F1 2022
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Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
He's so impressive in difficult situations.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Lewis and Max not very talkative when left alone in the cooldown room. 
Limejuice
Well-Known Member
I bet if you'd offered Toto a 3 and 4 before the race, he'd have taken your hand off.
See you in two week for the race @Le Castellet
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
hmm I've heard now tv is doing a better deal for sky sports that virgin or sky alone
aside from that look for vpn and get f1 tv whilst pretending to be back in a country that supports it
its that or risk a stream, used to used them all the time and if you get a good one its fine
but can also be frustrating as it hit and miss as its free
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I got a deal on now tv at the beginning of the season. £20 a month. Downside is no recording so if you miss it you need to watch a replay. At the time they decide
Not sure how you’d get on as a new subscriber now. Might be a discount code available on the internet somewhere.
Not sure how you’d get on as a new subscriber now. Might be a discount code available on the internet somewhere.
1%er
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Vijay Mallya from F1’s King of Good Times to Jail Time
Today India’s Supreme Court sentenced tycoon Vijay Mallya to four months in jail for refusing to disclose his assets after defaulting on a loan of 90 billion rupees ($1.13 billion) since the collapse of his defunct Kingfisher Airlines.The high-living tycoon, with interests that ranged from the Force India F1 team, through aviation to liquor empires, is now a fugitive in Britain while Indian prosecutors and legal teams battle to extradite him so that he will serve time for all he robbed from. Mallya has refused to appear before the court in his home country, despite several summonses. Hence, the court found him guilty of contempt for not obeying its orders and imposed a fine of 2,000 rupees. His legal team had not commented at the time of writing. Lawyers representing the lenders have said Mallya transferred $40-million to members of his family even though the bank loan remains unpaid.
The court has also set a four-week deadline for Mallya and his family to deposit $40 million, along with the accrued interest, or face further legal action. Mallya, who also co-owned the Formula 1 motor racing team Force India until 2019, has denied all wrongdoing and has previously said the case against him is politically motivated. During his decade-long tenure as a team owner, Mallya was known as the king of Good Times, hosting lavish parties during the course of race seasons, the highlight being his Monaco Grand Prix weekend party aboard the Indian Empress; the hottest ticket at the time for the wanna-be-seen F1 crowd. Sumptuous parties attracting A-Listers, VVIPs, royals and the like, quaffing high-end liquor and munching five-star delicacies all, of course, made possible by money pilfered from Mallya’s various schemes, which have now come back to haunt him. Mallya features in the Netflix series Bad Boy Billionaires: India. An episode dedicated to his shenanigans is titled: “Beer baron and airline owner Vijay Mallya builds a brand image of excess till his Kingfisher empire plunges into alleged money laundering and debt.”
Timeline of Vijay’s downfall from King of Good Times to Fugitive:
March 9, 2016: Mallya flees India
Mallya secretly left India after a huge debt to a consortium of 17 banks. The flamboyant business tycoon who was always known for his “King Size” image fled to London.
April 2016: MEA revokes Vijay Mallya’s passport
The Ministry of External Affairs announced that it has revoked the passport of Mallya, the wanted boss of Kingfisher Airlines, starting the process of bringing him back to India.
April 2016: ED approaches Special court seeking Red Corner notice
The Enforcement Directorate moved a special court trying cases under PMLA Act for a non-bailable warrant and Red Corner notice against Mallya. Hiten Venegavkar, the advocate for the ED, said he was summoned thrice by the agency to record his statement but he failed to appear.
April 2017: Mallya arrested in London over India’s extradition request
The boss of the now-defunct Kingfisher Airlines – a prominent sponsor of Mallya’s F1 team – was arrested by Scotland Yard in London upon India’s request to extradite the ‘international businessman’ from Britain. He was released on bail a few hours after arrest.
May 2018: UK court refuses to overturn worldwide order on freezing assets
Mallya lost a lawsuit filed by 13 Indian banks in the UK High Court seeking to collect from him more than $1.55 billion. Judge Andrew Henshaw refused to overturn a worldwide order freezing of his assets and upheld an Indian court’s ruling that the banks were entitled to recover funds.
