Wow - is this thread still so active?
Musk is high profile now, but what do people make of the previous title holder of the world richest man, Bill Gates?
He gets few mentions despite his history and notorious track record?
His company 20 years ago was embroiled in all sorts of illegal and unethical anti competitive practices, yet today all seems forgotten, so struck me as a far bigger villain of the corporate world of tech than Musk.I get annoyed by Gates too. He's a little lower profile now, except as someone the right blames for everything. I do see him pop up on my feed with offers to take a subscription to his blogs. Like a lot of billionaires, they mistake the ability to make money for some kind of wisdom the rest of us should follow. It ain't so.
His company 20 years ago was embroiled in all sorts of illegal and unethical anti competitive practices, yet today all seems forgotten, so struck me as a far bigger villain of the corporate world of tech than Musk.
I stayed away from this thread for 2 days, to save myself from being on every 4th reply for about 8 pages, "me me me me me me" yadadada.Oh 100%, and I would actually have more respect for them if they positioned themselves as such. "Hi guys, fancy a debate, I am right wing. " But they don't. It's all just asking questions and such slights of hand. A lot of the grifters don't either because they know they would loose a lot of their hoodwinked audience.
You know Musk obeyed Turkey and withdrew the ability of Turkish based Twitter users to criticises the government
Musk is all about free speech as long as he’s the one being listened to
Under Elon Musk, Twitter has approved 83% of censorship requests by authoritarian governments
The social network has restricted and withdrawn content critical of the ruling parties in Turkey and India, among other countries, including during electoral campaignsenglish.elpais.com
“I’m going to take Twitter out of Europe because they asked me to stop lying and spreading antisemitism and moderate my platform”
Vs
“Yes sir Mr Erdogan, we can’t have people criticising your government and Twitter will do what you ask”
if you put a gun to my head and force me to choose between Labour and the Tories, I'd pick the tories.
It's as if they're two completely different people.Even wierder is critisising Gates is right wing it seems, yet not critisising Musk is right wing
People here (not neccessarily you) seem to think that I believe Musk will decentralise twitter. I don't know if he will.
He would simply re-double his efforts to decentralise twitter so that no government can sensor it. I hope he does.
You literally said:
Which on a plain reading clearly says that you believe he is currently in the process of decentralising Twitter. A proposition for which you provided no evidence whatsoever.
He's a narcissist, racist, transphobic edgelord and platformer for white supremacists and the GOP.
His defence of freedom of speech is promoting far right talking points over leftwing activism and dissent. Have you seen what has happened to twitter since he took over?
You'd know that if you weren't so busy meeting the entire middle classes.
You literally said:
Which on a plain reading clearly says that you believe he is currently in the process of decentralising Twitter. A proposition for which you provided no evidence whatsoever.
I could re-double my efforts to become a billionaire. Doesn't mean I'll be one.
I've never emplied that Musk controlling twitter is a great thing. It's certaintly better than the old crowd who were letting the FBI run the thing for the benefit of the Democrats.I actually think this has been the most revealing of all Staker's interventions, the place where his pretense at desiring liberty meets the reality of him loving the idea that what can and can't be said through one of the largest platforms on the internet is controlled by the whim of an arbitrary-minded tycoon. That moment when you admit your concept of "freedom" is simply kissing John Galt's ring, hoping some of the gold rubs off.
A whole lot of blah blah "socialists want to control us," all while shuffling around on his knees.
Then it won't survive in the long run. You're rather binary about all of this. It's Musk we're talking about. Not Marmite.Yes, but you would still be making the effort regardless of whether you're successful or not. There's no evidence of any effort on Musk's part to decentralise Twitter.
His defenders still insist he's a business genius despite growing evidence to the contrary, same as some still think Zuckerberg is a genius despite him blowing more than $30 billion on a failed version of Second Life
A big difference is Gates has already earned all his money and retired so isn't grabbing more, but now uses his wealth through his foundation and is now dabbling in the murky world of global organizations like the WHO.Anyone can go broke tomorrow. It's a fair comment for people to make that he's a business genius, especially when he became the richest man in the world.
I would say Gates these days is better at business even if he worth less than Musk. Musk has more chance of fucking up and going broke than Gates has, because Gates is well diversified.
However, Gates is waaaay more dodgy than Musk by a country mile. I can see myself really, really hating Gates, he really doesn't have humanities' best interests at heart.
There's a flat on the market now you might like Phillip Schofield sells £1.2m London apartment he bought with wifeI support free enterprise where I get to decide what I need, not some fucking loser of souless working class hating middle class champagne socialist bureaucrat.
As for gated communites, yep, they're great for those who don't want to live anywhere near middle class liberals.
Where I live isn't a gated community. Everyone getss along. But to be brutally honest, if it were a choice between 2000 asylum seekers arriving in my town or 2000 middle class liberals, I'd rather have the asylum seekers.
The middle class liberals would have the community fractured and divided, presenting themselves as the fucking solution to everything. Fuck that.
He better sell quick incase the market collapses early nineties style.There's a flat on the market now you might like Phillip Schofield sells £1.2m London apartment he bought with wife
Musk needs to retire and start using his wealth if he wants a rest from critics.
True, but had EM done business is such a manner I wonder if he would have a cult following Plus rockets and cars are more glam than PC OS's and spreadsheets.On the other side Gates never had hordes of right wing fan boi's defending his every action like he is a genius
True, but had EM done business is such a manner I wonder if he would have a cult following Plus rockets and cars are more glam than PC OS's and spreadsheets.
What conspiraloon thing are you thinking Bill Gates is up to?
he installed us all with chips that track our movements of course
tbf gates is a life long republican and a serial womaniser who fucked over people in business deals
but on the other side he thinks trumps is a cunt and does not cosey up to the alt right
so clearly worse than elon