Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Ax^
Silly Rabbit
you get used to it after a while
my companies been doing it for months now
Twat MD is now trying to get us to wipe the printer after each use which is more annoying
i worked through out the full lockdown with my team and none of us got covid from the fucking photocopier
Numbers
an ting!
Don’t need to wear a mask at my desk either but do when moving around the building or talking with anyone etc.
All the banks of desks are in a W formation but where I’m sat there’s no-body that close.
Entire office block is fogged every weekend and every desk which has been used (you get your own KB/mouse which you put away) is thoroughly cleaned every night (you overturn a card), communal doors cleaned regularly.
Free masks too.
All the banks of desks are in a W formation but where I’m sat there’s no-body that close.
Entire office block is fogged every weekend and every desk which has been used (you get your own KB/mouse which you put away) is thoroughly cleaned every night (you overturn a card), communal doors cleaned regularly.
Free masks too.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
A lovely turn of phrase.
bimble
floofy
I’ve just been on the daily mail website and the top most upvoted (agreed with) comments there under today’s article on the infection figures are all saying Don’t believe the hype Get back to normal It’s just flu etc.
That is not at all how it was first time round.
If they’re not all trollbots that is concerning.
That is not at all how it was first time round.
If they’re not all trollbots that is concerning.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Have a wash.
50,000 deaths wasn't enough for them.
I'm hearing more and more of the type of comment you are talking about. People are thick and have no stamina for long term news. It's depressing.
SlideshowBob
Active Member
Think it's natural in many respects a lot of people are increasingly unhappy with restrictions. Was always going to be the case if the virus didn't go away.
During the first wave most people supported the measures. There were no anti-lockdown protests, and it didn't feel like a particularly partisan issue which was provoking great ideological divides.
Right now a lot of people do still support lockdown measures, according to polling - but there's obviously a much more sizeable portion of the country who are opposed to them and feel we need to get back to normal. That group will, in all likelihood, probably continue to rise if we successfully contain death numbers.
SlideshowBob
Active Member
The most common argument against measures we hear now is that deaths numbers are low - but this, of course, ignores that death will rise as cases rise. Especially if the virus is allowed to spread unchecked.
But I do understand the frustrations of a lot of people. We're essentially being told to put our lives on hold for an indefinite period of time. That's a genuinely huge ask in many respects. And as we try to target restrictions, some of them are genuinely becoming confusing, especially when coupled with poor comms. Rising unemployment will only make anti-lockdown sentiment worse as well.
But ultimately, no matter how annoyed people get, I've yet to see any other solution which won't see cases and therefore deaths skyrocketing before long.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
It was Belgium, with their European drinking culture. Oh, and a curfew that required everyone to be home between 11.30pm and 5am.
Article about it, and British interest in it, here: Bed by 11: how a strict curfew helped Belgium suppress a second coronavirus wave
elbows
Well-Known Member
And due to the fact they are keen to stop such measures at the earliest opportunity, I dont think they suppressed the second wave for very long. They damped down a particular hotspot and sent the overall numbers in a downwards direction for a period, but things have gone up a lot again recently and yet they still seem as interested in loosening measures as strengthening them.
I'll put their graphs in a spoiler tag since this isnt the best thread for them but they do fit into the conversation.
Yougov has support for the new measures at 78%, with almost half of those surveyed thinking they don't go far enough. Recommend you don't read too much into what goes on btl on the daily mail tbh.
Most people support new lockdown rules | YouGov
A snap YouGov poll finds more than three quarters in favour of the new restrictions
yougov.co.uk
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Was it them or someone else reporting yesterday that split opinion almost entirely in labour/Tory lines?Yougov has support for the new measures at 78%, with almost half of those surveyed thinking they don't go far enough. Recommend you don't read too much into what goes on btl on the daily mail tbh.
Most people support new lockdown rules | YouGov
A snap YouGov poll finds more than three quarters in favour of the new restrictions
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I went out tonight to a comedy event, all outdoors on plastic seats in pairs of two, with the drinks ordered either in advance or via a QR code on the back of the chair (we had them in advance). Masks weren't expected while sitting down - you were quite far apart from other people - but were expected when moving around the site; most people remembered. The arrival and leaving times were staggered, and impressively well organised.
It felt very safe - a good compromise as a way to enable an event without actually killing people. Though they won't be able to do any more this year, really, it's simply too cold.
Then when we left we - I think a thousand people, maybe? - were all leaving and getting public transport at the same time because, by 9:30, everything had shut or was preparing to shut - at least that means the establishments were all following the rules stringently. The DLR was by far the riskiest part of the trip. (I don't think many people attempt to drive to Greenwich).