October 2018: London court orders sale of six luxury cars owned by Mallya
In an effort to pay back a part of the money that Mallya owes to banks in India, a London court ordered the sale of 6 of the businessman’s luxury cars, and its proceedings were sent to the banks in question. Justice Cockerill, who passed this order from the London Court, noted that the enforcement officers are at liberty to sell six cars.
December 10, 2018: UK court orders extradition of Mallya
A court in the United Kingdom ordered the extradition of fugitive liquor baron who faces a case of loan default to the tune of tens of millions of dollars besides allegations of money laundering. Mallya had contested his extradition on the grounds that the case against him was “politically motivated”.
January 2019: Special PMLA court declares Mallya a ‘fugitive economic offender’
Special Prevention of Money Laundering (PMLA) judge MS Azmi in his oral order declared Mallya, a fugitive economic offender under Section 12 of the act, on a plea of Enforcement Directorate (ED). This was the second consecutive blow to him after the extradition order.
February 2019: UK Home Secretary orders Mallya’s extradition to India
On February 3, the Secretary of State, having carefully considered all relevant matters, signed the order for his extradition to India. “Vijay Mallya is accused in India of conspiracy to defraud, making false representations and money laundering offenses,” the spokesperson said.
April 2020: Royal Courts of Justice quashes Mallya’s plea against extradition
The Royal Courts of Justice in the United Kingdom on April 20 dismissed fugitive Indian businessman Mallya’s appeal against the 2018 extradition order by a lower court in the country.
July 2021: Mallya declared bankrupt
A British court granted a bankruptcy order against Mallya, paving the way for a consortium of Indian banks led by the SBI to pursue a worldwide freezing order to seek repayment of debt owed by the now-defunct Kingfisher Airlines.
January 2022: Mallya loses London home
He lost a legal battle to hold on to his plush London home after a British court refused to grant him a stay of enforcement in a long-running dispute with Swiss bank UBS. The 18/19 Cornwall Terrace luxury apartment overlooking Regent’s Park in London, described in court as an “extraordinarily valuable property worth many tens of millions of pounds, is currently being occupied by Mallya’s 95-year-old mother Lalitha
July 2022: Mallya sentenced to four months in jail
A week after a sheepish Mallya weaved his way to greet old ‘pals’ on the Silverstone grid – during the British Grand Prix weekend the only F1 race he can attend – his woes mounted. Today he was served a jail sentence for refusing to disclose his assets after defaulting on a loan of 90 billion rupees ($1.13 billion).
[He won’t serve the time unless the UK agrees to extradite him to India, to face his accusers. But he is currently trying to overturn his bankruptcy order here in the UK. According to court documents he has applied for a "confidential hearing" to discuss other legal matters, it is believed this is an asylum application. How he can claim asylum in the UK is beyound me, but I expect he'll get it as he has powerful friends. Lets not forget this man didn't just rob banks he has stolen the pensions of hundreds of his ex-employees. If you are someone who writes emails to your MP please send one pointing out how this cunt has stolen millions from poor working people in India and should not be given Asylum in the UK. Thanks in advance.]
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
More on the scumbags at the race.
www.theguardian.com
Reacting to the incidents, Hamilton’s team principal at Mercedes, Toto Wolff, was also blunt in his condemnation. “We just need to target these guys and pick them out,” he said. “This is what Formula One has said and we have said and that you need to report to the security if you can. And whoever reads my sentence: stay away, we don’t want you if you are part of that group. Fuck off.”
Mercedes and Hamilton were particularly distressed at the experience of one fan who contacted them. Her words were published on Twitter. She described: “five Dutch Max fans lifted up my dress and when I confronted them they said that no Hamilton fan deserves any respect at all”. Mercedes contacted the woman in question and brought her to their garage to ensure her safety for the race.
Horrible cunts.
