Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[cupid_stunt]

At least she came good eventually.

Eating raw meat is not 'coming good', IMO, she's a fucking weirdo.

 

[Athos]

Eating raw meat is not 'coming good', IMO, she's a fucking weirdo.

I wasn't entirely serious!

To be honest, I don't care what she does, but that she's doing it to her kid is fucking ridiculous.

 

[gentlegreen]

Feeding raw brains to your child.
What could possibly go wrong ?

 

[Rivendelboy]

Don't really see the problem with eating bone marrow. Unusual, certainly. Unhealthy, not a bit.

 

[Rivendelboy]

From one extreme to another. Although I'm suprised the equivalent of social services havnt been involved. Shows how adaptable we are as a species though. Not that I'd want to share a bathroom with her.

Former vegan turned carnivore eats raw bone-marrow for breakfast

Why should social services be involved? Is there any evidence the kid is sick or suffering?

 

[Flavour]

Agreed. there's nothing wrong with eating raw meat. all carnivores do it. and it's still common in many parts of the world.

 

[gentlegreen]

No veggies eh ?

Matshishkapeu - Wikipedia

 

[gentlegreen]

Agreed. there's nothing wrong with eating raw meat. all carnivores do it. and it's still common in many parts of the world.

And most of 'em would eat fruit and veggies in a flash if they were available.

 

[Flavour]

And most of 'em would eat fruit and veggies in a flash if they were available.

no they wouldn't. you're arrogant and eurocentric. you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[gentlegreen]

no they wouldn't. you're arrogant and eurocentric. you don't know what you're talking about.

LOL

 

[Athos]

There's nothing wrong with eating raw meat (I do it, too). There is something wrong with making your child eat only raw meat, though!

 

[Spymaster]

There's nothing wrong with eating raw meat (I do it, too). There is something wrong with making your child eat only raw meat, though!

Unless you have to, why would you? It seems like she’s trying to make some silly point. That said, I guess there are plenty of vegans who force their lifestyles on their kids so is she any worse than them?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

There's nothing wrong with eating raw meat (I do it, too). There is something wrong with making your child eat only raw meat, though!

I think this is the key point. Only eating it is a bit suss. Imagine their packed lunches....

 

[Rivendelboy]

There's nothing wrong with eating raw meat (I do it, too). There is something wrong with making your child eat only raw meat, though!

Why?

All parents make their children eat certain food and restrict others, that's how parenting works.

Unless you have to, why would you? It seems like she’s trying to make some silly point. That said, I guess there are plenty of vegans who force their lifestyles on their kids so is she any worse than them?

lifestyle and diet aren't entirely synonymous. It's a problem when vegans do it because a plant only diet isn't nutritonally complete.

 

[Rivendelboy]

I think this is the key point. Only eating it is a bit suss. Imagine their packed lunches....

Again this is just cultural. Why shoudl it be any worse than a packed lunch full of fruit, processed grains, and vegetables?

 

[Athos]

Unless you have to, why would you? It seems like she’s trying to make some silly point. That said, I guess there are plenty of vegans who force their lifestyles on their kids so is she any worse than them?

Both ae wong when they result in a child not getting the nutrients they need.

 

[Athos]

Why?

All parents make their children eat certain food and restrict others, that's how parenting works.



lifestyle and diet aren't entirely synonymous. It's a problem when vegans do it because a plant only diet isn't nutritonally complete.

A meat only diet isn't nutritionally complete either.

 

[Spymaster]

lifestyle and diet aren't entirely synonymous.

Well of course not but we're clearly discussing diets here.

It's a problem when vegans do it because a plant only diet isn't nutritonally complete.

And the same would apply to a meat only diet for humans.

 

[joustmaster]

A meat only diet isn't nutritionally complete either.

Thats not true.

 

[Rivendelboy]

Well of course not but we're clearly discussing diets here.

And the same would apply to a meat only diet for humans.

Only if it can be shown to be unhealthy.

 

[Orang Utan]

a plant only diet isn't nutritonally complete.

it can be. you can get enough protein if you eat plenty of pulses

 

[8ball]

it can be. you can get enough protein if you eat plenty of pulses

 

[Rivendelboy]

A meat only diet isn't nutritionally complete either.

The argument made is that the amount of nutrients actually needed are sufficient when sourced from meat. For example, vitamin c isn't needed in the amounts the NHS lists if you're not eating carbs (essentially speaking) because it competes in the body for the same biological pathways. Since meat eaters on this diet aren't enduring scurvy, it doesn't seem to be a factor.

 

[Rivendelboy]

it can be. you can get enough protein if you eat plenty of pulses

Body needs more than just protein

 

[Orang Utan]

Body needs more than just protein

yet there are millions of healthy vegans

 

[Proper Tidy]

I think it is different because there is less chance of getting mad cow disease from eating raw carrot than from raw cow brain tbh lads

 

[Rivendelboy]

yet there are millions of healthy vegans

Except the one in the article mentioned.

And many others.

I've no idea how many vegans are or aren't healthy and neither do you. All we can do is point to what we know exists in plant food and what doesn't.

 

[Rivendelboy]

I think it is different because there is less chance of getting mad cow disease from eating raw carrot than from raw cow brain tbh lads

There's less chance getting mad cow disease from eating anything that isn't a cow, so what?

 

[Proper Tidy]

There's less chance getting mad cow disease from eating anything that isn't a cow, so what?

So that's why feeding a two year old raw cow brain is a bad idea that probably should result in some sort of child protection intervention and isn't comparable with feeding a child a balanced vegetarian or vegan diet

 

[8ball]

One thing I've noticed is that it common for healthy people to take up vegetarianism or veganism with health in mind as one of the benefits, but when they go back to eating meat it is not to 'become healthier' but is because they have actually become ill.

Hard to say how common this is, taken across all veg*ns, of course.