Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action
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I don't think this is any way as clear cut as 'having faith' in Gable.
Gable/Searchlight always had their own agenda. Sometimes it co-incided with that of AFA and others. Other times it did not.
We always knew this. So did they. So it was always a macabre dance... a bit like black widows mating... but with each side determined to be the female IYSWIM.
But his decline into paranoid rambling is perhaps a direct result of years of trying to play every side of the fence, of subterfuge and double-dealing. It's a shitty old business.
Gable/Searchlight always had their own agenda. Sometimes it co-incided with that of AFA and others. Other times it did not.
We always knew this. So did they. So it was always a macabre dance... a bit like black widows mating... but with each side determined to be the female IYSWIM.
But his decline into paranoid rambling is perhaps a direct result of years of trying to play every side of the fence, of subterfuge and double-dealing. It's a shitty old business.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
never had anything to do with searchlight, never met any apart from matt collins. i did email them about 62 group and sonia sent me some stuff on them which was from the 'good old days.' also got a load of issues from the 70s from bignose and they are good. who else had the info at the time? is the narrative something like 'as RA needed a broader front with AFA, AFA needed a strong source of information and searchlight were the only game in town. they had the info.' is that about right?
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malatesta32
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spot on. paranoia is a BIG part of this and with death threats, people 'popping round' with flammable presents, being attacked etc. hardly surprising. hows the book by the way?
malatesta32
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There were other intell sources around , whilst most of them went to Searchlight there were others who were independent. Prob true to say that there was a time when the Searchies had the widest intell but not the only intell.
You won't remember Forewarned a curious publication from a group of ex CPers based around a fella called Dave Roberts. There main theory was that fascism was based on the landed gentry and aristocracy . They published names and adresses of loads of NF and BM but even then there was a suspicion that they had links with state services.
Any news of the publication date for your book? Its a bit too late for Xmas presents.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
not out till next year mate but you will be getting one gratis! forewarned was before my time but support for fascism tried to move 'down' and appeal to working class youth - BM, NF footsoldiers etc. trusting anyone or any information is always going to difficult but it as to be said, facebook of all places is a very good source. you'd be surprised what they give away to alts etc when pissed at night.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
yeah its weird. antifascist alts using the same intell source as plod. digital antifascism eh?
It's progressing... slowly. No luck with Fash/ex-Fash contributors yet.
Think it might end up as two books... I'm kinda writing my own book, whilst waiting for others to write their contributions
malatesta32
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chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
a far politer reply than I could manage
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
politely, malatesta, not your best work.
your blog was a great thing when it had a real target to oppose. I am not sure what tweaking the tail of someone who is, in your own description, "an overweight has-been hooligan and a grass" really achieves.
your blog was a great thing when it had a real target to oppose. I am not sure what tweaking the tail of someone who is, in your own description, "an overweight has-been hooligan and a grass" really achieves.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
something useful could have come from it. for a moment, when the one actual answer began, i thought he may actually say something. But, naah, one quick, fairly obvious comment and 'fuck off spakka.' You need to stroke a twat like thats ego, tell him he is the big man, unique insights blah blah. Not tell him off for his spelling
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Personally I don't see the point of bothering. He's a lonely, bitter, isolated no mark who should just be left to disappear down the drain of history. It's not as if he has any far-right influence left and not much will be learned from a man who has wasted over half his life in jail and seems little interested in reflecting on the reasons why.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
that was the conversation for bad or for worse
'The correspondence fizzled out after that. So make of it what you will!'
what did you expect?
'The correspondence fizzled out after that. So make of it what you will!'
what did you expect?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
but he was a notable figure. A good interview would get something out of him, but still show him up for the useless waste of space he always was. Using his own words to show he's shite, rather than your own works much better.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
You should have chucked it online until you got a better one. It says as close to nothing as you can get without actually saying nothing, and you dont come out of it that well either. Pretend it never happened.
Limerick Red
Мы вас похороним!
eh, no platform?
love detective
there's no love too small
I find it bizarre that barely a few days ago you were bemoaning the fact of the existence of a well researched article, written by a socialist, on a dead ex-fascist which featured considered and interesting contributions from fascists, anti-fascists and others along with a host of archival material which was all blended into a decent (if not exactly groundbreaking or new) piece of social and sub-cultural history - you're response to this was 'why' was it done
yet barely a few days later you come out with this
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
has to be applied sensibly and appropriately. If, for whatever reason, its not 'appropriate' just pretend it never happened
yawn
Limerick Red
Мы вас похороним!
you've turned off the celtic match as well so?
thanks be to jaysus.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Fair do's, I am still a bit of a bitter fucker over this and was having a dig. Not deserved really.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
he is stil clearly deluded and in denial. that was the conversation.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
And you came out of it as badly as he did
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