Lewis Hamilton condemns reports of sexist and racist harassment of F1 fans
Formula One has condemned the harassment of fans in Austria, reacting to reports on social media of sexist catcalling, racist and homophobic abuse and inappropriate touching of female fans
Reacting to the incidents, Hamilton’s team principal at Mercedes, Toto Wolff, was also blunt in his condemnation. “We just need to target these guys and pick them out,” he said. “This is what Formula One has said and we have said and that you need to report to the security if you can. And whoever reads my sentence: stay away, we don’t want you if you are part of that group. Fuck off.”
Mercedes and Hamilton were particularly distressed at the experience of one fan who contacted them. Her words were published on Twitter. She described: “five Dutch Max fans lifted up my dress and when I confronted them they said that no Hamilton fan deserves any respect at all”. Mercedes contacted the woman in question and brought her to their garage to ensure her safety for the race.
Horrible cunts.
1%er
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Being reported in the Netherlands
Multiple women who attended the Formula 1 race in Austria have accused mainly Dutch fans at the race of reprehensible behavior, including sexual harassment, racism, and homophobia. The Formula 1 organization confirmed receiving complaints.
Women shared their experiences on social media after a female fan invited to the Mercedes garage space experienced severe harassment. Drunk onlookers pulled up her dress, told her she deserved no respect because she was a Hamilton fan, and catcalled her the entire way, according to Parool. “We found out that this happened, and that’s just not okay,’ Mercedes team principal Toto Wolf said. “This has to stop. If you are a Formula 1 fan, for any team or driver, you cannot be racist, sexist, or homophobic. Then you don’t fit in Formula 1, and we don’t want you.”
His statement sparked a floodgate of women sharing their experiences on Twitter. “The behavior has been… disappointing,” one said. “My expectations were low, but holy cow. Racist, homophobic slurs, cat calling, inappropriate talking, and touching. The list goes on. Genuinely had to fight off a panic attack and not cry the whole walk back to the exit because I was scared,” another woman wrote. “We’re coming back for the race, but we are never coming back to this Grand Prix ever again, and that’s a promise.”
“I’m at the circuit too, and I’ve seen horrible things. The girl that sells ice cream (that is WORKING) gets harassed by older drunk men without pause. It’s horrendous. I heard all kinds of swearing but also the n-word, which triggered me extremely. I think this is unacceptable, and I”m full of shame for the Austrian GP and their so-called fans.”
A Max Verstappen fan who attended the Austrian Grand Prix last year pointed out that this is not isolated to only this year’s race. “Every time a woman or girl walked by in front of the grandstand, there would be catcalls, whistling, etc.” She even saw fathers with their children chanting “there should be a dick in that” at women walking by. “And I’m sure most meant it as a joke, but when you’re chanting this at young girls, it’s likely not a joke to them. And it’s not like it were just a few people. No, it was like 50% of the grandstand.”
According to Parool, the race at the Red Bull Ring in Spielberg has become known as a Grand Prix overrun by Dutch Max Verstappen fans, primarily men. They sleep at one of the large campsites near the circuit and party in the days leading up to the GP.
In a response on Twitter, the Formula 1 organization confirmed receiving complaints. “We have been made aware of reports that some fans have been subject to completely unacceptable comments by others at the Austrian Grand Prix. We take these matters very seriously,” the organization said. “This kind of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.”
Verstappen’s team, Red Bull, also responded. “We are shocked to hear that there have been incidents of completely unacceptable behavior in the grandstands and the fan parks,” the team said on Twitter. “There is no place for it in racing or society as a whole. We value inclusion and want a safe space for fans to enjoy our sport.
Multiple women who attended the Formula 1 race in Austria have accused mainly Dutch fans at the race of reprehensible behavior, including sexual harassment, racism, and homophobia. The Formula 1 organization confirmed receiving complaints.
