Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[BigMoaner]

why can't the FBI censor Phil

 

[gosub]

why in God's holy name would i want to speak to some random on twitter?

Most people aren't on urban

 

[Artaxerxes]

Most people aren't on urban

Sounds like a them problem

 

[belboid]

Matt fucking Taibbi? Fucking grifter who’d be lucky to get a column on Spiked over here.

 

[krtek a houby]

why can't the FBI censor Phil

That's a Netflix show, surely

 

[editor]

Are you doing this deliberately?

There could be files that say "the FBI got in touch and asked us to ban xxxxx and we said no".

Don't forget: Dwyer made the ludicrous assertion that "Twitter was basically run by the FBI," which would mean that thousands of their employees were complicit in this deception and yet - for some reason - have never spoken out about it - even after they'd been sacked by Musk.

It's fucking embarrassing to read such shit on this site.

 

[two sheds]

And that it's taken the combined resources of the FBI, CIA and other deep-state acronyms to find a single Trump crime.

Rather than just searching trump crimes at DuckDuckGo

 

[krtek a houby]

Don't forget: Dwyer made the ludicrous assertion that "Twitter was basically run by the FBI," which would mean that thousands of their employees were complicit in this deception and yet - for some reason - have never spoken out about it - even after they'd been sacked by Musk.

It's fucking embarrassing to read such shit on this site.

Like the good old days of jazzz.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Phil is easily the most successful troll in the history of urban. Kind of like an anti teuchter

 

[Rob Ray]

In fairness "success" implies he's doing it deliberately. Which if he is, fair play, he does an incredible impression of a complete idiot.

 

[editor]

Phil is easily the most successful troll in the history of urban. Kind of like an anti teuchter

FYI: A good troll doesn't make themselves look like a right cunt in the process.

 

[krtek a houby]

There are no "good" trolls

 

[Lurdan]

There are no "good" trolls

I beg to differ

 

[two sheds]

"Posting utter bollocks" could become a threadbannable offence

but that might reduce all our post counts considerably

 

[Rob Ray]

Urban without utter bollocks would be less interesting imv, because telling people why what they're saying is utter bollocks is a) a big driver for posting on Urban, much as people complain about it, b) often a good way of indirectly fostering explanations that other people can benefit from. I've got maybe three people on mute atm because I find them particularly unpleasant or counterproductive so I'm not an "anything goes" purist but it's a balance.

 

[two sheds]

Yes agree totally. There's "utter bollocks" and "utter bollocks" though.

 

[Rob Ray]

Can't argue with that.

 

[krtek a houby]

I beg to differ

Touche

 

[Storm Fox]

I beg to differ

Teuchter is bloody genius at trolling, they manage to wind up people up, while they themselves carry serenely on. That takes effort and skill.

I include myself in the group Teuchter winds up.

 

[NoXion]

There are no "good" trolls

Exactly. When did deliberately winding up other people become some kind of chortlesome activity to be tolerated with a knowing smile, instead of the anti-social bullying crap that it actually is? It's the kind of shit behaviour that gets short shrift offline, there's no good reason why it should be allowed online.

 

[NoXion]

Teuchter is bloody genius at trolling, they manage to wind up people up, while they themselves carry serenely on. That takes effort and skill.

Putting effort and skill into being a cunt still makes you a cunt.

 

[BigMoaner]

Yes agree totally. There's "utter bollocks" and "utter bollocks" though.

what a load of old bollocks.

 

[Storm Fox]

Putting effort and skill into being a cunt still makes you a cunt.

But Teuchter sticks to threads they start and draws people.
They are the exception that proves the rule. I'd agree with you on everyone else who trolls. Especially spamming across multiple sites and wrecking the conversation flow.

 

[Storm Fox]

teuchter if you are bothered by what I posted please let me know and I'll delete it. I don't want to come across as bullying at all, and I honestly don't mean it in a bullying way.

 

[NoXion]

But Teuchter sticks to threads they start and draws people.
They are the exception that proves the rule.

If teuchter or any other self-styled troll starts some daft thread in the general forum and everyone else dunks on their silly arse, then I'd say they're not really "trolling", but rather putting on a jester's outfit and dancing for us. But it does make it really hard, for me at least, to take any opinions from such posters seriously. How do I know whether they're being genuine or not? After all, being such a "sKiLlEd" troll, they could be saying anything just to get a reaction. Death by irony.

 

[NoXion]

Meanwhile, Musk is still delusional:

Elon Musk gives X employees one year to replace your bank

Musk wants your “entire financial life” on his platform.

www.theverge.com

Elon Musk wants X to be the center of your financial world, handling anything in your life that deals with money. He expects those features to launch by the end of 2024, he told X employees during an all hands call on Thursday, saying that people will be surprised with “just how powerful it is.”
“When I say payments, I actually mean someone’s entire financial life,” Musk said, according to audio of the meeting obtained by The Verge. “If it involves money. It’ll be on our platform. Money or securities or whatever. So, it’s not just like send $20 to my friend. I’m talking about, like, you won’t need a bank account.”

 

[two sheds]

You won't need a bank account because it'll all have been scammed away from you

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The Rational Proof of the Existence of God was the best wind up this site has ever had. It had people queuing up to take a swing and no one could connect, and no one got hurt anyway.

New Dwyer seems to have become a bog standard right wing WUM though unfortunately.

 

[NoXion]

The Rational Proof of the Existence of God was the best wind up this site has ever had. It had people queuing up to take a swing and no one could connect, and no one got hurt anyway.

I tried reading that thread a week or two ago after someone brought it up following Dwyer's return. By the time I got bored and closed the tab, people were still arguing about value and exchange (Like what the fuck has that got to do with god's existence?!). Did anyone ever manage to condense the argument into a concise format, or has it been forever forgotten as a drip-feed of irrelevant, evasive and tedious bullshit? Aren't wind-ups supposed to agitate the reader, not send them to sleep?

 

[PR1Berske]

The conflation of trolls with wums was the biggest error of early internet culture.