Filth by name. . .

[Pickman's model]

You're absolutely right, however, I do wonder how old their system was and when it was last updated. The hardware side of cybersecurity systems is not my area of expertise but I think the police may still use CDs to make two identical copies of interviews.

I would hazard a guess that the recording systems in use are not state of the art.

i don't suppose they are. but if i was a lawyer - prosecution or defence - i would want the original footage, not simply some copy, available for, as they say, fact verification and training purposes. it could so easily have been saved to a folder on the system rather than placed on disks which may or may not function later. as this has been an ongoing issue in policing for many years there is obviously some systemic difficulty and surely no one wants to be put in the position of apologising for yet another loss of police footage.

 

[Lurdan]

You're absolutely right, however, I do wonder how old their system was and when it was last updated. The hardware side of cybersecurity systems is not my area of expertise but I think the police may still use CDs to make two identical copies of interviews.

I would hazard a guess that the recording systems in use are not state of the art.

As far as I know some police forces were still using cassette tapes for interviews until fairly recently.

 

[GarveyLives]

"A serving police officer, PC Luke Horner, of Thames Valley Police, has admitted to sexual activity with a 13-year-old girl, and recording the crime on her mobile phone ..."

Thames Valley Police officer admits sex with girl, 13, and recording crime on victim's mobile phone

"The force has also referred the matter to the Independent Office for Police Conduct"​

 

[tony.c]

Kevin Clarke: Met Police officers to face hearings over restraint death

Kevin Clarke died after being restrained by up to nine officers in south-east London in 2018.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[equationgirl]

i don't suppose they are. but if i was a lawyer - prosecution or defence - i would want the original footage, not simply some copy, available for, as they say, fact verification and training purposes. it could so easily have been saved to a folder on the system rather than placed on disks which may or may not function later. as this has been an ongoing issue in policing for many years there is obviously some systemic difficulty and surely no one wants to be put in the position of apologising for yet another loss of police footage.

I think this raises an interesting point when is it an original recording, and when is it a copy? Also does an independent person make the copies?

There's also bound to be some systems that aren't digital and still rely on tape as the former. No system is going to constantly only use brand new tapes.

I suspect there needs to be a massive upgrading project around CCTV upgrading in police stations and custody suites, and that people are going to baulk at the cost, however necessary.

 

[two sheds]

You wonder who's responsible for keeping the copies safe.

 

[Pickman's model]

You wonder who's responsible for keeping the copies safe.

the custody sergeant obvs

 

[teqniq]

It's all a little too convenient for my liking:



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Iman Zayna has a Twitter account and she's on a mission:

 

[AverageJoe]

You're absolutely right, however, I do wonder how old their system was and when it was last updated. The hardware side of cybersecurity systems is not my area of expertise but I think the police may still use CDs to make two identical copies of interviews.

I would hazard a guess that the recording systems in use are not state of the art.

They do still record two cds.

Mine worked. Against me.

 

[tony.c]

Met Police officer admits ABH over claim he kicked suspect during arrest

Thomas Karlsen has admitted assault causing actual bodily harm during a callout to a domestic dispute

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[tony.c]

Police commander who wrote anti-drugs strategy ‘smoked cannabis before breakfast’

Mr Bennett wrote the force’s drugs strategy for 2017-21 as a commander for territorial policing

www.independent.co.uk

The LSD and magic mushrooms allegations were dismissed today for 'lack of evidence'. The hearing will continue tomorrow to make a decision on the cannabis allegation.

Claim Met Police commander took LSD and magic mushrooms dismissed

Cdr Julian Bennett is also accused of regularly smoking cannabis, which is still before a tribunal.

www.bbc.co.uk

He told tribunal he refused to take drugs test because he took CBD oil for medical reasons and thought it would give a positive result.

Met Police: Cdr Julian Bennett feared he would fail drugs test - tribunal

Cdr Julian Bennett was accused by his lodger of regularly smoking cannabis before work.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DaveCinzano]

Mother of murder victim on the Met:

Jasna Badzak, who was previously a protected witness in two trials of war criminals at The Hague, after fleeing her native Yugoslavia, said: "Putting criminals behind bars in The Hague was a piece of cake compared with dealing with the Metropolitan police."

Kilburn: Two men jailed for life for murdering aspiring lawyer

Sven Badzak, 22, was killed in a case of mistaken identity in north-west London in 2021.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[equationgirl]

The British Transport Police making a rare(ish) foray onto the thread courtesy of Derek Ridgewell falsifying evidence against two men who died in prison.

Cases of two men convicted on corrupt police officer’s evidence referred back to courts

Exclusive: Cases of Basil Peterkin and Saliah Mehmet, who have since died, are latest referrals relating to DS Derek Ridgewell

www.theguardian.com

Some posters may recall this PC was later jailed himself for stealing mailbags, plus his involvement in the framing of the Oval Four and the Stockwell Six.

CCRC reviewing his involvement in anybody convicted and imprisoned.

 

[existentialist]

You're absolutely right, however, I do wonder how old their system was and when it was last updated. The hardware side of cybersecurity systems is not my area of expertise but I think the police may still use CDs to make two identical copies of interviews.

I would hazard a guess that the recording systems in use are not state of the art.

And they're probably at some pains not to make them state of the art. Imagine the trouble it would cause if people could reasonably assume that incriminating evidence against the police was able to be found...

