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British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'

Kids that run away from home at 15 usually get into some fucked up stuff, see some things, get involved with unsavoury people and probably commit crimes too. Seems like we could avoid rushing to judgement.

I think you're missing the whole indoctrination by a death cult angle here. Whatever and whoever she was when she left she isn't that person now. IS were / are a hugely successful death cult, they'd be a bit shit if they couldn't manipulate a child's mind.

She's a clear danger until it can be shown otherwise. That video Ed posted is quite damning really.
 
The Govt. may well pay travel costs and more as she could be seen as the poster girl who went to Syria, didnt like it and turned her back on it.
She could be used as an influence to others.

She still looks back fondly on those days when the bins were full of human heads because they weren't Muslims. Things just got a bit corrupt more recently and they've started torturing believers.
 
London Centric as ever. What’s wrong with Old Trafford, Ibrox or the Aviva/millennium stadium?
anfield have intimated they would like to hold the trials, while prenton park are in negotiations regarding any trials of lib dems which may occur and labour trials look set to be held at goodison park.

the former people will be taken to the liverpool docks and thence loaded into ships for the voyage to south georgia
 
The Govt. may well pay travel costs and more as she could be seen as the poster girl who went to Syria, didnt like it and turned her back on it.
She could be used as an influence to others.

except that at no stage has she said she didn't like it. on the contrary, she says she did like it - the only reason she says she wants to come back to the UK is because of healthcare.

are you sure you actually read ony of this stuff?
 
except that at no stage has she said she didn't like it. on the contrary, she says she did like it - the only reason she says she wants to come back to the UK is because of healthcare.

are you sure you actually read ony of this stuff?
it is a pity then that a solution suitable to all parties might not be arranged in the eastern med.
 
She still looks back fondly on those days when the bins were full of human heads because they weren't Muslims. Things just got a bit corrupt more recently and they've started torturing believers.

And other women were her slaves which was fine because they weren't pure. Halcyon days.
 
one's convicted of war crimes get Jailed Daesh they would have been promoted.

although after Phil Shiners campaign short of committing a massacre on live streaming your probably going to get off scott free:facepalm::D
 
joining a murderous death cult that thinks going on a suicidal stabbing spree or driving a car into people is a laudable act rather ruins people desire to trust her.

So fucking what? When was trust a requirement of citizenship? Where did I mention trust at all?

And since you've butted in, what was this nonsense earlier?

At best she will require a lot of surveillance her moral code is different to the UK norm.

For the record I don't trust you and I think your 'moral code' is different to most people here. Do you see me demanding your citizenship be revoked?
 
For the record I don't trust you and I think your 'moral code' is different to most people here. Do you see me demanding your citizenship be revoked?

I may have missed it but is anyone arguing that her citizenship should be revoked? On here I mean?
 
To be fair, if the british state's security apparatus only spent its time surveilling members of genocidal death cults, rather than the Young Liberals and the Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army, it might be a bit more difficult to object to such activities.
 
I think you're missing the whole indoctrination by a death cult angle here. Whatever and whoever she was when she left she isn't that person now. IS were / are a hugely successful death cult, they'd be a bit shit if they couldn't manipulate a child's mind.

She's a clear danger until it can be shown otherwise. That video Ed posted is quite damning really.

You're a clear danger until it can be shown otherwise. Your post is quite damning really. I think we should lock you up.

Daesh are not the only people who can manipulate children's minds. Pimps, drug dealers, abusers are all quite capable. I think you're using the word "Death cult" (what does that even mean?) to try to pretend this is a different issue than it is.
 
I may have missed it but is anyone arguing that her citizenship should be revoked? On here I mean?

I said:

This seems a non story as a) Govt isn't going to pay travel costs unless she gets to a consulate and b) if she does she'll be flown back to Britain and go through prosecution/social services as applicable.

Which got some bizarre responses from you and likesfish.

I can only assume from the responses you think she shouldn't be allowed back into the country, which would mean revoking her citizenship. So you have raised revoking her citizenship, possibly without realising.
 
You're a clear danger until it can be shown otherwise. Your post is quite damning really. I think we should lock you up.

