Puddy_Tat
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i understand that a spokesman for DEATH will be along soon to refute any association with anyone that unethical...
Therese Coffey Health Secretary your time is up
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i understand that a spokesman for DEATH will be along soon to refute any association with anyone that unethical...
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I dropped by to see if anyone had mentioned Coffey sharing her drugs .
www.theguardian.com
Thérèse Coffey criticised for giving leftover antibiotics to a friend
Health secretary accused of ‘monumental stupidity’ for saying she had shared a prescribed medication
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Did these supposed issues about her lifestyle matter when she was at the helm of a department that caused, hastened, and wilfully ignored multiple deaths?
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You've got the wrong end of the stick.
The issues are only about that.
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The Tories want anyone claiming pensions or benefits dead in order to help save the economy.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
How have I?
And only about what, her weight in relation to being health secretary?
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What weight? Please give the quote. Makes answering easier.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Are we still talking about Coffey's weight? How many pages is it now ffs...
Classic Urban
Classic Urban
Sad indeed.
www.theguardian.com
It was no miracle, but for a few hours – heating, cooling, resting, letting go – I felt a peace I rarely felt elsewhere. It’s a cliche to talk about the diversity of bodies you see in a place like this (it’s true, there are piercings, muscles, varicose veins, scars, hair and no hair) but it was the drip, drip, drip effect of being around women quietly treating themselves with simple kindness that did something quite profound for me. It still does: when the self-loathing resurfaces (and it does occasionally), I know a quiet hour or two letting the soft animal of my body feel warm around others doing the same.
I haven’t been to the Porchester since its 2019 refurb; I hope it’s kept its heart. I see there’s a concession rate for pensioners and people on carers’ and disability allowance; that’s good, because these places weren’t intended to be the preserve of people who can afford a three-hour Balinese rejuvenating ritual. They were for anyone who wanted to give their body a few hours of warmth and kindness. Surely we need that now more than ever.
These facilities highlight the kind of integrated approach to the promotion of wellbeing I spoke of earlier, that a health secretary working with other departments could be taking on, defending, expanding. This one never will.
I felt at peace in my local Turkish baths. How sad that yet another is closing | Emma Beddington
In my 20s I was at a low ebb – I had lost my hair and was suffering from an eating disorder. But a few hours in this calm space did something quite profound for me, writes Guardian columnist Emma Beddington
It was no miracle, but for a few hours – heating, cooling, resting, letting go – I felt a peace I rarely felt elsewhere. It’s a cliche to talk about the diversity of bodies you see in a place like this (it’s true, there are piercings, muscles, varicose veins, scars, hair and no hair) but it was the drip, drip, drip effect of being around women quietly treating themselves with simple kindness that did something quite profound for me. It still does: when the self-loathing resurfaces (and it does occasionally), I know a quiet hour or two letting the soft animal of my body feel warm around others doing the same.
I haven’t been to the Porchester since its 2019 refurb; I hope it’s kept its heart. I see there’s a concession rate for pensioners and people on carers’ and disability allowance; that’s good, because these places weren’t intended to be the preserve of people who can afford a three-hour Balinese rejuvenating ritual. They were for anyone who wanted to give their body a few hours of warmth and kindness. Surely we need that now more than ever.
These facilities highlight the kind of integrated approach to the promotion of wellbeing I spoke of earlier, that a health secretary working with other departments could be taking on, defending, expanding. This one never will.
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These facilities have never had anything to do with the doh, as the word municipal indicatesSad indeed.
I felt at peace in my local Turkish baths. How sad that yet another is closing | Emma Beddington
In my 20s I was at a low ebb – I had lost my hair and was suffering from an eating disorder. But a few hours in this calm space did something quite profound for me, writes Guardian columnist Emma Beddington
It was no miracle, but for a few hours – heating, cooling, resting, letting go – I felt a peace I rarely felt elsewhere. It’s a cliche to talk about the diversity of bodies you see in a place like this (it’s true, there are piercings, muscles, varicose veins, scars, hair and no hair) but it was the drip, drip, drip effect of being around women quietly treating themselves with simple kindness that did something quite profound for me. It still does: when the self-loathing resurfaces (and it does occasionally), I know a quiet hour or two letting the soft animal of my body feel warm around others doing the same.
I haven’t been to the Porchester since its 2019 refurb; I hope it’s kept its heart. I see there’s a concession rate for pensioners and people on carers’ and disability allowance; that’s good, because these places weren’t intended to be the preserve of people who can afford a three-hour Balinese rejuvenating ritual. They were for anyone who wanted to give their body a few hours of warmth and kindness. Surely we need that now more than ever.
