Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Eh, I thought "banknotes!" and got a bit carried away.
I have no idea whether you're joking or not, that's were this shit's at.
Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?
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Eh, I thought "banknotes!" and got a bit carried away.
I have no idea whether you're joking or not, that's were this shit's at.
PTK
Paul Kegan
It is a fact that all whole numbers are the products of prime numbers, which are like the "atoms" of numbers. Prime numbers, such as 5, are divisible only by themselves and 1.Eh, I thought "banknotes!" and got a bit carried away.
I have no idea whether you're joking or not, that's were this shit's at.
Raheem
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Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
PTK
Paul Kegan
No need to crawl under the carpet.I didn't take that in at all did I?!
You cannot escape the Deep State that easily.
You do realise Elon Musk isn't actually a rocket scientist? He doesn't have an engineering degree either. And he can't even run basic code.
Dogecoin cocreator calls Elon Musk a 'grifter' who had trouble running basic code
Musk "sells a vision in hopes that he can one day deliver what he's promising, but he doesn't know that," said Jackson Palmer.
www.businessinsider.com
He's an investor with a talent for self-promotion who owes his starting capital to his family who owned diamond mines in apartheid South Africa. I don't see why anyone considers him smart? We all know his views and they are superficial and poorly thought out. If he was an Urban75 poster you wouldn't consider him to be smart.
Yossarian
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Musk certainly seems smart at hiring rocket scientists, being the hype man for his electric car company, and doing whatever he did to make his millions with PayPal, but after those successes he's apparently Dunning-Krugered himself into thinking he's an expert on everything, including how to run a social media company
BigMoaner
We will all go together
That’s well worth a read.You do realise Elon Musk isn't actually a rocket scientist? He doesn't have an engineering degree either. And he can't even run basic code.
Dogecoin cocreator calls Elon Musk a 'grifter' who had trouble running basic code
Musk "sells a vision in hopes that he can one day deliver what he's promising, but he doesn't know that," said Jackson Palmer.
He's an investor with a talent for self-promotion who owes his starting capital to his family who owned diamond mines in apartheid South Africa. I don't see why anyone considers him smart? We all know his views and they are superficial and poorly thought out. If he was an Urban75 poster you wouldn't consider him to be smart.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
You do realise Elon Musk isn't actually a rocket scientist? He doesn't have an engineering degree either. And he can't even run basic code.
Dogecoin cocreator calls Elon Musk a 'grifter' who had trouble running basic code
Musk "sells a vision in hopes that he can one day deliver what he's promising, but he doesn't know that," said Jackson Palmer.
He's an investor with a talent for self-promotion who owes his starting capital to his family who owned diamond mines in apartheid South Africa. I don't see why anyone considers him smart? We all know his views and they are superficial and poorly thought out. If he was an Urban75 poster you wouldn't consider him to be smart.
And NFT guys really know what a grifter and conman looks like
BigMoaner
We will all go together
have to confess, i thought he was some hyper talented engineer, some STEM king. so when he was on rogan etc, i thought here was an interview with someone exceptionally talented and clever (although i don't place huge amounts of value on STEM stuff - i get fan boy like with the humanities: philosophers, artists, etc), but he was still interesting in that regard.
But what a sham, right? A grift! Just a rich kid with the power to invest and buy and hire.
Actually thinking about it, it's incredibly deceptive if he is not stating the fact. He should have gone on Rogan etc and at some point said "look joe, i am just a money man, this stuff is not my expertise".
But what a sham, right? A grift! Just a rich kid with the power to invest and buy and hire.
Actually thinking about it, it's incredibly deceptive if he is not stating the fact. He should have gone on Rogan etc and at some point said "look joe, i am just a money man, this stuff is not my expertise".
BigMoaner
We will all go together
you can get lucky, if you have hte money, and invest well and all of a sudden you're some genius. it's luck. but it's inbuilt in the system, isn't it? we have to value "sucess" but what is that sucess other than a few lucky rolls of the dice? but instead these folk are swollen up like super humans. i work at a top STEM uni and i would think a great deal of the teachers, proffs etc there (under paid, ordinary) would run absoloute rings around him, politically, scientifically etc. what a grift!
BristolEcho
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Reminds me of people selling their MLM opportunity. I don't watch much corporate business interviews so they could all be like this.
The man is a narcissist, so he encourages this kind of misperception. Just like he encourages the perception of him as a libertarian to his fanboys while cosying up to authoritarian states who sing his praises. It is also why he tries to get praise for environmentalism by promoting electric cars. Everything he does makes a lot of sense when you see him as a narcissist in constant need for attention and praise.
