Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I reckon I will get away with using the excuse "conseil du médecin" (doctor's advice) - the French are big on health - to the extent that I'm tempted to grow excess gourmet salad to sell in the market ...
And where I'm heading even has a Lidl - and you can get soya milk in Carrefour - though it's the posh stuff ..
http://www.carrefour.fr/search/site/soja/31?sort=1199
All has to be "bio" - the yoghurt looks suspiciously dairy ..
But socialising will be a challenge - I may have to hire a caterer for my "pendaison de crémaillère" (housewarming).
I plan to ingratiate myself with as many locals as possible right from the start.
I will make sure I learn to make vegan buckwheat crêpes - since I'm aiming for Brittany.
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
there's that "normal" again!
how about you do what the fuck you want and not have a go at others for doing what they want with diet and ethical choices
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
We all take supplements through our food - B12 injections are given to cattle as mentioned above, and also flour is heavily fortified with vitamins and minerals. One of the main reasons a gluten free diet is sometimes thought of as less healthy is because it lacks these added supplements. You take supplements, they are just hidden in your food.
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Exactly. I often wonder how those that are critical of veg*ns conveniently overlook this. Unless you are living out in nature, there is a high chance that your diet will have or require some kind of supplementation, either directly or indirectly.
One reason the Brits are tad shy at adding bit D to foodstuffs (something the yanks are not shy of at all) is they added via D to baby food in the fifties and way way to much, kids were getting vit D overdose symptoms.It a shame really as to get into a overdose situation with Vit D you'd need to eat industrial amounts over a period of months, most of the UK population is either deficient or not optimal .Although research is a bit thin on the ground latest ideas show via D could protect you against a wide range of diseases.
PS I wouldn't worry about getting an overdose if you take a supplement and then spend long hours in the sun, one you have a optimal level of it your skin just stops absorbing it.
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Carrefour is like the Tesco of Europe and they have them everywhere. As with nearly all modern supermarkets, even the likes of Aldi and Lidl, you can find nearly any kind of food you want. I used to try and seek out the smaller independent stores, however I think they are a dying breed and are getting squeezed out by the supermarkets and Holland and Barrett type shops. In the late nineties I had to make a special trip to Westbourne Grove to Planet Organic which was at the time the only organic supermarket in the UK (or so they said), now they're all over the place, now you've got As Nature Intended, WholeFoolds, Grape Trees, all over the shop, so there has been a lot of progress and long may it continue.
I believe the same thing will eventually happen in France and other "backward" countries.tbh, I haven't found socialising to be too much of a problem but then I don't hang out with too many people and quite like my own company. It's a bit like going to the pub with friends when you don't drink alcohol, it appears to be more of an issue for the drinkers and meateaters than it is for me ("b...b...but why don't you drink, why don't you eat meat, what's wrong with you?"). They're more often than not the ones feeling unnecessarily awkward on my behalf. If I can get away with it, and depending on the situation I try to avoid mentioning it, but that can be quite hard because people start asking questions based on what they see you ordering.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fresh 
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Naw, he's really not that hot. Vegan bodybuilding is a "thing" right now.
14 Vegan Bodybuilders That Will Make You Re-Think Meat
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Watermelon Man
Member
Why is this even news? I know it's that rag...and it shouldn't be taken seriously. But the facts are that meat is laden with fat, eggs are full of cholesterol and dairy is puss filled fatty minging nonsense. Of course your spots are going to go. Of course you are going to get lean. Eat less saturated fat get shredded.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Watermelon Man
Member
Yeah, dairy is just filled with pus. Just like how wheat is filled with bird and rodent shit as well as insect parts.
Legally companies are allowed a certain amount of pus in dairy. Can't remember the exact amount.
Watermelon Man
Member
Cow's milk can legally contain up to 400 million pus cells/litre. You are what you eat.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Yet amazingly millions of people drink it with no taste issues or side effects whatsoever. It's almost as if it's utterly irrelevant.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I beg to differ on the taste issues. I've tasted raw milk and it tastes better than pasteurized. As does cheese made from it. Pasteurization kills the taste of milk (and the pathogens), but we really couldn't do raw milk on a large scale because of the illness that would result.
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Watermelon Man
Member
No side effects whatsoever? Science says otherwise...
Dairy associated with increased risk of a wide-ranging group of ailments including accelerated aging, being overweight, kidney stones, childhood asthma, constipation, prediabetes and diabetes, prostate and other cancers, heart disease, imbalanced hormones, Parkinson’s disease, rheumatoid arthritis, rising blood pressure, skin wrinkling, sudden infant death syndrome, ulcerative colitis, bacterial vaginosis and multiple sclerosis.
High in saturated fat, low in antioxidants and fibre. Contains cholesterol, trans fats, endotoxins and choline and may raise the risk of inflamation, heart disease, diabetes and certain cancers.
May promote acne and contribute risk of breast cancer, prostate cancer, other hormone dependent cancers, declining sperm counts and heart disease.
Going on a big family holiday in couple of weeks with my vegan partner. Lots of 'ribbing' in the whatsapp group about veggie shopping ...aaaand the bulshit around burning a bit of meat on a BBQ is so ridiculous you'd think they clubbed a fucking bear to death with their flaccid cocks and ripped the fur off with their teeth. I never bring up what I eat for banter, however last year I knocked out an awesome vegan meal for 14, which went down a storm. Except the cock that got up and bbqed a steak for himself as if to show he was the most committed BBQ cook.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I think you'll find that the amounts are minute, like with contamination with animal shit and insect parts. As arguments for veganism go it's really shit because it applies to pretty much any food. There are much better arguments for not eating meat, which is why I think you're stirring shit.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
So that means you're rat shit?
I remember back in the days when this thread looked as if there might be some dialogue. Fair play to you for giving up any pretence, mind, WM 
You kept it up for a good two or three pages. (Well, tbf, you were away for about twenty pages, but the principle holds )
You kept it up for a good two or three pages. (Well, tbf, you were away for about twenty pages, but the principle holds )14 anecdotes is definitely data
That must be, what? Seventy-five percent of the world's bodybuilders right there :coolthumbs:
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
14 anecdotes is definitely data
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Millions of people must be practically dead and just not know it
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