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Grenfell council gained £50m from affordable housing deals
The council that ran the Grenfell Tower block struck deals worth nearly £50m last year to allow developers to avoid having to build affordable homes, research for BBC News shows. Kensington and Chelsea's own analysis shows it has built a fraction of the social housing the borough needs...

...The council's policy is for half of homes in large housing schemes to be available for rent or sale at below market rates. The official target is to build 200 affordable units - flats or houses - each year between 2011 and 2021. But the council's own figures show that since 2011-12, just 336 units have been built; in 2012-13, just four were completed. At the same time, Kensington and Chelsea struck deals with developers to pay it nearly £60m...

And I'll be willing to bet that K&C isn't alone among London (and probably other) councils in accepting what are, in effect, legalised bribes from developers to avoid including necessary social housing in new developments :mad:
 
The first full council meeting of Kensington and Chelsea is due to take place at 6.30pm on Wednesday 19th July. Please join our peaceful protest outside the Town Hall from 6pm.

We are outraged that the public and press were excluded from observing a meeting of the council cabinet at Kensington Town Hall on Thursday 29th June. The press only gained entry after a court order was issued against the council but the public were still shut out.

The council has assured the community that local residents will be allowed into the meeting. We will be at the council building to make sure this happens.
Protest at Kensington and Chelsea Town Hall – Wednesday 19th July from 6pm, called by Justice4Grenfell

I'm going to see if I can make it down for this.
 
The newly elected deputy leader of Kensington and Chelsea council has promised that there'll be no Hillsborough-style cover-up of the Grenfell Tower disaster as all the relevant files are in police hands.
Read more at Grenfell Tower: New council No.2 promises there'll be no Hillsborough-style cover-up
to be fair, this is twisting the context of the quote fairly sneakily.

Sam put it to his interviewee that the council still has access to records and information, and could thus tamper with the details - as happened after the Hillsborough disaster in 1989.

But Taylor-Smith said this was impossible, telling our listeners "the police have secured all the files, they've taken copies of absolutely everything, so that has all been preserved and that is part and parcel, as it should be, of their investigation.
 

Article which follows up on this Councillors fear abuse – Grenfell residents are used to it

On Wednesday evening, I attended the first open council meeting of Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea council (RBKC) since the Grenfell Tower fire. The last meeting barred the public and, initially, the press until a court order demanded we be let in – then the meeting was adjourned due to our presence. On Wednesday, locals queued outside but were told there was limited space so most would be able to watch only by videolink. The journalists were patted down by security guards and had our bags searched before being allowed into the chamber.

A number of survivors were granted seats in the chamber. Part of the agenda was given over to hearing their testimony and that of their family members. The testimonies were harrowing, full of both insurmountable, open grief and uncontrollable anger at both the repeated refusal to listen to residents’ concerns before the blaze, and their shambolic and callous treatment since.

The aunt of missing Jessica Urbano told the council she had emailed the council’s new leader Elizabeth Campbell about the treatment of her 13-year-old niece’s family, but had received no reply. Another escapee said: “I wish I had lain down and died in the inferno, because the children that went to bed and turned to ash in that tower did not deserve to die. We need closure. We know you can’t bring back the dead, but you can treat them better than dogs. Britain is a banana republic now.”

Throughout the meeting, those allowed inside complained vociferously about the fact that many survivors were locked out, or in a balcony above the main chamber, prevented from speaking. Residents outside hammered on the locked doors as security held them back, and those inside demanded they be let in, further panicked by the fact that security staff appeared to have locked the fire doors in a particularly cruel irony. Every response from Conservative councillors was met with boos, heckles and calls to resign and stand down. It was clear that no residents present had any faith in the leadership’s ability to address concerns about housing across the borough, and the Labour and Liberal Democrat councillors present repeatedly called for commissioners to be brought in and the leadership to stand down.
 
I'm glad that Dawn Foster is doing this, it feels like most of the media have already moved on from Grenfell or at least moved on from covering what is happening to the residents.
 
Went past Grenfell Tower today while travelling out of London on the M40.

Photos and footage I have seen online and on TV somehow don't give the full picture as you are distanced from it.

I'm not sure but I think it may be the worst thing I have ever seen in my whole life.

I work in housing and have taken a keen interest in this thread and in the news about Grenfell Tower. I haven't had anything to add because anger and sympathy are taken as read.

The thing that angers me the most is how the residents' persistent complaints about fire safety and power surges were ignored. They were the ones living there day to day, they knew there were issues, they reported them time after time and yet this happened.
 