These facilities highlight the kind of integrated approach to the promotion of wellbeing I spoke of earlier, that a health secretary working with other departments could be taking on, defending, expanding. This one never will.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
I'm literally responding to what you wrote.
I'll rephrase (or re-punctuate even). Here goes -
How have I?
And only about what? (Do you mean) her weight in relation to being health secretary?
Err, what? That's not actually what I said, or what the article or my post was about. Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Someone is wrong though.Are we still talking about Coffey's weight? How many pages is it now ffs...
Classic Urban
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No, it's my post
Oh FFS.
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Oh ffs yourself, you're on about central govt ignoring that these Turkish baths have never had any relationship with Whitehall
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I love your crafty edit after I'd replied
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The think about posts here is they don't repeat what's been said because that'd be really really boring.
No, I'm not 'on about that' at all. And I did know what municipal meant before you explained. Are you drunk or something?
I said that a health service should be about wellness more generally, and that these kinds of spaces are an example of the kind of approach to that which could be looked at by anyone with any stake in health.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Are fat people ok to be teachers? Nurses? Parents?
Where is the line drawn?
What roles should fat people be allowed and disallowed to have Tanya1982 SysOut?
Need your health-concerned guidance.
Still wondering if her obesity and ~lifestyle~ mattered when she presided over the department that caused, hastened and wilfully ignored the deaths of multiple people?
Where is the line drawn?
What roles should fat people be allowed and disallowed to have Tanya1982 SysOut?
Need your health-concerned guidance.
Still wondering if her obesity and ~lifestyle~ mattered when she presided over the department that caused, hastened and wilfully ignored the deaths of multiple people?
Yeah, I know the feeling. You've bored me senseless with your belligerence and willful misunderstandings. If you're having a drink, then fair enough. Otherwise, you're just being fucking tiresome for the sake of it.
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That's rather different from what you said
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Yeh those are obviously the only two options. If you've a mind so limited it thinks that fatshaming is a proper political argument.
Oh god, give it a rest. You've made me ill with this shit.
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Yeh? I wish I had that power. I think it's more likely your lamentable performance on this thread that's sickened you.
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That’s assuming Coffey intends to ensure this training is provided rather than a free for all OTC antibiotic nightmare like I’ve seen on the Indian subcontinent. There, pharmacists sell antibiotics by the tablet. If you’re skint, why continue paying to finish the course of antibiotics when you feel better and can spend that money on food? A few more years of Tory misrule and we wont be far from that scenario, accelerating terrifying resistance the the remain drugs we have.
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Puddy_Tat
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yes and no.
yes, council services are not (directly) controlled by whitehall, but local authority finance is heavily controlled by whitehall who hand out grant money on a fairly incomprehensible basis, set what councils are legally required to do (and in consequence, which services are discretionary and therefore easier to cut) and limit councils' legal powers to increase council tax etc.
the cameron government's 'localism' agenda was all balls - basically, cut councils' funding from central government, and blame councils for 'making cuts'
there's not enough joined up thinking between (NHS) health and (council) social care, and not sure the idea even exists in westminster / whitehall to consider the wider benefits and value (rather than just the cost) of other services that can influence health and well-being.
services including parks, libraries, and provision of adequate bus services so people can get to them, all have health / wellbeing benefits.
On a more personal level, better council maintenance of pavements would have saved the NHS the cost of repairs to mum-tat when she tripped on a dodgy paving stone last year. and would have made something of a difference to her well-being...
yes, council services are not (directly) controlled by whitehall, but local authority finance is heavily controlled by whitehall who hand out grant money on a fairly incomprehensible basis, set what councils are legally required to do (and in consequence, which services are discretionary and therefore easier to cut) and limit councils' legal powers to increase council tax etc.
the cameron government's 'localism' agenda was all balls - basically, cut councils' funding from central government, and blame councils for 'making cuts'
there's not enough joined up thinking between (NHS) health and (council) social care, and not sure the idea even exists in westminster / whitehall to consider the wider benefits and value (rather than just the cost) of other services that can influence health and well-being.
services including parks, libraries, and provision of adequate bus services so people can get to them, all have health / wellbeing benefits.
On a more personal level, better council maintenance of pavements would have saved the NHS the cost of repairs to mum-tat when she tripped on a dodgy paving stone last year. and would have made something of a difference to her well-being...
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Westminster legislates mandatory and discretionary local authority activities, Whitehall doesn't. About ten years ago councils were handed health responsibilities with no increase in funding, there needs to be a proper review of what each tier does and rearrangement of funding to allow this to occur. ((((Mum-tat))))
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