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How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

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How is it relevant that the abusers were of Pakistani origin? What about other people abusing children? Hit me with the clue stick.
 
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Today, (Friday, 16 November, 2012) Labour candidate Shaun Wright has been elected as Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) in South Yorkshire.

Shaun has previously held positions as a local councillor in Rotherham, and more recently as Vice Chairman of the South Yorkshire Police Authority.

During Shaun Wright’s election campaign, he outlined his vision and mission as:

Vision - To ensure that the people of South Yorkshire can live, work and learn in a place of safety and peace.

Mission - I will champion and press the community safety agenda hard in Barnsley, Doncaster, Rotherham and Sheffield for and on behalf of all our communities.
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No doubt his future CV's will include references to his role in promoting local small business and recreational facilities.
 
bluescreen said:
How is it relevant that the abusers were of Pakistani origin? What about other people abusing children? Hit me with the clue stick.
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....presumably because of the perception and operating assumption held by those at the coal-face of the system - as mentioned several times in the report - that it was this particualr factor that underlay the perpetrators apparent impunity from the law or any sanction by those in authority to restrain this terror being perpetrated on the victms and their families....same as its relevant to mention Cyril Smith and other high level nonces were MP's or Lords etc...
 
1%er said:
So for years he has been "well placed" to know what was going on :hmm:
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Indeed - although as this report makes clear it wasn't that nothing at all was being done - rather that efforts to deal with the situation began too late and never caught up, were abysmally managed and that frequently efforts by one agency were undermined by another. I gather there are further reports to come including one specifically about the role of the Police and the CPS. That should be interesting reading although something tells me it may be more 'diplomatic' in it's criticism.
 
What the report actually says about issues of ethnicity :
Within the Council, we found no evidence of children's social care staff being influenced by concerns about the ethnic origins of suspected perpetrators when dealing with individual child protection cases, including CSE [Child Sexual Abuse]. In the broader organisational context, however, there was a widespread perception that messages conveyed by some senior people in the Council and also the Police, were to 'downplay' the ethnic dimensions of CSE. Unsurprisingly, frontline staff appeared to be confused as to what they were supposed to say and do and what would be interpreted as 'racist'. From a political perspective, the approach of avoiding public
discussion of the issues was ill judged.
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There was too much reliance by agencies on traditional community leaders such as elected members and imams as being the primary conduit of communication with the Pakistani-heritage community. The Inquiry spoke to several Pakistani-heritage women who felt disenfranchised by this and thought it was a barrier to people coming forward to talk about CSE. Others believed there was wholesale denial of the problem in the Pakistani-heritage community in the same way that other forms of abuse were ignored. Representatives of women's groups were frustrated that interpretations of the Borough's problems with CSE were often based on an assumption that similar abuse did not take place in their own community and therefore concentrated mainly on young white girls.
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Both women and men from the community voiced strong concern that other than two meetings in 2011, there had been no direct engagement with them about CSE over the past 15 years, and this needed to be addressed urgently, rather than 'tiptoeing' around the issue.
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toggle said:
A horrific case. but the article you've linked to doesn't show how ti's linked to any of the major abuse scandals/investigations or investigatory failures that are being discussed.
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You're right in detail but wrong in general: there is no direct link but it shows how the culture of child abuse extends throughout society to this day. It's not limited to a particular social stratum. It's not linked to a particular racial grouping. It's not limited to a particular sex. It's there and it's wrong.
 
I agree. But this thread is not about abuse in general, it is about abuse in particular: How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring? Abuse exists across social divisions. But this is about a very particular kind of abuse. Highly organised by powerful people who use their position and influence in order to hide their crimes.
 
elbows said:
Police delay sending details to the CPS of up to 180 charges (involving 50 victims) related to networks involving politicians, with the suspicion that this is being done to avoid the present 'media frenzy'.

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5...ys-200-charges-over-claims-of-child-sex-abuse
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Yeah, way more important to worry over the alleged perpetrators' media treatment than pursue justice for the alleged victims of CSE. Sounds like the Met have been accessing training from the SYP.
 
So May has chosen a new chair to replace Butler-Sloss...

http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ce-butler-sloss-chair-child-sex-abuse-inquiry

Looks like an attempt to select a "safe pair of hands", that can chair &relate to media, but with no connection whatsoever to matters related to CSE.

The advisors look as though there are some genuinely useful folk, but I'm sure that a trusted city figure can be relied upon to steer the report clear of the most dangerous waters for the establishment.
 
This round of "six degrees of separation" bingo is already well underway. So far Fiona Woolf has been "linked" to Harriet Harman and Leon Brittan.

The fact that she had been "linked" to Brittan was put to Simon Danczuk on the R4 World at One and he was invited to say why he wasn't opposing her appointment. Hilariously it appeared that this was because Theresa May had been kind enough to ring him last night to discuss it.
 
fucking ludicrous appointment - shes has absolutely no background in the field and is about as establishment friendly as they come - as well as being the in charge of the irredeemably corrupt and self serving City of London Corporation. Well connected child rapists will be sleeping very easily in their four poster beds.
 
New boss of investigation into VIP child abuse claims is linked to Leon Brittan: The Mail On Sunday exposes family friendship of SECOND inquiry chief with the ex-MP accused of abuse file cover-up

The new chairman of a long-awaited Government inquiry into historic child sex abuse was facing calls to resign last night after The Mail on Sunday discovered her astonishing links to Leon Brittan – a key figure embroiled in the scandal.

Fiona Woolf, the Lord Mayor of London, was appointed to carry out the important role of investigating claims of an Establishment cover-up of VIP paedophile rings on Friday, two months after the original chairman was forced to step down over conflicts of interest.

But this newspaper has found that the top corporate lawyer is also closely linked to Lord Brittan – who is likely to give evidence to her inquiry. It can be revealed that she:
  • Sits on the board of a City of London conference with Lord Brittan, who is accused of overseeing an Establishment cover-up when he was Home Secretary;
  • Judges an annual City award scheme alongside Lord Brittan’s wife, Diana;
  • Gave Lord Brittan’s wife a £50 donation and a friendly good-luck message when she took part in a charity fun run last year;
  • Has been a neighbour of Lord and Lady Brittan in the same exclusive London street for the past decade;
  • Is a governor of the elite Guildhall School of Music where pupils are said to have been abused;
  • Is a patron of a body for female lawyers along with Labour’s Harriet Harman, whose National Council of Civil Liberties once had links to a notorious paedophile group
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-chief-ex-MP-accused-abuse-file-cover-up.html
 
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