Women shared their experiences on social media after a female fan invited to the Mercedes garage space experienced severe harassment. Drunk onlookers pulled up her dress, told her she deserved no respect because she was a Hamilton fan, and catcalled her the entire way, according to Parool. “We found out that this happened, and that’s just not okay,’ Mercedes team principal Toto Wolf said. “This has to stop. If you are a Formula 1 fan, for any team or driver, you cannot be racist, sexist, or homophobic. Then you don’t fit in Formula 1, and we don’t want you.”
His statement sparked a floodgate of women sharing their experiences on Twitter. “The behavior has been… disappointing,” one said. “My expectations were low, but holy cow. Racist, homophobic slurs, cat calling, inappropriate talking, and touching. The list goes on. Genuinely had to fight off a panic attack and not cry the whole walk back to the exit because I was scared,” another woman wrote. “We’re coming back for the race, but we are never coming back to this Grand Prix ever again, and that’s a promise.”
“I’m at the circuit too, and I’ve seen horrible things. The girl that sells ice cream (that is WORKING) gets harassed by older drunk men without pause. It’s horrendous. I heard all kinds of swearing but also the n-word, which triggered me extremely. I think this is unacceptable, and I”m full of shame for the Austrian GP and their so-called fans.”
A Max Verstappen fan who attended the Austrian Grand Prix last year pointed out that this is not isolated to only this year’s race. “Every time a woman or girl walked by in front of the grandstand, there would be catcalls, whistling, etc.” She even saw fathers with their children chanting “there should be a dick in that” at women walking by. “And I’m sure most meant it as a joke, but when you’re chanting this at young girls, it’s likely not a joke to them. And it’s not like it were just a few people. No, it was like 50% of the grandstand.”
According to Parool, the race at the Red Bull Ring in Spielberg has become known as a Grand Prix overrun by Dutch Max Verstappen fans, primarily men. They sleep at one of the large campsites near the circuit and party in the days leading up to the GP.
In a response on Twitter, the Formula 1 organization confirmed receiving complaints. “We have been made aware of reports that some fans have been subject to completely unacceptable comments by others at the Austrian Grand Prix. We take these matters very seriously,” the organization said. “This kind of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.”
Verstappen’s team, Red Bull, also responded. “We are shocked to hear that there have been incidents of completely unacceptable behavior in the grandstands and the fan parks,” the team said on Twitter. “There is no place for it in racing or society as a whole. We value inclusion and want a safe space for fans to enjoy our sport.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Fucksakes, I was looking at the build up and thought it would be a nice race to do as it is in such a lovely part of the world but fuck that. I imagine they're not much better at Spa?
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
But is this an Austrian or Dutch phenomenon? If it’s the Verstappen fans then why are we only hearing about it happening in Austria - when Max’s fans seem to go in large numbers to most European GPs?
Or is there something about the way the Red Bull Ring is run which either encourages or allows this kind of thing to emerge? I wonder why we have only heard condemnation from F1 and Merc, not a whisper from Red Bull or Max?
Or is there something about the way the Red Bull Ring is run which either encourages or allows this kind of thing to emerge? I wonder why we have only heard condemnation from F1 and Merc, not a whisper from Red Bull or Max?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Max did condemn it at the post race conference and RB put this tweet out.
www.autosport.com
Verstappen condemns "shocking" fan harassment, Wolff tells abusers to stay at home
Formula 1 world champion Max Verstappen condemned the “shocking” harassment reported by spectators at the Austrian Grand Prix, while Mercedes boss Toto Wolff told abusive fans to “stay at home.”
www.autosport.com
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I laughed at this thread. What would F1 drivers look like if they went to NASCAR.