Which makes the neuralink thing and his interest in mind control and social media pretty scary IMO but luckily he is too much of an imbecile to fulfill his fantasies of brainwashing everyone to love him through an "everything app" hooked up to their brain.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
yeah, the picture of him deepens and paradoxically makes him more shallow. The "forever online" nature of the man is another thing too - shows that "feed" you are talking about, his head and subjectivity is probably entirely dominated by his online presence. Anyone with anything about them these days is not constantly trying to "win" on the internet.
good job he hasn't got so much power, lol
I still think he is a somewhat victim of the mediums he finds himself in. i sometimes for a laugh do thought experiments where TS Elliot, or Schopenheur, or Philip Larkin is online all day, tweeting, posting pictures, "debating", and it just depresses me to think of these "greats" in that context, it somehow sucks something out of them, gets rid of the mystery and the magic. I think musk is so online all the time that there is not much of the human left, his boundaries have been evaporated so the quiet innner life of musk is barely there at all. It's like he is part of the machines raw material, part of it's actual structure.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
emeralds I think. Which makes him like a malevolent saffa Dr RobotnikYou do realise Elon Musk isn't actually a rocket scientist? He doesn't have an engineering degree either. And he can't even run basic code.
Dogecoin cocreator calls Elon Musk a 'grifter' who had trouble running basic code
Musk "sells a vision in hopes that he can one day deliver what he's promising, but he doesn't know that," said Jackson Palmer.
He's an investor with a talent for self-promotion who owes his starting capital to his family who owned diamond mines in apartheid South Africa. I don't see why anyone considers him smart? We all know his views and they are superficial and poorly thought out. If he was an Urban75 poster you wouldn't consider him to be smart.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
there's a certain strand of conversative thinking that I have some sympathy for (but does not in any way affect other parts of how i see the world) - quietism, restraint, self control, non-grasping. a "no i can't" attitude instead of "yes i can do everything". social media itself is the antithesis of this: share everything, if you have a great thought, share it! get involved, reveal yourself, debate! the medium itself is addictive, it wants you to "act" all the time, comment, retweet, share your innner life, cause explosions, go viral!. And I see musk as an absoloute exempler of what they want out of a user. sad really. he could "be in the world" so differently, and it's fascinating to see him just be the world's largest Edgelord whilst his engineers and real scientists prop him up.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
sounds a bi like stoicism
BigMoaner
We will all go together
yes, i guess. i think most people realise at some point the "no i can't" instead of "yes I can" is a fundemental part of life and holds as much if not more value. giving up, letting go, what ever. think the absoloute opposite message of andrew tate or any of these motivational speakers. life itself is inherently restricted and maybe a lot of the misery comes from thinking it's not - that its this infinite pool of possibilities, and because it's really not we feel like failures for not somehow discovering these possibilities? it's old fashioned, but that line of thinking has survived millenia and is the direct antithesis of neoliberalism. it's no excuse for not wanting to improve the material conditions of everyone everywhere, but it's an existential truth i feel. life the great teacher etc. try putting a "positive outcome" twist on somethign like divorce. you can't, realising that you get some peace.
I think there's something about the nature of consumer capitalism which inherently undermines that sort of conservativism, and it's been turbocharged by social media and the instant dopamine hit and ego massage.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
100%. tyranny of "becoming" all the time. that is mediated objectively, it's what we have learnt, what is shown to us in others lives. the subject is harrased constantly by this, a nagging sense of "what's next". never actually finding satisfaction in where they are actually at. a lot of the contemplative traditions, etc had this at their heart. where am i being pulled? they go a lot deeper than this (waht is the self that is being pulled, who or what is doing the pulling etc) but this is meat and bones within the contemplative traditions. it has a lot that is valuable to say about society today, but so does marxism, etc.
Now that sounds a lot like Kierkegaard.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Apparently there are some posters on Urban who consider, or perhaps used to consider, dwyer himself to be smart, so there's really no accounting for what some people think.You do realise Elon Musk isn't actually a rocket scientist? He doesn't have an engineering degree either. And he can't even run basic code.
Dogecoin cocreator calls Elon Musk a 'grifter' who had trouble running basic code
Musk "sells a vision in hopes that he can one day deliver what he's promising, but he doesn't know that," said Jackson Palmer.
He's an investor with a talent for self-promotion who owes his starting capital to his family who owned diamond mines in apartheid South Africa. I don't see why anyone considers him smart? We all know his views and they are superficial and poorly thought out. If he was an Urban75 poster you wouldn't consider him to be smart.
Maybe your point about a talent for self promotion is relevant here too...
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
When a bloke who is used to always having the last word and is incapable of not having it buys a social media platform full of people who keep trying to have the last word it’s only going to end one way really.
Plus he’s tanked up on Ket
Plus he’s tanked up on Ket
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Those ugly trucks with the metallic paint that look like they were built by Cylons and that Musk broke the window of in a demonstration?
I have not had the privilege of seeing one. Maybe they’re too fancy for Leeds.
JimW
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I'd forgotten that moment of hilarity. Such a sad prick.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
maybe I'll see one soon cos they've just dug the road and pavement up in front of my house and started installing the necessaries for a charging point. I can't pretend I'm pleased about this. I know EV is neccesary but god damn, why was I not informed sooner.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
They are not available in the UK yet afaict. Here is the Tesla website. https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/cybertruck
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