Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[Proper Tidy]

The (microbial) culture war continues. Who is arsed about a burger made of beans being called a bean burger ffs

 

[gentlegreen]

I have to confess I always found Tesco's "vegetable quarter pounders" hilarious.
Small mashed potato patties with carrots and peas.

 

[Teaboy]

A sausage describes the shape of something as does a burger to an extent. Both burgers and sausages can be any type of meat so whats the difference with vegetables? Should a pie be only called a pie if it has meat in it?

There is some stupid labeling out there such as vegetarian crispy duck or vegetarian roast beef dinner. Things that specifically relate to a certain animal should really contain that animal.

 

[8ball]

A sausage describes the shape of something as does a burger to an extent. Both burgers and sausages can be any type of meat so whats the difference with vegetables? Should a pie be only called a pie if it has meat in it?

There is some stupid labeling out there such as vegetarian crispy duck or vegetarian roast beef dinner. Things that specifically relate to a certain animal should really contain that animal.

Vegetarian roast beef dinner is new one on me, though I guess it tells you what to expect and I'm not sure what would be better.

 

[Southlondon]

I was bitterly disappointed to discover my hot dog contained no actual dog meat at all. This mislabelling has to stop. Thank god for the EU I say

 

[Proper Tidy]

Where does this leave crisps? Think they already make clear they are beef flavoured not beef or whatever (dunno if it is true but once read the only pringles which weren't suitable for vegans were the sour cream ones) but maybe they should have much bigger prominent warnings on packets saying 'NOT REAL BEEF' or maybe the world should get a grip ffs

 

[8ball]

It's like we never learned anything from the "hedgehog crisps" fiasco.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It's like we never learned anything from the "hedgehog crisps" fiasco.

I used to get Dragon crisps when I was a kid, they were great and afaik no disclaimers

 

[gentlegreen]

I somehow missed that - it was around the time I'd just embarked on 20 years of complete veganism.

Bizarrely, a settlement was finally reached when Mr Lewis, of Hedgehog Foods, interviewed gypsies who actually did eat baked hedgehogs, to ascertain the flavour of hedgehogs. Mr Lewis then commissioned a flavourings firm to duplicate the flavour as closely as possible and changed the labels from "hedgehog flavoured" to "hedgehog flavour" and all interests were satisfied!

Hedgehog Flavoured Crisps

 

[8ball]

I used to get Dragon crisps when I was a kid, they were great and afaik no disclaimers

Not sure about "great". I'd peg them as the "Corona pop" of crisps.

Though there was a satisfying brittle crunchiness about them.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Not sure about "great". I'd peg them as the "Corona pop" of crisps.

Well Corona pop was great

 

[gentlegreen]

Didn't they come up with "vegetable discs" or somesuch - or was that just anti-EU bollocks ?

Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

 

[8ball]

Well Corona pop was great

The "red flavour" was great, and the lemonade was ok.
The other flavours, not so much.

Guess the green one was acceptable in a pinch.

 

[Rivendelboy]

Raw liver is so last week... Eating raw squirrels as a form of anti-vegan protest is the done thing now...

Man eats raw squirrel to taunt vegans but freaks out meat eaters instead | Metro News

What a complete fucking wanker

ETA: The Metro article doesn't seem to mention that he got arrested for his efforts as well

sv3rige or whatever he calls himself is an arsehole and, from what i've heard, also not actually a non-vegan.

This sort of stupid shit is only done for clicks and views. He's an idiot.

Just learned that there are massively more veggie restaurants in Iceland even than in the UK !

There's only about half a million vegans in the UK.

As to the original question. The answer is yes. Obviously not all vegans are scumbags, but the one's I've encountered on Google+/Youtube and Discord are, quite honestly, some of the worst people I've ever tried to have a conversation with.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I never encountered anybody on Google+, not a soul

 

[8ball]

sv3rige or whatever he calls himself is an arsehole and, from what i've heard, also not actually a non-vegan.

 

[Rivendelboy]

Well, according to him, it's perfectly normal, natural and healthy to eat raw meat and he claims that veganism is extremely unhealthy and is part of some NWO Agenda 21 depopulation program designed to make everyone sick and kill us all off. Frank Tufano is another strong advocate of the "carnivore diet" who has livestream debated with vegans saying similar things, ie vegans are all sick and unhealthy and deluded.

Frank has actually been very critical of Sv3ridge. He's an odd one; like's his makeup and looks like a toy doll but he seems genuine, and does back up what he says with citations. I'm not sure he's 100% correct, but he doesn't appear to be in bad shape. Of course off screen he could be eating tofu and juicing kale.

 

[Spymaster]

... not actually a non-vegan.

That looks horrible. Are you saying he is a vegan?

 

[Rivendelboy]

Don't feel sad, the guy's a crank. That should be obvious. His diet is irrelevant. The hardcore vegans I encountered on Discord were all Sam Harris Jordan Peterson fans who used terms like 'cuck' seriously. There's arseholes and there's food

 

[Rivendelboy]

That looks horrible. Are you saying he is a vegan?

By non-vegan I mean carnivore. He claims to be anti-plants (iirc), but (again iirc) isn't

 

[8ball]

There's arseholes and there's food

Ideally not in close proximity.

 

[Spymaster]

By non-vegan I mean carnivore. He claims to be anti-plants (iirc), but (again iirc) isn't

Ok. Double-negative fail.

So you are saying he IS a carnivore but he's NOT "anti plants" (is anti-plants a thing?)

 

[8ball]

Ok. Double-negative fail.

So you are saying he IS a carnivore but he's NOT "anti plants" (is anti-plants a thing?)

Yeah, there are some "full carnivore" types, some of whom only eat meat and some green leafy veg, and some who forego the veg entirelty.
Some people who have health problems have been known to get better on such diets. It seems likely a lot of the effect is down to eliminating something that was previously causing problems.

 

[Rivendelboy]

Ok. Double-negative fail.

So you are saying he IS a carnivore but he's NOT "anti plants" (is anti-plants a thing?)

But he claims to be. So the point I'm painfully trying to make is that he's a hypocrite.

 

[JimW]

The meaty bit in a burger is the "patty" isn't it?

 

[Rivendelboy]

The meaty bit in a burger is the "patty" isn't it?

I believe so

 

[UnderOpenSky]

From one extreme to another. Although I'm suprised the equivalent of social services havnt been involved. Shows how adaptable we are as a species though. Not that I'd want to share a bathroom with her.

Former vegan turned carnivore eats raw bone-marrow for breakfast

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[cupid_stunt]

From one extreme to another. Although I'm suprised the equivalent of social services havnt been involved. Shows how adaptable we are as a species though. Not that I'd want to share a bathroom with her.

Former vegan turned carnivore eats raw bone-marrow for breakfast

I wish I hadn't clicked on that link, and read it.

Anyone got a source for mind bleach?

 

[Athos]

I wish I hadn't clicked on that link, and read it.

Anyone got a source for mind bleach?

At least she came good eventually.