How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

[Betsy]

Today's Times has a report on an abuse survivor's accusations against Nicholas Fairbairn:



Full C+P due to £wall

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article4176635.ece

If true, this is truly horrendous.

 

[Lurdan]

Today's Times has a report on an abuse survivor's accusations against Nicholas Fairbairn:

Seems to have been picked up from a longer story in yesterday's Mail :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rious-guest-house-paedophile-Cyril-Smith.html

 

[Dillinger4]

ISGP back online

 

[DaveCinzano]

Seems to have been picked up from a longer story in yesterday's Mail :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rious-guest-house-paedophile-Cyril-Smith.html

Cheers

 

[bluescreen]

I thought Simon Danczuk was one of the good guys?
MP's ferocious attack on a serving Chief Constable

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I thought Simon Danczuk was one of the good guys?
MP's ferocious attack on a serving Chief Constable

Have a look at some of the other stuff he's written for e.g. the Telegraph.

 

[lazythursday]

Danczuk treated a friend of mine really badly some years back. In my view he's a calculating, unprincipled populist. While he's shown some guts over the child abuse stuff, his initial interest must primarily be due to its potential in smearing local Lib Dems in tarring them with the Cyril Smith brush. Rochdale is a Lib/Lab marginal with a really vicious local political culture. And I don't doubt he is enjoying being painted as a crusader for justice, must be worth a few votes.

His views on welfare reform are quite shockingly right wing.

 

[laptop]

Odd phrasing here:

A paedophile at the centre of a forthcoming historical abuse inquiry advised the Home Office on changes to the residential child care system.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28793654

"Forthcoming historical" what?

 

[Pickman's model]

Odd phrasing here:



"Forthcoming historical" what?

they're investigating his noncing activities

 

[laptop]

they're investigating his noncing activities

Or will be. In the future, they'll be looking at his past. That'll be it.

 

[1%er]

A letter sent by Tom Watson’s original PMQ source, Peter McKelvie, to Lord Mandelson alleges that the Labour front bench were made aware of allegations of child rape against Sir Peter Morrison around 1993/1994.

A British Aerospace Trade Union Convenor said a member said he was raped by Peter Morrison as a child – the Convenor went to the National HQ of the union who put it to Labour front bench. Peter Mandelson (name redacted in original) was saying that the Tory Front Bench had been approached. “

 

[brogdale]

Alexis Jay Rotherham report puplished.

About 1,400 children were subjected to "appalling" sexual exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, a report has found.

Children as young as 11 were raped by multiple perpetrators, abducted, trafficked to other cities in England, beaten and intimidated it said.

The report was commissioned by Rotherham Borough Council in 2013.

1400 ffs

 

[Lurdan]

These failures occured despite three reports between 2002 and 2006 "which could not have been clearer in the description of the situation in Rotherham".

She said the first of these reports was "effectively suppressed" because senior officers did not believe the data. The other two were ignored, she added.

(...)

The report concluded: "No one knows the true scale of the child sexual exploitation (CSE) in Rotherham over the years.

"Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013."

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/26/rotherham-children-sexually-abused-report

 

[Sprocket.]

Just heard this about Rotherham on the radio.
This is unforgivable, no excuses for the perpetrators, social services and of course south Yorkshire police.

 

[brogdale]

Prof Alexis Jay, who wrote the report, said she found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone".

Jay said: "They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten and intimidated." She said she found girls as young as 11 had been raped by large numbers of men.

jesus

 

[Pickman's model]

and what about all the other rotherhams around the country?

 

[brogdale]

and what about all the other rotherhams around the country?

..and here's how the political elite will use this story to deflect attention from other more proximate tales...

The report said: "By far the majority of perpetrators were described as Asian by victims." But, she said, councillors seemed to think is was a one-off problem they hoped would go away and "several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist".

She added: "Others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so."

 

[Pickman's model]

..and here's how the political elite will use this story to deflect attention from other more proximate tales...

yeh. but when we get to deal with the ruling class nonces i suppose that by far the majority of the perpetrators will be white. paedos don't come in only one colour you know.

 

[DotCommunist]

Rotherham council, which commissioned the report, said it accepted the findings, including the statement that failures "almost without exception" were attributed to senior managers in child protection services, elected councillors and senior police officers.

as per

 

[brogdale]

yeh. but when we get to deal with the ruling class nonces i suppose that by far the majority of the perpetrators will be white. paedos don't come in only one colour you know.

of course; that's why I said they'd use it...yeah?

 

[bluescreen]

Alexis Jay Rotherham report puplished.
1400 ffs

I really don't know how to process this. The reported stories are all about a particular class of perps. That may well be biased but if it is, it suggests that the problem is even greater.

 

[Pickman's model]

of course; that's why I said they'd use it...yeah?

yeh. but it's not going to cut any mustard when more people of the stature of gary glitter or rolf harris or, dare i say, other "entertainers" who have homes abroad, start getting sent down.

 

[Sprocket.]

The victims already broken and in care then failed and abandoned by the service charged by the system with their care and then the police chose to ignore the pleas and statements of the children.
The excuse, they didn't want to appear racist!
Trust the system, pah! This is yet another case of complicity and cover up!

 

[Lurdan]

Shaun Wright the Labour Council Cabinet Member with responsibility for Children and Young People’s services between 2005 and 2010 is now South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner.

So that's all right then.

 

[Pickman's model]

Shaun Wright the Labour Council Cabinet Member with responsibility for Children and Young People’s services between 2005 and 2010 is now South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner.

So that's all right then.

no early morning knocks on his door then

 

[bluescreen]

Shaun Wright the Labour Council Cabinet Member with responsibility for Children and Young People’s services between 2005 and 2010 is now South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner.

So that's all right then.

ffs

 

[brogdale]

and what about all the other rotherhams around the country?

15:12:
Prof Jay says she would not be surprised if similar situations of widespread abuse might arise in other towns.

Like Oxford etc.

 

[Sprocket.]

The BBC were quick of the mark to show Cliff's house being searched at the behest of SYP.
Will they be as swift filming and naming the police and council officers who have been complicit and guilty of conspiracy in keeping the original crimes hidden?
Yeah!

 

[Pickman's model]

Like Oxford etc.

she'd clearly seen my post

 

[Quartz]

I've just read the article on the abuse in Rotherham.

and really don't cover it.