Daesh are not the only people who can manipulate children's minds. Pimps, drug dealers, abusers are all quite capable. I think you're using the word "Death cult" (what does that even mean?) to try to pretend this is a different issue than it is.

IS are a clear death cult. Have you missed the entire history of it? There is no mercy for anyone who does not adhere to their strict code, it really is as simple as that. They themselves welcome death, or would have us believe. I'm not sure where to go with this conversation if you don't understand that premise.
 
I haven't fucked off to join a foreign Death Cult that keen on spreading violent Jihad.

Britain's youngest female terror plotter jailed for life after planning Isis-inspired attack on British Museum, For example, is a not unreasonable suspicion of why she might want to come back to the uk.

Death cult massacre, slaving, the fetishism of making suicide attacks beheading of hostages

What is your point here?

I think you're a danger to yourself and others. Is that a justification for locking you up or revoking your citizenship?
 
IS are a clear death cult. Have you missed the entire history of it? There is no mercy for anyone who does not adhere to their strict code, it really is as simple as that. They themselves welcome death, or would have us believe. I'm not sure where to go with this conversation if you don't understand that premise.

What is a death cult?

Even in this post you seem unsure. Is a death cult a group that welcomes death, or a group that wants us to believe they welcome death?
 
I said:



Which got some bizarre responses from you and likesfish.

I can only assume from the responses you think she shouldn't be allowed back into the country, which would mean revoking her citizenship. So you have raised revoking her citizenship, possibly without realising.

No, you could read my actual replies, you know the thread you're now posting on when I said she should be afforded the same legal protection as any other UK citizen abroad. Strawman shit because you've not read the thread and don't really understand what people are arguing.
 
What is a death cult?

Even in this post you seem unsure. Is a death cult a group that welcomes death, or a group that wants us to believe they welcome death?

A death cult who wishes death on all non-believers and is prepared to carry it out and they themselves have no fear of death. In fact they welcome it as it will speed their process to glorious afterlife.

As for the caveat I've never been in a death cult so I don't know how many actually await death with glee so we can only go on what they say.
 
What are we arguing about actually?

Who disagrees with:
A. She still seems quite on side with the whole caliphate thing. Heads in bins, no biggie.
B. UK personell aren't going out there to get her.
C. If she makes it back here somehow, questioning, possible procecution and high likelihood of her child going into care await.
D. Meh.
 
She was a committed and enthusiastic supporter of a fascist regime which committed mass rape, torture and murder on misogynistic, racist, homophobic and religiously motivated grounds. She is entirely unrepentant about that; she only wants out now because the writing's on the wall, and to exploit the healthcare provided by a society that's her sworn enemy. She was well over the age of criminal responsibility when she left, and stayed there into adulthood. Frankly, I couldn't care less if she dies in a Syrian refugee camp.
 
What are we arguing about actually?

Who disagrees with:
A. She still seems quite on side with the whole caliphate thing. Heads in bins, no biggie.
B. UK personell aren't going out there to get her.
C. If she makes it back here somehow, questioning, possible procecution and high likelihood of her child going into care await.
D. Meh.

Rehabilitation should be attempted for sure.
 
What is a death cult?

Even in this post you seem unsure. Is a death cult a group that welcomes death, or a group that wants us to believe they welcome death?
Religious and minority group massacres, forced conversion, and expulsion

See also: Arabization, Genocide of Christians by ISIL, Genocide of Shias by ISIL, and Genocide of Yazidis by ISIL
Sexual violence and slavery
Further information: Sexual violence in the Iraqi insurgency and Slavery in 21st-century Islamism
See also: Islamic views on slavery, Ma malakat aymanukum, Raptio, and Wartime sexual violence
Destruction of cultural and religious heritage
Main article: Destruction of cultural heritage by ISIL


I'm pretty sure that's a good starting point for getting the murder of LGBT people beheading aid workers and doctors etc etc
 
No, you could read my actual replies, you know the thread you're now posting on when I said she should be afforded the same legal protection as any other UK citizen abroad. Strawman shit because you've not read the thread and don't really understand what people are arguing.

Alright fair enough, but then what is your point about the 'damning' video? Why did you respond to me in the first place?
 
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