1%er
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Masi: A 'pleasure and honour' to represent FIA in F1
Michael Masi says representing the FIA in Formula 1 was a "pleasure and honour" in his first comments since departing. The former race director was relieved of his roles in F1 before this season amid the fallout from last year's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, where an investigation concluded he made a "human error" in his handling of a late Safety Car period at Yas Marina. Of course, Masi's decisions had a major impact on the outcome of the championship as Max Verstappen overtook Lewis Hamilton in a final lap shootout to win it all.Seven months on, Masi has now decided to leave the FIA altogether and spoke highly of his time with the governing body. “It has been a pleasure and honour representing the FIA as the single-seater sporting director and FIA Formula 1 race director and safety delegate since Charlie [Whiting’s] unexpected and tragic passing in Melbourne 2019," he said in a statement. “Having worked on various projects around the world with the Federation and its member clubs for over a decade prior to my appointment, I have now decided to leave the organisation and relocate back to Australia to be closer to my family and friends. I am proud to have worked in partnership for many years with the various FIA member clubs, Formula 1 Group, the competitors, promoters and circuit operators and my colleagues and team internally at the FIA. I will always treasure these lifelong relationships and friendships I have developed throughout my journey to date. In particular, I am eternally grateful to Herbie Blash and the late Charlie Whiting for identifying me as a future successor in 2018, a role I was looking forward to shadowing and learning from Charlie for many years prior to his shock passing. I also pass on my sincere appreciation for the support and guidance during my tenure of the former FIA president Jean Todt, Stefano Domenicali and my dedicated FIA Single Seater team," he continued. “I extend my appreciation to the tens of thousands of dedicated volunteers and officials that allow motorsport to happen each and every day around the world, as the safety of the competitors and officials has always remained my highest priority. Thank you to the FIA president, Mohammed Ben Sulayem and his presidential team for their personal support since their appointment and I wish them the best for the future."
Though Masi did not comment on Abu Dhabi or the fallout since, his final sentence praised those thank those who stood by him. “The personal support of my family, friends and colleagues globally during this journey and particularly in the last few months can only be described as overwhelming and something I will forever cherish,” he concluded.
1%er
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New FIA rule
The FIA has announced they will introduce new measures to control porpoising from next season in a move which could favour Mercedes stars Lewis Hamilton and George Russell. The Silver Arrows have been one of the most affected by porpoising this season with Hamilton complaining of back pains at the Azerbaijan Grand Prix. The new changes will mean teams must raise the floor edges of their cars by at least 25mm for next season. Manufacturers will also have to raise the underfloor diffuser and will be subject to more stringent lateral floor deflection tests.A new sensor to measure oscillations will also be introduced to stop any team from running their cars too low to the ground. The FIA said that although major issues had been reported in recent Grands Prix, the nature of the circuits means they were not expected to cause problems anyway. But, they warn there will be races in the coming months where more porpoising is “expected” to be an issue. The FIA even stressed there could be a “worsening” of the porpoising effects once engineers find more downforce for their cars.
Drivers will need to stiffen their plank skids as a short-term fix from the Belgian Grand Prix. A new metric to measure the amount of bouncing will also come into force from Spa with drivers able to trial this at next weekend’s French Grand Prix. However, officials stressed these temporary fixes were not considered to be a valid long-term solution to the problem. The new measures will be approved shortly so teams can redesign their cars in time for the next season after a Technical Advisory Committee meeting was held between the FIA, Formula 1 and the Technical Directors of all 10 F1 teams on Thursday.
A statement from the FIA added the decisions had been made for “safety” purposes. They reiterated the verdict had been reached without being influenced by any team's competitive instincts after some manufacturers hit back over any possible rules updates. The statement read: “The FIA reaffirmed its strong commitment to reduce and hopefully eliminate the issue in the near term, as it is considered to be a significant safety matter. It is the responsibility and the prerogative of the FIA to intervene for safety matters, and the reason the regulations allow such measures to be taken is precisely to allow decisions to be taken without being influenced by the competitive position each team may find themselves in.”
Limejuice
Well-Known Member
Here's a slightly depressing article about Liberty Media's fixation with conquering America.
The article misses two key points:
www.economist.com
The article misses two key points:
- The race tracks at new locations are mostly shite for racing, and
- There's a limit to the number of races the teams can physically manage.
From Monaco to Miami: Formula 1 bids to crack America
The track is testing and the competition fierce, but it’s determined to try
