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The tories are a great burden on the economy
Therese Coffey Health Secretary your time is up
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Serene
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Indeed.
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they are also a great burden on the NHS
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edited, i didnt read your post properly so my reply is now null and void , stupid me
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Oh not a bit of it, posters like maomao and tanya1982 operate far beyond anything I've ever done. I'm just glad pedantry here has a rosy future with newbies like tanya1982 very happy to wear the pendants' mantleYou must be gutted, thats usually your job.
Wrinkly? No, not me, I've had a little subtle Botox in each side of the jaw, a chemical peel at 30 and another booked in for next year, and I slather on the eight hour cream as I have for years - highly recommend each. Middle age spread, no, not me - I only eat when I'm hungry, work out a bit, and use a belt I've had since I was 18 as my guide - if I go up a notch, I take my efforts up a notch to get down a notch. It's not hard, and it's no huge hassle. I don't believe in denying yourself pleasure.
Frippery, yes perhaps, but like many women I live in a world where you are judged on that frippery, and as I freely said, I have a conflicted relationship to it - which is not uncommon. You cannot be openly judged from a very early age without it warping your psyche, and it's equally impossible to say how much of that is internal and would've been there anyway, and how much of it is external. If Rob denotes you are male, you have the privilege to more easily dismiss it as 'frippery' better than I can.
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I don't think coffey's gone up a notch in the last 30 years
Rob Ray
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I do have that privilege, which is why I try not to judge either weight or wrinkles as pertaining to the character of the person I'm talking to. You do indeed seem conflicted on the matter, happy to condemn with one hand and primed to take mighty personal offence with the other. But this is something for another thread, I'd venture.
I'd lend her my guiding belt, but she might not get it round her ankle.
We'll, lucky you then. I am honoured to have had all this mansplaining about what a dreadful misogynist I am. It's been of enormous value to me, and no doubt to the many 'vapid' others who've also never considered these concepts on any level at all. I didn't actually link her character to her weight.
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No, clearly you didn't link her character to her weight. Aside from that very first sentence there.
I don't wear pendants or mantles - that would be a very middle aged look.
Rob Ray
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I'll quite happily stand by the view that snarking about someone being fat is vapid, but I haven't used or particularly aimed to imply the word misogynist at any stage. If I've been mansplaining I can only apologise.
Well, you read what you want to into it Tony. I didn't link her character to her weight, I merely used both words as descriptors of her. They sit side by side - the only relation they have to each other is that in this case, they were about the same person. Them being side by side in her case doesn't preclude the clearly obvious truth that many fat people are lovely characters.No, clearly you didn't link her character to her weight. Aside from that very first sentence there.
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You mean like I took full responsibility ages ago, freely admitting that I could be bitchy and flippant, and accepting that I'd caused a unfortunate and irrelevant tangent by doing so? But which only led to continuation of the same, and even more mansplaining about what a dick I am, how contrary, how misogynist, how inconsistent I'd been, how ignorant, how unwilling to learn, how dreadful my politics were, how unwelcome I am. Bearing all that in mind, why should I accept that apology? You stood by and let it happen, finding great fault with only me - that's as good as saying/doing it all yourself. Don't apologise, just reflect, as I will.
Apologies for the bolding of the entire post. Not sure why that happened.
Rob Ray
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Funny how prickly people can be while making their whole shtick about being a bluff straightforward sort who tells it likes they sees it really.
Bottom line here, Tanya, is that quite clearly the culture on this board doesn't welcome mean-spirited comments about people's weight. So if you want to be treated seriously either work around that, or don't and get into a bunch of unnecessary arguments in which you take enormous offence at being criticised, I suppose. The latter seems like a waste of time to me, and on that note I'll leave you to it.
Bottom line here, Tanya, is that quite clearly the culture on this board doesn't welcome mean-spirited comments about people's weight. So if you want to be treated seriously either work around that, or don't and get into a bunch of unnecessary arguments in which you take enormous offence at being criticised, I suppose. The latter seems like a waste of time to me, and on that note I'll leave you to it.
Right, exactly, there's the sanctimony again - with extra projection, and the flourish of righteousness complete with 'that's enough now' - it was enough a long while ago. You're not sorry, so don't bother with the dishonest 'I can only apologise' bullshit. You play until you get bored, then make out it was one way traffic. That's just nonsense. I haven't complained about not being 'taken seriously' - it doesn't bother me. That's your thing obviously, don't put it onto me. I haven't taken great offence at being criticized - I criticized myself, and went much further in explaining and reflecting on that than anyone else did. You wasted your own time, Rob. Reflect, as you proudly said is your way - or don't.
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Give the Tories long enough and they'll make 35 middle aged again.
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We're all wasting our time here as we dander along on the way to the grave.
I thought like expectancy had actually declined, and was doing so for a number of years before Covid, just as with the USA, but with no other industrialized nation. I'd be interested to hear Coffey confronted about that. It's not something there's been very much publicity about at all.
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Likes are definitely on the decline
Well, it would be fine if we could all dander towards it at our own pace, but too many have been sped there. I just find it incredible how little traction it all gets.
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It's a disappointment the people who should be in priority boarding aren't.
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Good lucking bucking the trend. Therese Coffey works very closely with the grim reaper. Back in the 1960s the ministry of war became the ministry of defence, soon the ministry of health will become, more honestly, the ministry of death
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All true. I was reiterating the importance of your comment about life. We arent born for an infinite number of millions of years, then we are born and are alive for around, as you say, 81 years, and then we are dead forever. Some people dont seem to fully wake up to this.
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While some investors are calling it the Ministry of Wealth - but maybe all ministries call be called that.
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