Came across this site:

https://www.grenfelltowerinquiry.org.uk/

The next public consultation meeting on the terms of reference, for survivors and local residents, will be held at 6.30pm on Tuesday 25 July 2017 at the Notting Hill Methodist Church, 240 Lancaster Road, London W11 4AH.

This is the official website of the Grenfell Tower Inquiry. The site will be used to provide the latest information on the Inquiry, including details of hearings, evidence and how to contact the Inquiry Team.
 
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A few other bits of information, some of which are in the tweet.

Our numbers are still slightly less than the official police ones in both deaths (75/80) and the total number of people recorded as living/present in the building at the time of the fire (316/355) IIRC.

There are 8 flats we have with no resident information for. These could be empty, but on the basis they have people living in them we can estimate another 25 people on those flats (we know all the bedroom sizes and can work this out from the other flats). We also have 8 two-bed flats with just one person living in each. This seems unlikely, but possible. However if we again use the numbers in other two bed flats we can estimate another 11 people living there. This would bring a possible total number of people living/present at Grenfell to 352. Which by coincidence or otherwise is nearly the current police total.

The flats with no information on them suggest there might be a higher death toll, but counter to this is the fact that 6 out of the 8 are below floor 10, and as far as we know everyone below floor 10 escaped with their lives. Of course there's the possibility they were empty at the time, or that people died, but the later seems in my opinion unlikely given the numbers and testimony about knocking on doors etc.

We haven't seen many solid examples of "undocumented migrants/illegal subletting" etc. taking place. There's certainly 2, two-bed flats with 6 and 7 people living in them, but they are all of the same family. We had to remove 3 people from the list as the guy turned out to be fraudulently claiming himself, his wife and son lived there - when they didn't).
 
Architects for Social Housing have produced an excellent report on Grenfell Tower

The Truth about Grenfell Tower: A Report by Architects for Social Housing

1. Technical Causes of the Grenfell Tower Fire
2. Management Decisions responsible for the Grenfell Tower Fire
3. Political Context for the Grenfell Tower Fire
4. The Fire Safety of Council Tower Blocks
5. The Programme of Estate Regeneration
6. Accountability for the Grenfell Tower Fire

(also available as a PDF here).

Best attempt I've seen so far to look in detail at the specific issues raised by the fire, and then set them into a wider political context. It's particularly strong on how the 'regeneration' which rendered the building unsafe fits into the overall plans for social housing implemented by Councils of all political persuasions.
The Grenfell Tower fire happened in a Conservative-run borough, but the series of management and political decisions that led to the fire – the indifference of the Tenant Management Organisation to residents, the contracting out of the refurbishment to a private company specialising in cost management, the cost cutting that led to flammable insulation material being used, the negligence that led to the use of a combustible cladding system that acted as a chimney for the fire, the ignoring of warnings by the London Fire Brigade and residents about inadequate fire safety in the block, and the financial motivations for the refurbishment itself – are being replicated across London.
And although the Labour Party has sought to turn this disaster into a stick with which to beat the Conservative government, the estate regeneration programme that caused it is primarily being implemented in Labour boroughs, where more than 170 estates that we know of are under threat of privatisation, demolition and social cleansing by the regeneration schemes of Labour-run councils.

But even at the purely 'technical' level it's the first account I've seen which explains aspects of the cladding system relating to the windows in terms simple enough for me to grasp.

And it contains a handy list of 60 people who they believe
should be immediately arrested by the police and their records seized, investigated for their role in the Grenfell Tower fire, and where necessary put on trial in a criminal court
 
Architects for Social Housing have produced an excellent report on Grenfell Tower

The Truth about Grenfell Tower: A Report by Architects for Social Housing

1. Technical Causes of the Grenfell Tower Fire
2. Management Decisions responsible for the Grenfell Tower Fire
3. Political Context for the Grenfell Tower Fire
4. The Fire Safety of Council Tower Blocks
5. The Programme of Estate Regeneration
6. Accountability for the Grenfell Tower Fire

(also available as a PDF here).

Best attempt I've seen so far to look in detail at the specific issues raised by the fire, and then set them into a wider political context. It's particularly strong on how the 'regeneration' which rendered the building unsafe fits into the overall plans for social housing implemented by Councils of all political persuasions.



But even at the purely 'technical' level it's the first account I've seen which explains aspects of the cladding system relating to the windows in terms simple enough for me to grasp.

And it contains a handy list of 60 people who they believe
Thank you very much for this. I really urge anyone who has the time to put aside a few hours and go through this, giving each section the attention it deserves. If you can't hack the technical stuff please give section 5 a go at least as it covers the wider battles to come and who we'll be fighting in great detail.
 
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