Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action

[Red Sky]

Ps I didn't dodge your question. The motivation behind it was so obvious I simply choose not to dignify it with a reply.

Well quite.

 

[Casually Red]

What did you do about it?



The trouble with you is that you've lumped everyone who's ever disagreed with into one category. Why do you think I've got anything to do with 'safe spaces'?

No I haven't . Indeed you don't give off the safe space vibe as such in your posts . The problem ..one of them..is a wider left who adopt that approach . I hope I haven't inadvertantly suggested I thought you were the antifa king or something .

 

[jimmer]

Does anybody know anything about 'Red Front Republic' in Glasgow?

They seem to have come from nowhere - Red Front Republic (@GlasgowRFR) on Twitter

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Does anybody know anything about 'Red Front Republic' in Glasgow?

They seem to have come from nowhere - Red Front Republic (@GlasgowRFR) on Twitter

'Green Brigade clowns under a different banner' according to this blog.

 

[jimmer]

'Green Brigade clowns under a different banner' according to this blog.

Thanks, that looks like a hostile blog so wouldn't say it was reliable.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Thanks, that looks like a hostile blog so wouldn't say it was reliable.

Not beyond the realms of possibility that it's organised Celtic supporters though.

 

[fiannanahalba]

Clowns. Middle class muppets.

 

[Joe Reilly]

So, as recently as 1996 the BNP thought they had a chance of imposing "systematic" control of all political events in the UK through violence?

Up the change of strategy the aim of the BNP (and groups of like mind) was to impose itself on the political initiatives of their direct opponents, through violence or the threat of it.

Now that I have answered your 'question' is there anything stopping you answering mine?

 

[Red Sky]

Up the change of strategy the aim of the BNP (and groups of like mind) was to impose itself on the political initiatives of their direct opponents, through violence or the threat of it.

Now that I have answered your 'question' is there anything stopping you answering mine?

Your question ..

An unlovely position. So what's the Antifa diagnosis?

...my answer.

'Antifa' is a pretty generic concept these days. It was the name of a UK based group in the early 2000s but that's defunct now.

Are you after the official AFN position? I'm afraid there isn't one. As the name suggests - the AFN is a network made of groups and individuals with a variety of political positions.

 

[vitali]

Bottled it.
Not an easy task to defend the internationalist socialist alternative in these dark days Red Sky, but better that than the retreat into the conservative 'socialist' vision Joe Reilly offers, a UKIP-lite.

 

[The39thStep]

Bottled it.
Not an easy task to defend the internationalist socialist alternative in these dark days Red Sky, but better that than the retreat into the conservative 'socialist' vision Joe Reilly offers, a UKIP-lite.

What is the internationalist socialist alternative that we have to defend in these dark days?

 

[The Flying Pig]

Bottled it.
Not an easy task to defend the internationalist socialist alternative in these dark days Red Sky, but better that than the retreat into the conservative 'socialist' vision Joe Reilly offers, a UKIP-lite.

Sounds like a job for the clapton Ultras ! This dam blaggard Reilly. I am sure they can call an action on him. First they will have a big meeting and discuss the action, then they will send in the girls. If he does not retaliate we will all run away and hatch our plan B. Yes we will all come back on mass and attack him with our lentils. That should teach him a lesson.

 

[TopCat]

Sounds like a job for the clapton Ultras ! This dam blaggard Reilly. I am sure they can call an action on him. First they will have a big meeting and discuss the action, then they will send in the girls. If he does not retaliate we will all run away and hatch our plan B. Yes we will all come back on mass and attack him with our lentils. That should teach him a lesson.

You are giving them an out with all this bullshit. The facts are mind boggling enough.

 

[The Flying Pig]

You are giving them an out with all this bullshit. The facts are mind boggling enough.

What "facts are mind boggling enough"?

 

[TopCat]

All the actual stuff CU said and did.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I think most people will be able to deduce that his post was tongue in cheek.

 

[The Flying Pig]

All the actual stuff CU said and did.

Fully agree 100%

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Bottled it.
Not an easy task to defend the internationalist socialist alternative in these dark days Red Sky, but better that than the retreat into the conservative 'socialist' vision Joe Reilly offers, a UKIP-lite.

Instead of calling on Red Sky why don't you have a go at defending the international soclalist alternative?

 

[Joe Reilly]

Bottled it.

Perhaps. But ask yourself this? Would a moderately intelligent, middle class, twelve year old smart arse have come up with anything better?

 

[Pickman's model]

Bottled it.
Not an easy task to defend the internationalist socialist alternative in these dark days Red Sky, but better that than the retreat into the conservative 'socialist' vision Joe Reilly offers, a UKIP-lite.

you won't find many international socialists these days, sunshine.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

We're all national socialists now sonny.

 

[Joe Reilly]

Why do you think I've got anything to do with 'safe spaces'?

A self-described activist who refuses to answer a question on what he is an activist about might consider silence a 'safe place'.

 

[Pickman's model]

A self-described activist who refuses to answer a question on what he is an activist about might consider silence a 'safe place'.

i would suspect someone posting on a thread about anti-fascism and describing themselves as an activist might justifiably be understood to mean an anti-fascist activist.

 

[Red Sky]

Sounds like a job for the clapton Ultras ! This dam blaggard Reilly. I am sure they can call an action on him. First they will have a big meeting and discuss the action, then they will send in the girls. If he does not retaliate we will all run away and hatch our plan B. Yes we will all come back on mass and attack him with our lentils. That should teach him a lesson.

Who said satire was dead?

 

[Red Sky]

A self-described activist who refuses to answer a question on what he is an activist about might consider silence a 'safe place'.

That reasoning is almost Jesuitical in its tortuosness.

 

[Pickman's model]

That reasoning is almost Jesuitical in its tortuosness.

it's utter bollocks, isn't it? someone says they're an activist and all of a sudden they have to believe in safe spaces pisspoor, it really is.

 

[chilango]

Activist is quite a tainted label these days though isn't it? It's a role that come with a lot of baggage.

 

[The39thStep]

Vitali's post reminds me of John Penneys line on here many moons ago.

 

[Red About Town]

Crossing Borders: Anti-Fascist Action (UK) and Transnational Anti-Fascist Militancy in the 1990s

Nigel Copsey

Far too little academic attention has been paid to more contemporary forms of transnational anti-fascist militancy. Yet this study supports the idea that this field of anti-fascist activity has remained important. This article examines transnational anti-fascist militancy in the 1990s through a case study of Britain's Anti-Fascist Action (AFA). In doing so it offers an in-depth account of AFA's attempts to establish an international militant anti-fascist network in conjunction with Germany's Autonome Antifa (M). The article identifies the common interests, challenges and limitations of this network. The final part of his article reflects on the cross-border importation of AFA to the Irish Republic.

Document can be downloaded here:

Crossing Borders: Anti-Fascist Action (UK) and Transnational Anti-Fascist Militancy in the 1990s - TeesRep - Teesside's Research Repository

 

[gawkrodger]

Would people be interested in/think there is a need or, rather, desire for a small book on the history of antifascism in the West Midlands?