Buddy Bradley
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When did we start this routine of drivers giving Oscar acceptance speeches over the radio after winning anything?
F1 2023
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1%er
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Some 5 second penalties to come in yet...
Lewis Hamilton and George Russell among eight drivers facing Qatar GP investigation
Mercedes duo Lewis Hamilton and George Russell were both placed under investigation for track limits violations during the sprint shootout in Qatar on Saturday afternoon. The seven-time world champion will roll off third place in Sunday's race but was still disappointed after qualifying on Friday. Discussing his session with Sky Sports F1, he said: "Not massively satisfied. It's just great for the team to be on the first two rows. Difficult at the beginning of the session, tricky conditions out there with the wind. Ultimately, a pretty average session for me. I'm going to give it everything and try and bag those points. It's great we are ahead of the Ferraris which is key."Unfortunately for Hamilton, the announcement of his post-session investigation wasn't where the drama ended for him on Saturday. The 38-year-old lost a lap time to track limits again in SQ2. The British pair were among eight drivers placed under investigation after the first part of the sprint shootout qualifying session with both Williams and AlphaTauri drivers, Lance Stroll and Pierre Gasly also falling foul of the regulations.
This has been just the latest in a long line of track limits-related issues at the Qatar Grand Prix this weekend with Friday's running proving so problematic that changes to the kerbs were made overnight. After losing a lap to track limits in SQ1, Hamilton is facing his second trip to the stewards in as many days after he was checked for a maximum lap time violation in qualifying on Friday.
1%er
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FIA Statement – Treatment of tyres
Following the standard analysis of tyres used during Free Practice 1 yesterday, in which tyres that have been used for approximately 20 laps are examined by Pirelli to check various safety parameters, a separation in the sidewall between the topping compound and the carcass cords on many of tyres that were checked was discovered.It is the view of the FIA and Pirelli that a significant number of additional laps on these tyres could result in circumferential damage of the tyres with subsequent air loss, and tyres analysed with lower lap numbers showed a much-reduced extent of the issue.
This issue has likely been caused by the high-frequency interference between the tyre sidewall and the 50mm ‘pyramid’ kerbs used extensively at this circuit, aggravated by the propensity to ride those kerbs.
The following actions will be taken on safety grounds in response to this issue:
- Track limits at Turns 12-13 will be revised.
- There will be a 10-minute Practice Familiarisation Session, scheduled to start at 16:00 local time, following the revision of the track limits, to allow drivers to adjust to the changes. The Sprint Shootout will therefore start 20 minutes later than scheduled (16:20 local time).
- There will extensive tyre analysis following the Sprint (19 laps), to decide whether further action needs to be taken ahead of the Grand Prix.
- In the event the problem is still evident, we will be issuing the following directive for Sunday’s Grand Prix, on safety grounds:
- The tyre life parameter must not exceed 20 for new tyres used in the race. This number would rise to 22 for any used tyres fitted in the race, to account for in-out laps in qualifying.
- All drivers will be obliged to perform at least three tyre-change pitstops during the race.
Pirelli and the FIA will carry out extensive research and simulations in order to establish with complete confidence the reasons behind this issue, and to work on solutions to avoid it in the future.
Update:
Due to the frequency of Safety Car interventions in yesterday’s Sprint, the tyre data available for analysis by Pirelli was insufficient to add to that already undertaken following previous track sessions.In some cases, tyres that were analysed from the Sprint did show the initial onset of the separation in the sidewall between the topping compound and the carcass cords of the tyres.
As was the case in Free Practice 1, this issue has likely been caused by the high-frequency interference between the tyre sidewall and the 50mm ‘pyramid’ kerbs used extensively at this circuit, aggravated by the propensity to ride those kerbs.
As a consequence, it has been decided by the FIA and Pirelli and after consultation with the teams on safety grounds, the following measures will be implemented for today’s Qatar Grand Prix:
- A mandatory limit of 18 laps of total tyre life per set will be imposed.
- The life of already used tyres will be taken into consideration.
- The FIA and Pirelli will communicate to the teams the remaining available laps for each set of used tyres at their disposal for the race and the criteria used to calculate that number.
