British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
and better hospitals. those lazy cunt Doctors stopped working after we shot them. the cunts...
ffsear
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A380
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That’s lunch sorted then.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Something I read the other day claimed american denazification was more or less abandoned because of the cold war. Just a hasty veil drawn over all the rallies, the distribution of the protocols, american hb flirtation with fascism, Angleton's fash leaning....all down the memory hole.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
barred means barred
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh very much so
eoin_k
Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music
Far too many carried on with what they were doing under new paymasters, but another difference here is that Germany capitulated before denazification took place, however imperfectly. The report I heard of this case is that she's expressing no regrets but just wants to come home now, which leaves me pretty indifferent to her fate.
Meanwhile, that bastion of justice the British state is responding with (and I paraphrase):
"Good luck getting back, but we're not risking our own necks to get you out. Feel free to make your own way to a consulate and we can have a chat. Oh, and by the way, you might get done for recruiting terrorists if we have anything on you, and don't be surprised if the kid gets taken into care."
What else do we expect?
andysays
Love and solidarity
I've read the story, and I certainly don't see any reference to any terrorist actions she's even alleged to have carried out, unless you consider marrying and having children with an ISIS fighter in itself a terrorist act.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I didn't say she had. I was replying to a part of the thread discussing if she had criticised/renounced ISIS
tim
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Of course it's vague because I'm talking in general. As I know neither what this young woman is accused of nor what she did, if anything beyond going to Syria,. I can say little about her. What I can say is that we should move on from tabloidesque expressions of outrage and calls for vindictive punishment.
IS doesn't allow women to fight. They have other rolls available for them and she would have known this when she left. Just because she didn't directly pull the trigger or do the beheading herself it doesn't mean she wasn't directly involved. She would have known this before she left as well.
Its more about her capacity as a child to make these decisions and what has happened to her since. Her crimes (actions is probably a better word) seem fairly apparent.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Fairly much, as well as ours the French and the Russians did. Not very. Although Pierpoint did kill over 226 for their role- I think they made him a Brigadier for the duration.
But the DeBarthication of Iraq was handled with far more zeal. And that didn’t turn out too well either...
Smokeandsteam
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tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
British soldiers get therapy regardless of the justice of the conflict they volunteer to kill in. I don't think that (the treatment) is wrong.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you're confusing the removal of barthes' works from iraq with the removal of the ba'ath party from iraq. the debarthesification of iraq was carried out with zeal, perhaps with more zeal than the deba'athification of iraq.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
I'm fine with sitting next to her on the tube, just for the record. I don't want to sit next to her on the tube, she's from London, but then you mostly have to sit next to London types on the tube.
This seems a non story as a) Govt isn't going to pay travel costs unless she gets to a consulate and b) if she does she'll be flown back to Britain and go through prosecution/social services as applicable.
Not that prosecution seems very likely as as far as we know she hasn't committed any crime.
Kids that run away from home at 15 usually get into some fucked up stuff, see some things, get involved with unsavoury people and probably commit crimes too. Seems like we could avoid rushing to judgement.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Yes. He's been at it for a while now on this thread. I'm still waiting for him to tell us who in this thread is guilty of 'tabloid' style outrage.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
well the Islamic state has ceased to exist as a country/nation whatever unlike Germany or Iraq so no real need or desire to keep former nazis around because they know how the place runs anyone with any responsibility in Germany was a member of the Nazi party it wasn't optional. That's why no mercy will be shown to torys at the public death trials based at Wembley 
likesfish
You can't park here sir
joining a murderous death cult that thinks going on a suicidal stabbing spree or driving a car into people is a laudable act rather ruins people desire to trust her.
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Starry Wisdom
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A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
... That's why no mercy will be shown to torys at the public death trials based at Wembley
London Centric as ever. What’s wrong with Old Trafford, Ibrox or the Aviva/millennium stadium?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
They get homeless, they get undiagnosed mental health problems, they get high levels of drug and alcohol abuse, they get shit pay as well. Mind you as they 'volunteer to kill' they've probably had it coming.
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