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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

It's quite a challenge trying to sort the wheat from the chaff. I leave the computer for the afternoon and all of a sudden the thread explodes with and gets filled mostly with CR's high pitch low quality heckling and screeching. I'm sure there are a few good posts hidden in there somewhere but I can't be arsed to sift through all the dross right now and I still haven't caught up with today's tennis and cricket. I might take a fresh look tomorrow to see if there's anything worth replying to, in the meantime here's a fitting musical interlude :-

 
Paulo ???

Oi...Paolo ??

Where did you go all of a sudden ?

Have you any idea why your mate paolo Sanchez went un characteristically silent all of a sudden ? He could talk the back legs off a donkey . A handier skill for a Portugese abattoir worker than a vegan I admit but still. His lengthy eloquence seems to have evaporated .

Is anything wrong ?

Well I'm not going to use it . Pretty sure the queen wouldn't approve either . And anyway ddraig wasn't using it right . He got it wrong .

Following me around again, pickman's? You sad cunt.
Some vegan left the farm gate open.
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hahahahahhaaaaa!!! What a numpty. This dude has completely lost the plot, like a madly obsessed psycho.
Dude you're an intellectually bankrupt trick pony. I have no idea what you're yakkin' on about and frankly you sound like a bit of an idiot not worth bothering with any more. If you're gonna chat shit, don't @ me.



Are there any good books you could recommend ?
 
I am too busy to read the rest of your posts. I am however, pretty sure they all match my preconceptions I Will now post a YouTube video.
 
It's quite a challenge trying to sort the wheat from the chaff. I leave the computer for the afternoon and all of a sudden the thread explodes with and gets filled mostly with CR's high pitch low quality heckling and screeching. I'm sure there are a few good posts hidden in there somewhere but I can't be arsed to sift through all the dross right now and I still haven't caught up with today's tennis and cricket. I might take a fresh look tomorrow to see if there's anything worth replying to, in the meantime here's a fitting musical interlude :-



Maybe I was a bit mean. No one's taking CR that seriously.

Carcass are a great band though, you should listen. A highpoint of the genre.
 
I regard personal experience and interaction as FAR more reliable and realistic than interactions with people on the internet, imo it's not even close. The internet is a haven for cowardly trolls who are free to say whatever they want under the cover of anonymity, things that they would never say in that way in a face to face situation.

It's ironic that you cite this very thread as your example of vegans behaving badly, lol. The bias is so strong. A proper unbiased audit of posts might give a more accurate and balanced picture. It would appear that whenever the topic is raised, that it is non vegans, who supposedly aren't particularly interested in the topic, but somehow manage to attach themselves like barnacles to the thread and swarm, sabotage and trash the threads with all sorts of rubbish and irrelevant diversions. (says he posting a long-ass reply). The "Who's replied" list for this thread is quite revealing.

I think it would be fantastic if it were possible to have real proper discussion on this topic in this forum for those that are genuinely interested, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Yeah, if you say so, or to coin that well known internet phrase "pics or it didn't happen". The internet is a ripe breeding ground for exaggeration and fabrication.

I have actually met many vegans in real life. I've been to various shows, talks, lectures, presentations and was one of the first members of the Fresh Network in the late nineties. I met Chrissie Hynde and Benjamin Z in Friends House in Holborn in the early noughties at a vegan festival, and myself and wife used to organise pot-lucks for the Fresh Network South West London area. I have even presented a talk myself at a Marcus Evans "Functional Foods" conference in Amsterdam 2007, it was a bit like a TED talk before TED became a thing. (and I was terrible, lol) I've met bare vegans. As far as I'm concerned that carries a lot more weight than interacting with anonymous and often obnoxious randoms on the internet.

The number of alleged bad experiences reported by non vegans is at odds with my real life interactions which is why I'm assuming that a fair number of them are straight up lies or at best exaggerations and misrepresentations.

Wow, "dat sample size doh", lol. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with these conveniently cherry picked anecdotes, but anyway seeing as you mentioned it, I also have an veggy anecdote of my own based in Stockholm where I worked for a couple of weeks on a project in December 2008. On my first day there I was invited to lunch with the team, they were going to a steakhouse which was apparently very good according to them. When lunchtime came and on the short walk to the eatery, one of the guys asked "you're not vegetarian are you?". "Actually, yes I am" I replied. "Yeah right", he said...and we carried on walking. I'm not sure what made him ask that question, but anyway when it was time to order, I had a plate of chips and an orange juice, and the dude that asked the question earlier, his jaw dropped. "So you really ARE vegetarian!". Apparently he didn't believe me and thought I was joking. He said I didn't look like a vegetarian (whatever one of those is supposed to look like). :rolleyes:

While I was there I definitely did not hit any plate glass windows with hockey sticks. I also remember some years previously working in Frankfurt and we had a team dinner in a some kind of meat place where it was literally only meat that was served, no side dishes, no potatoes, no salads, nada...just sizzling meat served on what looked like thick slabs of slate roof tiles. So I didn't eat anything and just had water or a soft drink. I have had so many REAL LIFE experiences and not just internet interactions, too many to mention including an attempt to order a salad in a snooty Paris restaurant during another team dinner and a leaving do at a Brazillian meat place in Plaza Mayor, Malaga. I won't bore you with any more.

