Chancellor and Health Secretary quit.
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Sasaferrato
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The Tory party is very sadly crumbling; if only Johnson toughs it out until the next election.
He recently survived a vote of no confidence which have given him a year.
Sunak and Javid are distancing themselves from him to go for leadership when Johnson finally falls.
I am so not sorry things are progressing like this, it's a right mess
It is, but not so good for the country.
Tough crowd!
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Books, not bombs
I could have told you he was no good for the country years ago when he was fucking up London.
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I don't think he has covered himself in glory over the past few months and was virtually absent on theThe Tory party is very sadly crumbling; if only Johnson toughs it out until the next election.
He recently survived a vote of no confidence which have given him a year.
Sunak and Javid are distancing themselves from him to go for leadership when Johnson finally falls.
I am so not sorry things are progressing like this, it's a right mess
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
I'm mystified as to why so few people seem to have noticed.
I was just listening to a phone-in on LBC, because I am a masochist. Someone who voted for Johnson in the last election, but said he would never do so again, said that he did so because he thought he was a man of integrity. What the cunting fuck? It wasn't just that he was a liar as both a journalist and a politician (to say nothing of his private life) -- the sheer size and number of his lies was staggering, even when compared to other notorious practitioners of mendacity. How the fuck could anyone have thought he was anything but a self-serving dishonest scumbag in everything he ever touched?
little_legs
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Is this swine even going to make it to the PMQs tomorrow?
There is not enough time before the Parliament recess for the Tories to organise his defenestration, 2.5 months of resignations and potentially further revelations of misconduct.
There is not enough time before the Parliament recess for the Tories to organise his defenestration, 2.5 months of resignations and potentially further revelations of misconduct.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Readers of the Mail and Express and Telegraph perhaps because these minor details don't seem to appear in those papers
for some reason.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No, it's not humiliating enough for him yetOnly two resignations this morning, still it's not et 9 o'clock
Isn't this what we were looking for when he won the vote of confidence.
what do you imagine is the source of Johnson's power?
bimble
floofy
It looks like his power has for a long time come mainly from their (conservative MPs) lack of any better idea / viable alternative rather than any of them actually thinking he's good at his job or a fine upstanding fellow or anything like that. Feels like years now of "surely he can't cling on any longer".
right, but if he loses a vote of no confidence, he no longer even has that. what would he have to cling on to in order to stay in power if his power is the confidence (grudging or otherwise) of the tory party in parliament?
bimble
floofy
Maybe he will decide to call a general election just to piss absolutely everyone off instead of waiting to be slowly defenestrated?
I don't understand it but there must be a reason why he was keen on making sure this law
Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 - Wikipedia passed during his time at the top?
I don't understand it but there must be a reason why he was keen on making sure this law
Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 - Wikipedia passed during his time at the top?
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I reckon in his head he was expecting to be riding a massive wave of popularity so wanted to be able to call an election when he wanted to secure his next glorious term. I doubt he was thinking ahead to give him some form of desperate angle to work when his support was crashing down around his ears.
bimble
floofy
Wouldn't achieve anything that makes strategic sense, but as a parting shot might be a better way to go (in the heroic narrative of the BJ memoirs).
A bit like trump i don't imagine Johnson gives even the tiniest shit about the future prospects of the party that he rode to power on, seeing them lose might appeal to him as retribution for their lack of loyalty to him.
A bit like trump i don't imagine Johnson gives even the tiniest shit about the future prospects of the party that he rode to power on, seeing them lose might appeal to him as retribution for their lack of loyalty to him.
it's not even an angle to work it is? If Johnson called an election today in an act of deranged spite, the party would likely still remove him ahead of the actual election - but he isn't going to. Whatever else is going on, the Tory Party have a substantial majority and the ability to push through whatever policies they like with no bother at all for the next couple of years - this would not be the case if there was an election. No Tory leader is going to inflict that kind of self harm on the party.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
He's not like Trump though in that he hasn't got the personal mandate that Trump had (and is now trying to cling to with all the election fraud bullshit). Johnson as an individual has never been elected as PM in the way that Trump was as President - normally that's a fairly academic distinction but it does matter here I think, there's not really any great leader angle that Johnson can work here - as KB says the Tories can replace him and carry on in government,
bimble
floofy
i see that before the last round, it was raised as a possibility he could threaten his own party with. But that probably even less likely to work now that the polls show pretty much nobody wants him anymore. Article is a few weeks old:
www.bloomberg.com
Tories Fear Johnson May Call Snap UK Election If He Faces Rebellion
www.bloomberg.com
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
I doubt he will, but I wouldn't put any money on him not calling an election. He doesn't care about anything other than himself. If he himself personally is fucked, fuck everything else up too.
As a great and wise philosopher once said "Screw you guys, I'm going home"
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Is he totally fucked though? I mean from a purely personal self interest angle (which I think we can probably all agree is what motivates him). He'll want to cling on as long as possible as PM but I'm sure he's already got an eye on a lucrative career of directorships/speaking engagements/opinion columns and going down in a storm of furious spite probably isn't great for all of that.
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