 

[existentialist]

i don't suppose they are. but if i was a lawyer - prosecution or defence - i would want the original footage, not simply some copy, available for, as they say, fact verification and training purposes. it could so easily have been saved to a folder on the system rather than placed on disks which may or may not function later. as this has been an ongoing issue in policing for many years there is obviously some systemic difficulty and surely no one wants to be put in the position of apologising for yet another loss of police footage.

They might consider that preferable to apologising for a well-documented abuse of police powers.

 

[equationgirl]

Should anyone wish to explore the extent of Derek Ridgewell's corruption, one of the men he fitted up collaborated on a book : 'Rot at the core' by Graham Satchwell and Winston Trew:

A real Line of Duty: the London police officer who ‘went bent’

TV series finale coincides with true crime book launch about notoriously corrupt DS Derek Ridgewell

www.theguardian.com

The guardian article draws parallels between the book and Line of Duty.

 

[equationgirl]

The Compensation deductions rule has been scrapped, and not before time. Now MPs are apparently calling for anyone affected by this rule to have their deductions reimbursed:

Prison living costs rule scrapped for wrongly convicted

Andy Malkinson, who cleared his name after 17 years in jail, tells the BBC more still needs to be done.

www.bbc.co.uk

Andrew Malkinson still has a wait of two years for his compensation.

 

[savoloysam]

Apparently when cleared years later after being found guilty it's still extremely hard to get compensation. That needs to be looked at too.

 

[equationgirl]

Apparently when cleared years later after being found guilty it's still extremely hard to get compensation. That needs to be looked at too.

Absolutely. This is a simple calculation not integral calculus. A time period of 1 to 3 months should be more than enough time to get a calculation done, an amount proposed and approval given to release the funds.

 

[mx wcfc]

Absolutely. This is a simple calculation not integral calculus. A time period of 1 to 3 months should be more than enough time to get a calculation done, an amount proposed and approval given to release the funds.

and there is no reason at all why they can't just immediately pay out, say £500k as an advance.

 

[quiet guy]

This is the Home Office you're talking about.

 

[GarveyLives]

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley: "Crazy" and "disrespectful to black and minority ethnic Londoners” ...

(Source: as stated in image)

Metropolitan Police chief Sir Mark Rowley ‘crazy’ for not accepting the force is institutionally racist, says Louise Casey

No doubt it will be a relief to everyone to hear of further evidence that, as their leadership asserts, the Metropolitan Police is not institutionally racist:

Metropolitan Police only authorised baton rounds for black-led events, Freedom Of Information request reveals

 

[seeformiles]

I reckon Mr Malkinson should press for the GMP detectives involved in withholding evidence to be prosecuted and the bastards should lose the pensions they are likely now drawing. The notion that you could knowingly rob an innocent man of a significant portion of his life for the sake of a conviction at any cost is completely abhorrent. Those involved are complete fucking amoral scum.

 

[Fedayn]

No doubt it will be a relief to everyone to hear of further evidence that, as their leadership asserts, the Metropolitan Police is not institutionally racist:

Metropolitan Police only authorised baton rounds for black-led events, Freedom Of Information request reveals

Utterly shocked I am......

 

[equationgirl]

Andrew Malkinson's conviction has been ruled as unsafe by appeal judges due to Greater Manchester Police withholding evidence at his trial

Andrew Malkinson: Greater Manchester Police criticised over trial evidence

Andrew Malkinson says Greater Manchester Police's actions caused his "wrongful conviction nightmare".

www.bbc.co.uk

I think this could potentially form the basis for prosecution of those involved, whether they are still serving officers or not .

 

[tony.c]

Judge seeks police speed review after Met PC jailed over fatal crash

PC Nadeem Patel, 28, was responding to an emergency when his police car struck and killed Shante Daniel-Folkes, 25, as she crossed Stockwell Road

www.standard.co.uk

 

[GarveyLives]

The Metropolitan Police have launched an "investigation" into the case of a young man who was attacked by a police dog in the street - after officers were called to deal with an incident in east London.

Nineteen-year-old Lavell Williams was left with serious injuries and permanent scarring to his arm - and his family says his mental health is still badly affected.

The Metropolitan Police said they would make sure that the full facts were examined in detail. Feel free to examine them for yourself:

​

 

[tony.c]

Former GMP officer James White jailed for assault on teenage girl.

Ex GMP cop jailed for 'stuff of nightmares' attack on girl as she walked home

Disgraced cop James White was dismissed from his role with GMP in 2015 after sexually harassing female colleagues in the force

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[agricola]

No doubt it will be a relief to everyone to hear of further evidence that, as their leadership asserts, the Metropolitan Police is not institutionally racist:

Metropolitan Police only authorised baton rounds for black-led events, Freedom Of Information request reveals

That is quite a misleading article - that authorization of those rounds for the protests in 2020 was for the anti-BLM one (the BLM one for that weekend had been cancelled).

 

[GarveyLives]

The Metropolitan Police have paid substantial damages to a teenager, who says he feared for his life when he was stopped and searched in the street:

Metropolitan Police pay damages to black teenager ‘who had Taser pressed to neck’

"We will be speaking to local community groups about the incident and the police response to reassure them."​

How "reassuring".