I don't think I ever said that I have been abused, however I agree with veganomics that there does appear to be a rather unfriendly vibe. I have no idea about the history of beef in the forum between members, but regardless, imo it's a bit hypocritical to make such a big deal out of the use of the word "carnism" claiming that it's emotive, loaded and confrontational when the tone and language used and the relentless goading by those of your persuasion has been rather unfriendly. I don't really want to get into personalities here but I didn't think that anything that ddcraig posted in this thread merited some of the more ugly responses. It would probably be better for him if he was able to keep his cool and not rise to the taunts and sneers because it would appear that that's what the people trying to provoke want because then they can say "see look...proof right there...an angry vegan...told you so."
That was literally a "long ass" post, you weren't joking. I have not had the time to read all of it but from some of the things you've said our paths may have crossed at some point. I'll try to give it a proper read later.

My last post was on Thursday on page 22 (number 639). Since then there have been 170+ replies with very few (if any) proper "angry vegans" to be seen. My hunch is that all this "angry vegan" stuff stereotypical myth that some meat eaters desperately want to be true. A rather large helping of confirmation bias might be involved here. I will try to respond to some of the more decent posts sometime, hopefully there won't be as much "noise" and thread pollution from the "nutters" to wade through.
 
I will try to respond to some of the more decent posts sometime, hopefully there won't be as much "noise" and thread pollution from the "nutters" to wade through.
I'm sure there are a few good posts hidden in there somewhere but I can't be arsed to sift through all the dross right now and I still haven't caught up with today's tennis and cricket. I might take a fresh look tomorrow to see if there's anything worth replying to, in the meantime here's a fitting musical interlude :-
Gracious vegans :cool:
 
Maybe I was a bit mean. No one's taking CR that seriously.
What meanness did I miss? I haven't fully caught up with backlog. As far as CR is concerned, even the meatheads appear to be distancing themselves from him. The problem is that he appears to be one of those people who just gets in your face and sets up camp whether you want him to or not.

Carcass are a great band though, you should listen. A highpoint of the genre.
Oooh, not my cup of tea at all I'm afraid. I don't mind a bit of Deep Purple, Led Zep, Guns and Roses, ZZ Top and Eye of the tiger. That's about as metal as I get. Not feeling this thrash metal thing at all (if that's what the genre is called). Some of the band names and imagery don't help either, lol...



 
That was literally a "long ass" post, you weren't joking. I have not had the time to read all of it but from some of the things you've said our paths may have crossed at some point. I'll try to give it a proper read later.
Don't worry about it, you are not obliged to read or respond, although any quality replies would be gratefully received.

My last post was on Thursday on page 22 (number 639). Since then there have been 170+ replies with very few (if any) proper "angry vegans" to be seen. My hunch is that all this "angry vegan" stuff stereotypical myth that some meat eaters desperately want to be true. A rather large helping of confirmation bias might be involved here. I will try to respond to some of the more decent posts sometime, hopefully there won't be as much "noise" and thread pollution from the "nutters" to wade through.
Hahahaa, dude I was away from my pute for a few hours yesterday and CR appeared to have some kind of vegan induced fit. He's surely completely off his rocker, poor thing.

I agree with you about the mythical "angry vegan". They don't really exist in real life. Unfortunately some here believe youtube IS real life, lol.
 
Morning Vegans, have a blessed Monday.


lol, I was actually going to post that very video. Macka B should change his name to Macka BEAST! because he's a lyrical titan.



He doesn't mention food that much in this one but it's still a boom tune.
 
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I am too busy to read the rest of your posts. I am however, pretty sure they all match my preconceptions I Will now post a YouTube video.


Exactly how...in the name of all that's holy....are you supposed to get a lady friend up for a dance with that sort of shite ? It's atrocious .


 
No offence 2 anyone but I reckon vegans are a bunch of mentalists . Honestly...when you think about it, and look around ..it's impossible to escape the thought that says ..." what a bunch of wankers " .
 
well argued! :facepalm:
I'm assuming that there is consumption of alcohol involved in his replies, or maybe he's on drugs or something. Obsessively unhinged, not worth taking seriously, and I don't think many of his fellow meatheads to take him seriously. Comedy value only.
 
An irrelevant and diversionary question it would appear. Any chance of actually sticking to the and not going off on wild meaningless tangents?
Not really, this thread is done and dusted as far as discussion is concerned. As it was from the beginning really. Lbj has been trying to engage you and the other vegheads sensibly for ages and just been met with the usual pish and nonsense. Everyone's just taking the piss now.

So, are you the poster formerly known as Cosmic? You have a similar posting style.
 
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Not really, this thread is done and dusted as far as discussion is concerned. As it was from the beginning really. Lbj has been trying to engage you and the other vegheads sensibly for ages and just been met with the usual pish and nonsense. Everyone's just taking the piss now.
Yet another unbalanced and biased account. Both yourself and lbj, who are seem to be amongst the more sane contributors, appear to believe that unless somebody agrees with your proposal then they are unreasonable and so you throw your toys out of the pram and start complaining about terrible blood curdling words like the dreaded "carnist". The piss taking was there right from the beginning but your heavily blinkered vision appears to have stopped you from seeing anything wrong with the conduct of your fellow meatheads who have been the ones chiefly responsible for bombarded the thread with nonsense.

So, are you the poster formerly known as Cosmic? You have a similar posting style.
No!!!



You'll need another diversion now I suppose. :rolleyes:
 
Yet another unbalanced and biased account. Both yourself and lbj, who are seem to be amongst the more sane contributors, appear to believe that unless somebody agrees with your proposal then they are unreasonable and so you throw your toys out of the pram and start complaining about terrible blood curdling words like the dreaded "carnist". The piss taking was there right from the beginning but your heavily blinkered vision appears to have stopped you from seeing anything wrong with the conduct of your fellow meatheads who have been the ones chiefly responsible for bombarded the thread with nonsense.
I haven't seen any toys being chucked, just piss taking out of sillyness. This thread was always nonsense. CR just notched it up a level.
You'll need another diversion now I suppose
From what? Nothing going on here.
 
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