounts and reporting them makes no difference.

 

[tommers]

This has got to be bollocks.

 

[Saul Goodman]

This has got to be bollocks.

Of course it's bollocks. It'd fall apart before it got to the front line.

 

[Yossarian]

Maybe his troops are planning an infantry charge while Ukrainian forces are laughing too hard at the Cybertruck to fight

 

[Saul Goodman]

At least the driver would be safe behind the bulletproof glass...

 

[magneze]

This has got to be bollocks.

Apparently this might be a bit of a legal issue for Musk. Kadyrov being under US federal sanctions. Whoops!

 

[Rob Ray]

Twitter shuts down operations in Brazil - dangerous for Musk and co, inasmuch as doing so will mostly serve to showcase the it's entirely unnecessary to keep the bloody thing.

 

[magneze]

Twitter shuts down operations in Brazil - dangerous for Musk and co, inasmuch as doing so will mostly serve to showcase the it's entirely unnecessary to keep the bloody thing.

I think it's still available there, they're just sacking all the staff in Brazil and closing the office. Still, not a good look.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Of course it's bollocks. I'd fall apart before it got to the front line.

Well Russia is cosplaying as Nazi Germany so that fits

 

[nino_savatte]

If only. This was seen on Facebook.

Perhaps, if we started posting blatant misinformation about him, he might change his tune. Then again...