Going there, we were able to choose our times, and arrived earlier than needed - the tube and DLR was way quieter on the way in, at 4:30, than on the way out.
I wish they'd allowed a coffee shop or two to stay open so that we could sit down, not drink alcohol (which does increase the risk of not obeying social distancing rules) and been able to wait before getting on the DLR.
Staggered leaving times makes more sense to me than a simple curfew. Maybe pubs could be allowed to stay open till 11, but only selling soft drinks and hot drinks after 10pm, or even earlier. That would encourage some people to leave earlier, but some would stay, because it's about the socialising more than the booze, really, especially if you're not allowed to meet up at home.
You could have six people at home, but presumably that includes your household members. So for a family of four, that'd be two guests. To see three-five friends, you'd need to go out. And in some ways it probably would be safer, or at least more trackable. But it doesn't have to be boozy.
It felt very safe - a good compromise as a way to enable an event without actually killing people. Though they won't be able to do any more this year, really, it's simply too cold.
Then when we left we - I think a thousand people, maybe? - were all leaving and getting public transport at the same time because, by 9:30, everything had shut or was preparing to shut - at least that means the establishments were all following the rules stringently. The DLR was by far the riskiest part of the trip. (I don't think many people attempt to drive to Greenwich).
Going there, we were able to choose our times, and arrived earlier than needed - the tube and DLR was way quieter on the way in, at 4:30, than on the way out.
I wish they'd allowed a coffee shop or two to stay open so that we could sit down, not drink alcohol (which does increase the risk of not obeying social distancing rules) and been able to wait before getting on the DLR.
Staggered leaving times makes more sense to me than a simple curfew. Maybe pubs could be allowed to stay open till 11, but only selling soft drinks and hot drinks after 10pm, or even earlier. That would encourage some people to leave earlier, but some would stay, because it's about the socialising more than the booze, really, especially if you're not allowed to meet up at home.
You could have six people at home, but presumably that includes your household members. So for a family of four, that'd be two guests. To see three-five friends, you'd need to go out. And in some ways it probably would be safer, or at least more trackable. But it doesn't have to be boozy.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
The major issue with that is that half terms are every six weeks or so, not every twelve weeks.
Two weeks out of eight with those strict requirements would be really hard to manage, financially and mentally. I don't know how companies would be able to keep people on with that amount of time without income, especially since some of them would probably have to plan for occasional closures if they have an outbreak even with those measures. And then people would have to recheck the rules all the time, kids would have even more time out of school, and rescheduling "non-urgent" medical procedures would be even harder - even non-urgent ones often require aftercare, and who'd be able to give it, if there's a lockdown?
One "circuit breaker" in October does seem like a good idea, but repeated ones every six weeks would be chaotic.
Even planning for strict two-week shutdowns every twelve weeks would make planning anything really hard. Every twelve weeks schools already shut for around two weeks (Christmas, Easter, then it's summer), so that wouldn't actually change anything.
So did the one I went to in July. Though actually it was a party in a car park outside the flat.
A lot of the "house parties" I've been to or hosted since I became a parent 22 years ago started at 2pm, but house party is a very generous term for most of them.
They might still have gone on till 3am but that was usually after the early crowd had left.
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wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
How’s the battery of your phone being affected by the app?Got the app today - I was quite amused that in its privacy etc agreement they felt the need to explain that it's theoretically possible someone using the app will guess you are the infected person if you're the only person they've come into contact with.
Not on this - they're both running at 80% support. Labour supporters are more likely to support stronger measures but there's still substantial support for them to go further from tories too.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Whole thread on that. Mine not been affected at all. It says on the FAQ if your phone battery is hammered to report it as a bug.
Cloo
Banana for scale
No difference from usual yesterday I'd say
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
213 new cases this week in Leeds’ student areas. 
It uses BLE, Bluetooth Low Energy. Bluetooth has moved on a bit.
Although I'm turning BT off when at home.
213 new cases this week in Leeds’ student areas.
I know there's the other thread for universities. But this was always going to happen, given the infection rate wasn't reduced low enough during the summer.
The biggest dangers for so many young people contracting this in those circumstances are still that they might pass it on to more vunrible groups. That some of them may have underlying conditions, knowingly or otherwise. And the Longcovid thing that effects a minority.
Don't know why I wrote all that, bit Captain Obvious....
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
re-renamed, it was always ‘intro week’ until the horrible Americanism of ‘freshers’ was adopted sometime around the late 90s.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
It's been Fresher's Week in Scotland for a lot longer than that. We called it that at least in the late 80s
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yeah it was freshers week in 1993 for me, and when I look it up it is a longstanding British informal term. Apparently goes back so far that its also used in India as a result of British colonialism.
miss direct
misfungled
I never even connected fresher's with "freshmen" until now.
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