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How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

elbows said:
I believe one of the Exaro articles mentioned that the police are taking this into account when looking at the guesthouse stuff and are only going for cases where someone aged <16 was involved.
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That's something.

Whether the press will do likewise...
 
butchersapron said:
Former pupils call for new investigation into abuse claims at Suffolk school

Again,in passing:
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Police have decided to look at it again.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/31/kesgrave-hall-school-abuse-police


A spokesman for Suffolk police said: "Suffolk police has retrieved papers from our storage facility in relation to an investigation carried out in 1992 in relation to complaints of abuse at Kesgrave Hall boarding school and we are at an early stage of reviewing the information.
"We encourage anyone who has been a victim of abuse to contact police and would like to reassure them that their complaints will be taken very seriously and investigated thoroughly."
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Corax said:
I don't geddit. :(
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He used to do the weather on Northwest Tonight from this floating model of the UK & Ireland at Albert Dock or somewhere like that. Anyway, he used to jump from the mainland over to Ireland.

Anyway, there were persistant rumours about his time as a teacher at a grammar school in Altringham which (if true) would've involved boys of school age rather than lads underage only because the gay age of consent was a ridiculously high 21 in those days.

E2a - There's his map uptop.
 
elbows said:
An Independent story about Elm Guest House from mid-December that I think I overlooked at the time:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-grim-mystery-of-elm-guest-house-8420435.html
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Yes, it was good to see the MSM picking up the story broken by Exaro about "Operation Fairbank" and the reporters understood that:-

"Whatever the outcome of their investigations in the past, the police seem convinced that a number of serious wrongs need to be righted."​
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This is, of course, the 'real' story here and it's all too easy to miss the Fairbank for the (Yew)Trees.
 
Such a story is not likely to be deleted from here.What it is likely to do is be given as an example of the blurring of lines between stories of abuse in high places, and blatant homophobic shit. That page is a disgrace, oh look what great evidence: George Bush in drag, and phrases such as sodomite.

If you think that sort of thing gets us closer to the truth, rather than pandering to fear, hate, and prejudice, then no wonder you arent satisfied by the pace of inquiries in the UK.
 
elbows said:
Such a story is not likely to be deleted from here.What it is likely to do is be given as an example of the blurring of lines between stories of abuse in high places, and blatant homophobic shit. That page is a disgrace, oh look what great evidence: George Bush in drag, and phrases such as sodomite.

If you think that sort of thing gets us closer to the truth, rather than pandering to fear, hate, and prejudice, then no wonder you arent satisfied by the pace of inquiries in the UK.
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Thanks David.
 
It's an atrocious link tbh. It starts badly:

This was the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.A history.
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And then ends with:

More top Republicans found to be Homosexuals. Mainstream media ignores it.
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The stuff in the middle isn't a great deal better either. What on earth did you think that might add to the debate?
 
Errr no it doesn't.

Instead of picking off the bones try looking at all of it including the watching the documentary.
 
savoloysam said:
Errr no it doesn't.

Instead of picking off the bones try looking at all of it including the watching the documentary.
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Link to the documentary (which isn't theirs - they've just embedded a youtube video) rather than the mental homophobic loon site then.
 
savoloysam said:
Thanks David.
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I didnt mind pointing out that Camerons comment about gay witch-hunts wasnt quite as irrelevant at the time as it may have seemed, and I dont mind doing so again. What this side of things must not be allowed to do is close down the inquiries into actual abuse, but that doesnt mean we have to keep silent when people pour homophobic bullshit into the mix. Quite a few of the conspiracy sites about abuse do this, I presume this is because some of them are grubby little right-wing biggot turds who have long woven the progress we have made in dealing with homophobia into some larger drooling narrative about liberal elites having an NWO agenda to make people gay or some other shit.

Dealing with that is actually the easy bit, compared to far more difficult is areas such as some rent boys ending up as rent boys because of prior exploitation or abuse. But if society is unable to even deal with the relatively easy stuff without some still descending into the demonisation of gays and then acting like theres nothing wrong with that so long as its tacked onto a story of actual abuse, I dont fancy our chances of being able to explore these tricky areas in a way that does justice to anyone.
 
Exactly. The irony is painful. And the audacity. When Vatican lawyers blame sixties, liberal sexual mores for child abuse and right wing politicians use homophobia as a defence against accusations of the same abuse we are left in a quagmire. Abuse is abuse is abuse.
 
Oh I only just noticed that loads of notes relating to the guesthouse were published to the net in a less than clear photo form. A bunch of people on twitter have commented, and the usual iffy blogs. I assume these are the rather shambolic NAYPIC notes from back in the day. Many of the details fit the descriptions in the Exaro articles from December. This is not exactly how I hoped to see justice proceed but I am not very surprised this has happened given the apparent attitude of at least one former NAYPIC person towards the establishment. The awkward gap between the internet version of reality and the legal mainstream one is back, albeit with far less attention so far.
 
elbows said:
Oh I only just noticed that loads of notes relating to the guesthouse were published to the net in a less than clear photo form. A bunch of people on twitter have commented, and the usual iffy blogs. I assume these are the rather shambolic NAYPIC notes from back in the day. Many of the details fit the descriptions in the Exaro articles from December. This is not exactly how I hoped to see justice proceed but I am not very surprised this has happened given the apparent attitude of at least one former NAYPIC person towards the establishment. The awkward gap between the internet version of reality and the legal mainstream one is back, albeit with far less attention so far.
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Are you talking about the list containing Monday Club members?
 
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