- There is no direct mandate for at least three tyre-change pitstops during the race, however this will be a consequence of the above guidelines should the race run its entire race distance.
- Any car deemed to have exceeded the tyre life lap limit will be reported to the Stewards as being run in an unsafe condition.
- This information will be formally communicated to the teams in the Race Directors’ notes and further updates issued as required.
1%er
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Perez hit with pitlane start for Qatar GP after sprint crash
Sergio Perez will start the Qatar Grand Prix from the pitlane after Red Bull replaced power unit parts beyond the specified allocation following the Mexican’s crash during Saturday’s sprint. Perez was involved in a collision with Alpine’s Esteban Ocon and the Haas of Nico Hulkenberg during the 19-lap event at the Lusail International Circuit. The incident resulted in the team opting to fit a new power unit inside the RB19, with Perez taking a fifth internal combustion engine, turbocharger, MGU-H, and MGU-K, when only four are permitted during a season, as well as a fourth control electronics, with just two allowed over the course of a campaign.It means Perez, who had qualified a lowly 13th, now takes the mandatory penalty of a pitlane start. The chassis of the RB19 also sustained significant damage from the crash, forcing the team to carry out repairs beyond the specified time frame, with an investigation ongoing. A statement from the FIA’s F1 technical delegate Jo Bauer read: “Last night the Oracle Red Bull Racing team worked on car number 11, chassis 02, two hours after the chequered flag of the sprint. Chassis 01 got damaged beyond repair during the accident in the sprint. Chassis 01 and all other components fitted to it at the time of the sprint were covered on time at 23.08, two hours after the chequered flag was shown at the end of the sprint. As chassis 02 was assembled without supervision to more than an assembly comprising a survival cell as defined in SR (sporting regulations) article 27.2, this has to be considered as a third car available to the competitor. A self-declared scrutineering sheet for car 11, chassis 02, was submitted at 14:05 today, 55 minutes before the covers-off time. As this is not in compliance with SR Articles 27.2, 40.3, and 40.6 as well as TD021G, I am referring this matter to the stewards for their consideration.”
1%er
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Starting grid for 2023 F1 Qatar Grand Prix
1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull
2 George RUSSELL Mercedes
3 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes
4 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin
5 Charles LECLERC Ferrari
6 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren
7 Pierre GASLY Alpine
8 Esteban OCON Alpine
9 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo
10 Lando NORRIS McLaren
11 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri
12 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari
13 Alexander ALBON Williams
14 Nico HULKENBERG Haas
15 Logan SARGEANT Williams
16 Lance STROLL Aston Martin
17 Liam LAWSON AlphaTauri
18 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas
19 ZHOU Guanyu Alfa Romeo
Pit lane Sergio PEREZ Red Bull
1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull
2 George RUSSELL Mercedes
3 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes
4 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin
5 Charles LECLERC Ferrari
6 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren
7 Pierre GASLY Alpine
8 Esteban OCON Alpine
9 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo
10 Lando NORRIS McLaren
11 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri
12 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari
13 Alexander ALBON Williams
14 Nico HULKENBERG Haas
15 Logan SARGEANT Williams
16 Lance STROLL Aston Martin
17 Liam LAWSON AlphaTauri
18 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas
19 ZHOU Guanyu Alfa Romeo
Pit lane Sergio PEREZ Red Bull
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1%er
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Loads of links here if anyone needs a link
Limejuice
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Limejuice
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This race could easily become a coronation procession. At least shaking the dice with some compulsory tyre changes might add some spark to the race.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Exactly - going to be a lot of team radio about drivers bring brought in at the wrong time, I suspect.
1%er
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If I was Red Bull I want Max to run away out front from the start, then pit early to avoid getting held up by others in the pit lane and win yet another race
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
120k apparently, (all weekend), so my google skills may have been lacking last night.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
ffs Mercedes, seriously?
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Lewis "I got taken out" after he cuts him up. Not often you see him making such a stupid mistake.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
team mates trying to confirm dominance within the team normally end with shite like this
see Nico/ Lewis shenanigans
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I have been harbouring dark thoughts that Lewis is past his best generally.
I hope not, would love to see an 8th WC.
