Grenfell Tower fire in North Kensington - news and discussion

[Paul__Macca]

I think you already answered your own question.

Everybody should have a place to live!

We don't want homeless people. If that means they have to live somewhere basic free of charge or paid for so be it. If the place they are staying in burns down, then let's find them another one.

Yes, but Grenfell wasn't a homeless person's tower. You're asking for a solution to a different problem, squirrelp.

 

[Weller]

Yes, but Grenfell wasn't a homeless person's tower. You're asking for a solution to a different problem, squirrelp.

I am getting very confused by your posts and do not understand what a homeless persons tower is ? surely if there were homeless persons towers then there would be no homeless ?
I might be missing something though but luckily I have paid work not on a zero hours contract so I am able at the moment to afford a place without "Dossing" as you put it I would imagine that many do not have that option for many other reasons also
I cannot see why giving them a home to rent or funded until they can pay when they should have one anyway is a problem ?

 

[Paul__Macca]

I am getting very confused by your posts and do not understand what a homeless persons tower is ? surely if there were homeless persons towers then there would be no homeless ?
I might be missing something though but luckily I have paid work not on a zero hours contract so I am able at the moment to afford a place without "Dossing" as you put it I would imagine that many do not have that option for many other reasons also
I cannot see why giving them a home to rent when they should have one anyway is a problem ?

Your confusion is not my problem.

 

[Weller]

Your confusion is not my problem.

Is there anything besides your own problems that are

 

[Paul__Macca]

Is there anything besides your own problems that are

I don't know mate. I haven't disclosed any of my own problems, so you'll need to expand

 

[Weller]

Paul__Macca, I'm not hearing a lot about people losing everything they've worked for

Do you not think that some of the people "Dossing" without paying their way as you put it might have been doing that there because the above may have already happened to them before this fire
What is a "Homeless persons tower" was my confusion you obviously know what one is I do not

 

[Paul__Macca]

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[Weller]

Where is the evidence of this dossing

I think they plan to tell us in 12 months or so along with the details of those that were [QUOTE="Paul__Macca "whatever happened to paying for your keep ?"[/QUOTE] perhaps

 

[Paul__Macca]

Do you not think that some of the people "Dossing" without paying their way as you put it might have been doing that there because the above may have already happened to them before this fire
What is a "Homeless persons tower" was my confusion you obviously know what one is I do not

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

 

[Paul__Macca]

I think they plan to tell us in 12 months or so along with the details of those that were [QUOTE="Paul__Macca "whatever happened to paying for your keep ?"

perhaps [/QUOTE]
So were you dossing?

 

[Weller]

So were you dossing?

Ive used a bloke in the pubs couch in the past - not sure it was registered anywhere though Id have used one of these "Homeless Peoples Towers" you mentioned if you would tell me what one is its all I asked really

 

[Weller]

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

Shocked you seemed to have so much empathy earlier
They could stay in one of your "Homeless Peoples Towers" perhaps once they have a decent fully contracted job and can pay 2 months deposit

 

[Paul__Macca]

Ive used a bloke in the pubs couch in the past - not sure it was registered anywhere though Id have used one of these "Homeless Peoples Towers" you mentioned if you would tell me what one is its all I asked really

I mean like a YMCA or some other kind of temporary hostel. It's not difficult.

 

[Weller]

I mean like a YMCA or some other kind of temporary hostel. It's not difficult.

It is

 

[mojo pixy]

I haven't disclosed any of my own problems

You think you haven't but your posts are pretty transparent so far. It's not hard to see what you think some of your problems are. From where I'm sitting, one of them seems to be a lack of empathy, though even if you accept this is a problem, I'm sure you'll blame it on other people.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

A bit much when it's your hearing that's the problem

 

[Libertad]

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

I don't know mate. I haven't disclosed any of my own problems, so you'll need to expand

Your main problem is that you're a cunt.

 

[existentialist]

Your main problem is that you're a cunt.

Do you think that's his main problem, or just one of the subsidiary ones?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you think that's his main problem, or just one of the subsidiary ones?

His problems are legion

 

[eatmorecheese]

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

You're clearly struggling to keep a grip on the real world. Poverty doesn't leave much room for laziness.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Which question? The one about subletters? Subletting is normally outlawed. And if you live in an outlawed society, you must accept cowboy rules. UNFORTUNATELY.

Go on any local authority website and you'll find that most local authorities have a subletting policy that allows subletting by local authority tenants provided you get permission from that local authority. Perhaps a little more research, and a little less portentousness, Oswald?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I mean like a YMCA or some other kind of temporary hostel. It's not difficult.

It's been difficult to get a bed in a YMCA for the last 30 years or so. They're ridiculously over-subscribed, as is most temp. accommodation.

 

[ViolentPanda]

His problems are legion

Oddly enough, legion's my middle name.

 

[Pickman's model]

The Grenfell inquiry must look at the developers carving up our cities | Anna Minton
anna minton always worth reading

 

[Nylock]

And still they keep on coming. I'll say this for you; you are certainly delivering on the bingo-card front atm:

I don't really care. I'm a bit fed up hearing about people who need housing, education, food, a job, happiness and fulfilment without lifting a solitary finger.
So to me...the "dossers" should get off their lazy arses and get a job to pay for their own room.

I mean like a YMCA or some other kind of temporary hostel. It's not difficult.

 

[existentialist]

And still they keep on coming. I'll say this for you; you are certainly delivering on the bingo-card front atm:

My magic marker burst into flames about 5 posts in...

 

[Nylock]

My magic marker burst into flames about 5 posts in...

TBF I'd pre-emptively filled mine in before the replies started, and so-far he's on the money

 

[DotCommunist]

I don't know mate. I haven't disclosed any of my own problems, so you'll need to expand

squeakyarsehole. Really not the thead for you is it?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Hooray! The first Grenfell related court case.

Oh...it's capitalists squabbling over the share price.

http://www.reuters.com/art…/us-arconic-lawsuit-idUSKBN19Y2U8

 

[squirrelp]

Do you not think that some of the people "Dossing" without paying their way as you put it might have been doing that there because the above may have already happened to them before this fire
What is a "Homeless persons tower" was my confusion you obviously know what one is I do not

I was a bit puzzled by this too.