Fascist attack on SWP in Lewisham

[goldenecitrone]

Totally unconvincing to think that 'pasty faced' would help either identify the attackers or change the composition of the left.

Wasn't this cunt was it?

 

[The39thStep]

get over yourself. "pasty faced" is relevant as is "tanned" or "tattooed".

Ill fitting suits ?

 

[Transpontine]

Totally unconvincing to think that 'pasty faced' would help either identify the attackers or change the composition of the left.

I don't think 'pasty faced' has any particular snobbish connotations does it? In my family we have always said that someone 'looks a bit pasty' to mean very pale faced in a slightly unhealthy way (and on my Scottish side of the family that would include most of my relatives). That's all it means to me, as opposed to say tanned.

Taken with the other information (hair, jewellery, clothes), and the exact location, I think it would be enough information to be able to identify this person.

And no, it wasn't the woman on the bus in Tower Hamlets.

 

[Red Storm]

Actually the history of British fascism has been more of a three cornered fight between anti fascists, fascists and police. Next Saturday the area where the stalls are will be crawling with Johnny Law.

From my experience regarding the EDL the police seem to hate them more than the left, in general.

I get the feeling they see them as nothing more than football hooligans. The policing used against the EDL has always been much more draconian than against the left.

The Manchester EDL demo is a prime example. They surrounded them the EDL with dogs whilst used police to kettle the anti-fascists.

 

[killer b]

'pasty faced' is pure dog-whistle. You may as well have called her a whey-faced harridan.

 

[elfman]

From my experience regarding the EDL the police seem to hate them more than the left, in general.

I get the feeling they see them as nothing more than football hooligans. The policing used against the EDL has always been much more draconian than against the left.

The Manchester EDL demo is a prime example. They surrounded them the EDL with dogs whilst used police to kettle the anti-fascists.

My experience around West Yorks is the same and it will probably be same in most places outside of London I think.

 

[Frances Lengel]

I don't think 'pasty faced' has any particular snobbish connotations does it? In my family we have always said that someone 'looks a bit pasty' to mean very pale faced in a slightly unhealthy way (and on my Scottish side of the family that would include most of my relatives). That's all it means to me, as opposed to say tanned.

Taken with the other information (hair, jewellery, clothes), and the exact location, I think it would be enough information to be able to identify this person.

And no, it wasn't the woman on the bus in Tower Hamlets.

Peely wally.

 

[HST]

You ever had a physical description written down by Police.No fucking earlobes,the bastards,caused me concern for days.

I had "dirty teeth"

 

[Frances Lengel]

From my experience regarding the EDL the police seem to hate them more than the left, in general.

I get the feeling they see them as nothing more than football hooligans. The policing used against the EDL has always been much more draconian than against the left.

The Manchester EDL demo is a prime example. They surrounded them the EDL with dogs whilst used police to kettle the anti-fascists.

I was thinking that as well.

 

[malatesta32]

im proud to be pasty faced! anyway, red storm regarding plod and EDL, the 2 things the cops hate most are 'lively demos' and pissed soccer team supporters. with the edl they get both and this makes them very nervous. at all the EDL demos ive been on the cops have acted very nervously and been aggressive to both sides. and it looks like they were last week at brighton with their pepper sprays and batons.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

Using the phrase pasty face did come across as snobby in my view, even if it wasn't meant that way.

More to the point though I think it's a bit fucked up that some people on this thread chose to focus on that phrase rather than the fact a pensioner has been beaten up by fascists. Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees.

 

[malatesta32]

im surprised bignose aint got on to this but surely a pun regarding the mispelt 'facist' and blatantly facist atittudes about us 'pasty faces' is in order?

 

[Ranbay]

 

[malatesta32]

I thought the witness was describing that horrible bastard who fell off the bus in Tower Hamlets a few months ago?

that was joanne 'bus stop pole dancer' dickens who we reported as getting a kick up the drainpipe and then her notts colleagues were all nicked on the triumphant tower hamlets victory. i lost the link but someone had said she done a wee as well. so pissy and pasty! (almost as bad as the SDL member who pissed himself on the last demo and moaned to plod!).

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Transpontine]

im proud to be pasty faced!

