How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

[Barking_Mad]

Apologies, it was early

 

[frogwoman]

Thanks for the link. At least its possible to work out how they leapt to that conclusion. Unlike the totally bizarre comments about the media somehow being soft on people by describing them only as paedophiles, and the suggestion that paedophiles are pittied rather than demonised by the press. Quite who that message is going to resonate with given its staggering detachment from reality is beyond me.

That is why I thought it reminded me of Nambla given its emphasis on how this abuse had nothing to do with 'child love'.

 

[articul8]

Apols if this has already been posted. But
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/541793/SNP-activist-killed-over-child-sex-files

 

[Pickman's model]

Apols if this has already been posted. But
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/541793/SNP-activist-killed-over-child-sex-files

you love the tory press, don't you

 

[bluescreen]

you love the tory press, don't you

Whut? Not sure what you are suggesting here: that the Tory press is deliberately muddying the water? Hardly - Willie McRae's death has been a mystery for years. Are you pointing to a larger story of disinformation?

 

[Pickman's model]

Whut? Not sure what you are suggesting here: that the Tory press is deliberately muddying the water? Hardly - Willie McRae's death has been a mystery for years. Are you pointing to a larger story of disinformation?

i'm pointing to articul8's apparently uncritical acceptance of a story in a paper notable for its constant hysteria and support for the political right.

 

[articul8]

It is an interesting article - and very shocking if true.

 

[butchersapron]

It is an interesting article - and very shocking if true.

Danny posted it/related a week ago.

 

[articul8]

ok fair enough, hence my apologies - I haven't read 160 pages of this thread.

 

[bluescreen]

i'm pointing to articul8's apparently uncritical acceptance of a story in a paper notable for its constant hysteria and support for the political right.

It's entirely speculative like almost everything on this subject. Was curious about the emphasis on Tory.

 

[Pickman's model]

It is an interesting article - and very shocking if true.

it would be shocking. a true article in the express?

 

[Pickman's model]

It's entirely speculative like almost everything on this subject. Was curious about the emphasis on Tory.

how else would you describe the politics of the express?

 

[bluescreen]

how else would you describe the politics of the express?

Of course they are Tory. I am probably being thick but don't understand how this relates to spinning out this story.

 

[bluescreen]

I mean, what is the Tory advantage here?

 

[Pickman's model]

Of course they are Tory. I am probably being thick but don't understand how this relates to spinning out this story.

articul8 poses as a socialist. yet he uncritically accepts a tissue of supposition from a paper antipathetick to his political beliefs.

 

[Pickman's model]

I mean, what is the Tory advantage here?

there is a tension between the political beliefs articul8 affects and the political position espoused by the express. how many more times do you want me to say it before it seeps through your skull?

 

[bluescreen]

OK, your comment was about articlul8 rather than the Express. Now I understand.

 

[articul8]

articul8 poses as a socialist. yet he uncritically accepts a tissue of supposition from a paper antipathetick to his political beliefs.

in this case I think the claim bears further investigation

 

[Pickman's model]

in this case I think the claim bears further investigation

which claim, your claim of socialism or their claim of some malign conspiracy behind the death of this gentleman?

 

[bluescreen]

I put it back at you, Pickman's model, what is your theory of why the Express would be spinning out this story now? Chaff? That's assuming there is no basis for their speculation, of course - and supposing for a moment that there was some basis, why would they publish the story, except to sell papers? In which case, their Torytude is irrelevant really. The Mirror is just as bad.​

 

[Pickman's model]

I put it back at you, Pickman's model, what is your theory of why the Express would be spinning out this story now? Chaff? That's assuming there is no basis for their speculation, of course - and supposing for a moment that there was some basis, why would they publish the story, except to sell papers? In which case, their Torytude is irrelevant really. The Mirror is just as bad.​

because they paid for it

 

[bluescreen]

because they paid for it

LOL. Why pay for something you can get for free?
We should always ask ourselves why these Tories - or any news medium for that matter - are telling us this shit. Because it sells papers is an obvious answer, but not always an adequate one.

 

[Pickman's model]

LOL. Why pay for something you can get for free?
We should always ask ourselves why these Tories - or any news medium for that matter - are telling us this shit. Because it sells papers is an obvious answer, but not always an adequate one.

i am pleased to see you come round to my view of the veracity of the story.

 

[bluescreen]

Hmm. Although I'm not convinced that McRae committed suicide, I never said I believed their wilder claims. What interested me more was your theory of why they are making stuff up.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/the-death-of-willie-macrae-1.688252?14733

 

[tim]

The Sunday Fail bravely posts an article about dead people (possibly forgetting that Jeremy Thorpe is still alive).

He isn't anymore! So, lots of 70's Liberal stuff may emerge

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Does this go here?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30350179

 

[albionism]

From Edwina Currie's diary:

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

The DM is going with a story that is not news to anyone on this thread - it's just a re-statement with helpful photos.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-says-author-book-Cyril-Smith-scandal.html

The temperature is rising but.

 

[not-bono-ever]

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5419/buckingham-palace-drawn-into-scandal-over-paedophile-ring

barking mad site blates

 

[butchersapron]

Two members of Theresa May’s panel inquiring into child sex abuse are facing calls to resign after being accused of sending threatening or insulting emails to victims who had criticised the inquiry.

Lawyers for one abuse survivor have written to the home secretary to complain of a string of unsolicited communications, including an allegedly threatening email sent two days before an official meeting that both panellists and an abuse survivor were due to attend

Is it ok to say this is SM? He named loads of people om twitter. He needs real help. I don't know what to help him. I wish i could.