ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
There are some vile comments on there.
Drag Queen Story Times picketed by protestors who claim that it grooms children and promotes paedophilia
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cesare
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That was interesting! Also a link from you in that thread to a previous one!
Well my opinion about Burchill hasn’t changed I’m pleased to say.
What I do notice from that thread and an earlier one https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/drag-queens-the-black-and-white-minstrels-of-misogyny.36319/ was a few posters who had been to drag performances saying they had encountered at some of them misogyny (along the lines of ‘ooh smells like fish’). There is also misogyny on display and mostly unchallenged on both of those threads btw.
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cesare
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And transphobia
Which were the posts where the transphobia and misogyny not picked up, btw?
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SpookyFrank
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That's a bit of a reach, surely.
Burchill is far from the only one to come out with it, sadly.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
See also the not-so subtle headline in yesterday's Telegraph shoehorning trans people into the fact that Nick Cohen's being investigated over sexual harassment allegations going back years. Had absolutely nothing to do with trans people, and they didn't even go on to say what the allegations were about, just "allegations."
Yes because gender is a set of socially imposed expectations based on assigned sex. And any deviation or non-conformity from that is socially punished, as we can see with these protests. That's how gender works, and how it functions as a system of male domination over women.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
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He takes intermittent breaks from the boards I think
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Why Do Anti-Vaxxers Hate Drag Queens?
Byline Times and The Citizens expose how the far-right has recruited anti-vaxxers to new, hateful causes
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Why Do Anti-Vaxxers Hate Drag Queens?
Byline Times and The Citizens expose how the far-right has recruited anti-vaxxers to new, hateful causes
I've just posted that on the 'UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots' thread, good article, well worth a read.
There's some stuff about the Brighton demo on that thread, including Piers 'the prick' Corbyn has turned-up.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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8ball
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I've just posted that on the 'UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots' thread, good article, well worth a read.
There's some stuff about the Brighton demo on that thread, including Piers 'the prick' Corbyn has turned-up.
It's... ok. The right have always been happy to associate based on expediency.
Christ these people are absolutely batshitWhy Do Anti-Vaxxers Hate Drag Queens?
Byline Times and The Citizens expose how the far-right has recruited anti-vaxxers to new, hateful causes
Athos
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Is also bizarre how people don't even think to fact-check the most basic things when they align with their prejudices e.g. the meaning of brown stripe in the progress flag.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Agreed - I hoped I made that clear in my first post.
8ball
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A sextuple bluff?
I think if you said the word “sextuple” to him, he’d start raving about banning it.
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What did they say it was for?
I saw somewhere it was something to do with brown gay people, which sort of implies the “gay” bit doesn’t obviously cover them, which seems kind of dumb.
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spring-peeper
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goggle says this about the brown stripe
The colors black and brown were added to the Progress Pride Flag to represent people of color (POC). This was an important addition because people of color have often been left out of the queer narrative despite being the driving force behind the movement.
The colors black and brown were added to the Progress Pride Flag to represent people of color (POC). This was an important addition because people of color have often been left out of the queer narrative despite being the driving force behind the movement.
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Not really sure how to deal with that.
Is that an accusation of racism towards the gay liberation movement?
Athos
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The claimed it was for scat fetishism.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Really? I thought the brown stripe represented the Bear community? i.e. husky men with body hair, not furries or actual bears.
l'Otters
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I remember the video to Sweet Dreams came out when I was 5 and seeing Annie Lennox with that suit and orange haircut was really significant. In a way I didn’t have any words for, so I didn’t verbalise it to anyone.
There are a couple of parallels with Islamophobia imo:
- to say drag is unrelated to being gay -- and therefore criticism of it cannot be homophobic -- is the same as saying "criticizing Islam cannot be racist because Islam is a religion". Not to say there are never any legitimate criticisms of either, but....
- any legitimate issues (misogyny/homophobia) have to be solved (and are being solved) by people within the communities, not ignorant people from outside the communities.
- they are both not a simple fixed idea that remains the same over space and time. They are massively complex schemas whose meaning varies from place to place, person to person, culture to culture, and constantly evolving.
- to say drag is unrelated to being gay -- and therefore criticism of it cannot be homophobic -- is the same as saying "criticizing Islam cannot be racist because Islam is a religion". Not to say there are never any legitimate criticisms of either, but....
- any legitimate issues (misogyny/homophobia) have to be solved (and are being solved) by people within the communities, not ignorant people from outside the communities.
- they are both not a simple fixed idea that remains the same over space and time. They are massively complex schemas whose meaning varies from place to place, person to person, culture to culture, and constantly evolving.
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