Well I never said there was anything wrong with being pasty faced, but to appease those who think it has particular connotations I have amended the original post so it now says this:

'there was a very obvious group of about 10 -15 fascists standing by Lewisham Food Market and closely watching what was going on at the Clock Tower. They had scouts posted on corners nearby presumably looking out for signs of the cavalcade. I got a good look at one of them as she came away from the group and stood at the bottom of Lee High Road - a woman with dyed black hair, pale skin and an eyebrow piercing, wearing a black Paul's Boutique coat with a yellow cancer charity daffodil, probably about 5 foot six. I think the rest were all blokes, mostly in their 20s or younger with various rain gear including at least one big umbrella [can I just be clear that I don't have a problem with eyebrow piercing or Paul's Boutique - the description is included because it might help the victims identify their attackers, not to make any snobby point about EDL dress codes]'.

As for whether they were EDL or not, I'm not sure how meaningful that is - I think what you have is a loose bunch of right wing wannabe fighters who may operate under various flags of convenience without necessarily identifying with any one particular organisation.

I note on twitter that some EDL types are mocking the 'claim' that one of the two people attacked was a pensioner. I was talking to the two people concerned shortly before the attack, and one of them is definitely well into his 60s or maybe older. Another eye witness quoted on twitter helped him get up off the ground where he had been knocked down.

 

[The39thStep]

Well I never said there was anything wrong with being pasty faced, but to appease those who think it has particular connotations I have amended the original post so it now says this:

'there was a very obvious group of about 10 -15 fascists standing by Lewisham Food Market and closely watching what was going on at the Clock Tower. They had scouts posted on corners nearby presumably looking out for signs of the cavalcade. I got a good look at one of them as she came away from the group and stood at the bottom of Lee High Road - a woman with dyed black hair, pale skin and an eyebrow piercing, wearing a black Paul's Boutique coat with a yellow cancer charity daffodil, probably about 5 foot six. I think the rest were all blokes, mostly in their 20s or younger with various rain gear including at least one big umbrella [can I just be clear that I don't have a problem with eyebrow piercing or Paul's Boutique - the description is included because it might help the victims identify their attackers, not to make any snobby point about EDL dress codes]'.

As for whether they were EDL or not, I'm not sure how meaningful that is - I think what you have is a loose bunch of right wing wannabe fighters who may operate under various flags of convenience without necessarily identifying with any one particular organisation.

I note on twitter that some EDL types are mocking the 'claim' that one of the two people attacked was a pensioner. I was talking to the two people concerned shortly before the attack, and one of them is definitely well into his 60s or maybe older. Another eye witness quoted on twitter helped him get up off the ground where he had been knocked down.

Cheers Transpontine.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

What's a facist??

 

[malatesta32]

What's a facist??

spanks, it is someone who makes facially prejudiced remarks. PROUD TO BE PASTY!

 

[revlon]

What's a facist??

a factory records obsessive

 

[Ranbay]

Whoop there it is... Best thing about these fuckwits is they cant keep quiet they need to boast about it.

 

[DrRingDing]

Nice find Bob

 

[Transpontine]

Whoop there it is... Best thing about these fuckwits is they cant keep quiet they need to boast about it.

I can see that's facebook but where from? Is it an EDL page or something ? What makes you think this has anything to do with Lewisham?

 

[ddraig]

probably the crowing, south london and millwall references
cunts

 

[Mrs Magpie]

can someone amend spelling mistake in the title please?

Only just seen it. Next time just PM me.

 

[Mr Smin]

I had "dirty teeth"

My mate got "unkempt". He was mortified.

 

[Ranbay]

I can see that's facebook but where from? Is it an EDL page or something ? What makes you think this has anything to do with Lewisham?

The clues are in the previous Twitter shots.

 

[fogbat]

My mate got "unkempt". He was mortified.

"Stocky build"

 

[rekil]

Whoop there it is... Best thing about these fuckwits is they cant keep quiet they need to boast about it.

There's a 'Donna Young' here going for Millwall Lioness something or other. And Mr. 'David Millwall Smith' is on there as well.

 

[DrRingDing]

There's a 'Donna Young' here going for Millwall Lioness something or other. And Mr. 'David Millwall Smith' is on there as well.

"

i was born and bread millwall​

"