British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'

[littlebabyjesus]

This rescue business all sounds very easy. You just need a bit of cash and you can whisk her out of there.

 

[eoin_k]

Isis bride with no passport in the middle of a war zone along a closed border between Kurdish controlled territory and Turkey ... all she needs is a chap from the Times to come along and rescue her.

 

[Pickman's model]

If The Times has the resources to get a journalists in and profit from her plight, they have the resources to get her out.

They have after all all of Rupert Murdoch's news international empire to call on

 

[Pickman's model]

Isis bride with no passport in the middle of a war zone along a closed border between Kurdish controlled territory and Turkey ... all she needs is a chap from the Times to come along and rescue her.

The times could hire people more suited to extract her than their bumbling hacks

 

[eoin_k]

Not to speculate too wildly, but this solution might be a wee bit naive in its assessment of the situation on the ground.

 

[A380]

 

[tim]

This rescue business all sounds very easy. You just need a bit of cash and you can whisk her out of there.

It's how you get camera crew in and out. As has been pointed out, it isn't a prison, just a benighted hell-hole.

 

[eoin_k]

Don't get me wrong, part of me really likes the idea. What could go wrong with News International sending a team of mercenaries, or private contractors, call them what you will, into Syria, extracting Begum from a Kurdish camp and then trafficking her across several international boarders without any travel documents.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's how you get camera crew in and out. As has been pointed out, it isn't a prison, just a benighted hell-hole.

I will bow to your superior knowledge. I had no idea that all it took was a bit of cash to get a camera crew in and out. I had naively assumed that it required a whole lot of paperwork up front, contacts on the ground, a fair number of hair-raising moments, no doubt a bunch of bribes even with the correct paperwork, stuff like that.

 

[eoin_k]

I will bow to your superior knowledge. I had no idea that all it took was a bit of cash to get a camera crew in and out. I had naively assumed that it required a whole lot of paperwork up front, contacts on the ground, a fair number of hair-raising moments, no doubt a bunch of bribes even with the correct paperwork, stuff like that.

You forgot the risk assessments, security protocols, insurance...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You forgot the risk assessments, security protocols, insurance...

Even experienced journalists can and do get killed in war zones. That's just for being there to report, not trying to smuggle one of the hated, just-defeated enemies out of the country.

Sorry but some people have come out with some right old tosh on this thread.

 

[Spymaster]

But I wonder if her best bet at the moment is that a private individual/company stump up the cash for her 'rescue'.

An individual or private company who's really keen to help out a member of the worst rapey, murder, head-chopper, death cult on the planet. I don't reckon you'd get trampled in the rush.

 

[eoin_k]

I'd like to listen in to the phonecall to the insurers:

"Hi, it's Anabelle at Sky News here. Can I just check if we are currently covered for people trafficking members of proscribed organisations?"

 

[cupid_stunt]

If her family wants her back, simple answer, start crowd funding.

I am sure there's a few bleeding hearts on here that will chip in.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'd like to listen in to the phonecall to the insurers:

"Hi, it's Anabelle at Sky News here. Can I just check if we are currently covered for people trafficking members of proscribed organisations."

The alternative suggestion is even more absurd in many ways. Hire a bunch of mercenaries who don't give a fuck who it is they are rescuing and just want the cash, and will kill whoever gets in their way presumably? Fucking genius idea.

 

[clicker]

An individual or private company who's really keen to help out a member of the worst rapey, murder, head-chopper, death cult on the planet. I don't reckon you'd get trampled in the rush.

It'd only take one. I reckon there's someone somewhere who'd take a punt at the right price. The person in need of rescue hasn't shown amazing decision making skills to date, so there is possibly an equally ill advised benefactor waiting in the wings. I can't see her 'escaping' without outside help, I can't see anyone sane going in to help her. That doesn't mean it won't happen.

 

[eoin_k]

Clearly the compassionate thing to do and no doubt what the people of the Middle East would want, too. All of them.

 

[8ball]

I'd like to listen in to the phonecall to the insurers:

"Hi, it's Anabelle at Sky News here. Can I just check if we are currently covered for people trafficking members of proscribed organisations?"

Would that be “former member” now?

 

[eoin_k]

Would that be “former member” now?

Why? Will that effect our premiums? We're not too sure of her current membership status, so we thought it was best to err on the side of caution.

 

[A380]

The alternative suggestion is even more absurd in many ways. Hire a bunch of mercenaries who don't give a fuck who it is they are rescuing and just want the cash, and will kill whoever gets in their way presumably? Fucking genius idea.

That was my plan...

 

[keybored]

Someone has just sent me this - Katie Hopkins take on the situation.



It's to wind me up because they know how much I despise this vile woman and every last word that comes out of her bigoted mouth

Is this some sort of joke?

 

[editor]

This rescue business all sounds very easy. You just need a bit of cash and you can whisk her out of there.

She should be afforded whatever legal requirements are in place for British citizens abroad, but no one should be expected to put their lives at stake to bring her back home, nor should she be given any kind of go-to-the-front-of-the-queue preference, IMO.

 

[tim]

I will bow to your superior knowledge. I had no idea that all it took was a bit of cash to get a camera crew in and out. I had naively assumed that it required a whole lot of paperwork up front, contacts on the ground, a fair number of hair-raising moments, no doubt a bunch of bribes even with the correct paperwork, stuff like that.

That's basically it, Rupert should have a word with his mate Erdogan, who obviously smooth the border crossings, and then send Rebekah, as she can clearly get herself out of anything.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's basically it, Rupert should have a word with his mate Erdogan, who obviously smooth the border crossings, and then send Rebekah, as she can clearly get herself out of anything.

Ah, the 'pretend it was all just a joke' gambit. It's ok to just admit you were talking bollocks, you know.

 

[eoin_k]

[...] As has been pointed out, it isn't a prison, just a benighted hell-hole.

She's living in a warzone in a camp controlled by people with whom her associates are still at war, having surrendered herself to them. Whatever degree of liberty she enjoys, which remains unclear, it doesn't seem wildly speculative to consider it possible that their are some restrictions on her movements.

 

[tim]

Ah, the 'pretend it was all just a joke' gambit. It's ok to just admit you were talking bollocks, you know.

I don't think it will happen but Murdoch clearly has the resources to get her out, and what is left of his media empire has made money out of her predicament.

 

[MrSki]

She's living in a warzone in a camp controlled by people with whom her associates are still at war, having surrendered herself to them. Whatever degree of liberty she enjoys, which remains unclear, it doesn't seem wildly speculative to consider it possible that their are some restrictions on her movements.

It is possible she might be traded Or when the fighting is over it is possible they will take revenge & execute her.

 

[eoin_k]

I read somewhere that they would prefer the British state to take her off their hands, which is one of the more compelling reasons to do so.

 

[Spymaster]

I don't think it will happen but Murdoch clearly has the resources to get her out ...

You don't think so?

 

[tim]

You don't think so?

One can live in hope. He theremay be an old softy hidden under that scaley carapace.