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Unless you have to be, e.g. for work, for fear of losing your job.
Face masks
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Am struggling to think what would be wrong that you cannot cover you mouth and nose in some manner. My savagely asthmatic nephew has no issues with masks and my mum’s mate Gaynor manages even though it’s a tad pointless as she breathes through a hole in her neck...
Mation
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More likely severe anxiety and stress than physical? (I don't know.)
Steel Icarus
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People on the Autism spectrum, people with PTSD, anxiety or other mental health issues, people with disabilities
izz
Increased Leisure Citizen
Zackly ! We're so used to life being easy and really, masks aren't so bad. I do get the communication side of it but, well, things could be a lot worse and having to try a little harder in shops isn't such a terrible thing but some people seem to think it's apocalyptic.
FridgeMagnet
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friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I'm asthmatic, have a bit of a medical mask phobia and not keen on face coverings in general but even I can cope with a mask when I have to in shops etc.
I'm terrified of catching flu, infections or covid.
I'm getting increasingly anxious about the number of people on buses or indoors who don't wear masks and get too close, it means I'm constantly on full alert, flight or fight mode whenever I leave the house. I'm feeling so panicky its exhausting.
To all those people who say I'm fine with not wearing a mask and I don't care about distancing - I just want to say - I do care! so KEEP THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME.
I'm terrified of catching flu, infections or covid.
I'm getting increasingly anxious about the number of people on buses or indoors who don't wear masks and get too close, it means I'm constantly on full alert, flight or fight mode whenever I leave the house. I'm feeling so panicky its exhausting.
To all those people who say I'm fine with not wearing a mask and I don't care about distancing - I just want to say - I do care! so KEEP THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME.
Mation
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I walked into a shop the other day having forgotten to put my mask on. (I usually put it on before I leave the house if going to local shops as I know I'm likely to forget when at the shop, but this time forgot that too.)Popped into the shop today. Started putting things into my bag at the checkout and there was my mask! Completely forgot to put it on.
I would probably have been better to just put it on where I was as soon as I realised, but my literal brain marched me all the way back out, where I then put it on, and went back in again
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
I agree with this. At first, I was politely reminding everyone who came into the shop without a mask that it's mandatory to wear one. At one point we were considering not serving people without one but that idea was quickly dropped when we learned the likes of Sainsburies and Tesco weren't enforcing it. There was pretty good compliance in the first week but now it's dropped to around 50%.
I had sympathy with people being unable to wear one for health reasons but the more I've seen people flout it the more that sympathy wained. Like you, I struggle to think what's so bad about your health that you can't wear a mask for 2 minutes while you duck into a shop to buy a loaf of bread. I think it's the height of selfishness to just walk in somewhere without a mask when you're perfectly able to wear one.
I've had people say 'I can't wear a mask I've got COPD' then in the same breath ask me for a pouch of tobacco. I've had others say they've got anxiety but then stand around chatting for 10 minutes to strangers whilst lifting the mask up and down. That's not to say they don't genuinely have these ailments but if you can do these things then you can wear a mask for 2 minutes.
I said this during lockdown I still maintain it. I don't think we're as socially conscious and as caring of others as we might like to think we are. I don't like thinking that but I think it's true. Sure, we dress it up as clap for key workers and 'ooh thank you for carrying on working' but a large amount of people couldn't do the basics of staying home as much as possible during the lockdown and they can't do the basics of wearing a mask in enclosed spaces now.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Some people really have lost the plot over what is nothing more than wearing a piece of cloth over your face.
A friend of a friend's colleague at a factory he works in handed his notice in, after having worked there for years mind, because he refuses to wear a mask on the factory floor because he doesn't believe in them. He's got a wife and kids too! To hand your notice in over that and at a time when jobs are being shed all over the place is probably the maddest thing I've heard about during this. It's actually quite sad because he's had his brains turned to mush by a load of anti vax/5g type bollocks he's read about on facebook. In fact I think he's in the camp that covid-19 is all a government hoax
A friend of a friend's colleague at a factory he works in handed his notice in, after having worked there for years mind, because he refuses to wear a mask on the factory floor because he doesn't believe in them. He's got a wife and kids too! To hand your notice in over that and at a time when jobs are being shed all over the place is probably the maddest thing I've heard about during this. It's actually quite sad because he's had his brains turned to mush by a load of anti vax/5g type bollocks he's read about on facebook. In fact I think he's in the camp that covid-19 is all a government hoax
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Whenever I see posts like this, I am shocked, it's as if I am living in a totally different world, it's just about 100% around here since it became mandatory - that includes supermarkets, local shops, a few other shops I've been in, and the bank. Also the same on the buses. People are largely still socially distancing too, even at level crossings, people queue around 2m apart.
Maybe this is helping to keep our inflection rate low, 0.3 cases per 100,000 in the last week, compared to the national average of almost 12, and north of 50 in areas where there's some sort of local lockdown.
In fact I saw my first and only mask-less person* in a small shop yesterday.
ETA - * except staff behind screens.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Thing with anxiety and panic attacks is that there isn't really any rhyme or reason to them.
My friend went shopping the other day, she was wearing a mask, she got all her groceries, then while queieng for the till a panic attack came on and she had to abandon everything and get out of there to take her masks out.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Of course I understand that. If you're prone to anxiety and panic attacks then they're going to come out of no where anyway though, mask or no mask.
In a supermarket I'm less bothered by it because there's loads of space post lock down (something I hope remains) so can socially distance well. In a small shop like mine though you're not really gonna spend longer than 5 minutes tops in there but social distancing is nearly impossible and ventilation isn't that great.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Back home and mask wearing dropped noticeably in the last week. Not to mention a good percentage of people are wearing them incorrectly.
Really stunningly incomprehensible to me there's not been a public information broadcasting campaign about correct mask wearing and social distancing.
Really stunningly incomprehensible to me there's not been a public information broadcasting campaign about correct mask wearing and social distancing.
Maybe the government could pay people from Love Island to make Tiktok videos about it?
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Yes I noticed the lack of masks when I was there, to the point that I felt by wearing one I was clearly a tourist.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I feel like it was the opposite tbh, plenty of people on holiday wanting to not think about the pandemic. Chatting to a friend that lives there (who's originally from England) it brought out some nasty nationalist stuff in the last few months as well.
Steel Icarus
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
To me it feels like most people, including the government, have largely thrown their hands up and given up with day-to-day measures to curb the spread. Whether that changes over the winter if it gets bad again will be interesting. Friends in France say the same, everything is pretty much back to normal and there's few signs of previous measures being taken, even with their high rates of infection.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Well, that's not exactly great. Was the messaging a total shambles in France too?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Some day, someone will write a research paper on the human psychology aspects of all this. And I think we will realise, notwithstanding all the perfectly logical "why don't people just do X?" arguments, that the psychology is non-trivial, and profoundly (if indirectly) affects the rate of transmission, through things like non-compliance with mask wearing, social distancing, etc. It's not so much people being dicks as people being people. The only conscious element, really, is from those people who are self-aware enough to realise the ways in which their psychology is playing out in this situation.
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