BBC presenter Huw Edwards suspended over paying for sexual pics.

[Looby]

Putting legalities aside for a moment, I’m continually surprised that there’s a question over this being a safeguarding issue or whether calls the older person’s morality and character into question.
This presenter doesn’t have to have broken the law for the BBC to decide he doesn’t have a place in their shows.

I supported a child of the same age through an issue with an older male behaving in a sexually inappropriate way and grooming them. A law might not have been broken (I feel it was) but it was still absolutely wrong for this much older man to behave the way they had been towards someone who was vulnerable.

On a professional level, I see the damage that is done to young people that might not be clear immediately.
16/17/18 year olds (and older) are in a really vulnerable place because the laws do not safeguard them in the same ways and it’s hard to ‘take action’ but they’re not mature. They’re still naive as hell, lack judgment and easily influenced by older, more powerful people.

Personally, I did shitloads of stuff and put myself in lots of risky situations thinking I was an adult and could handle it and even liked it. I wish someone had been looking out for me.

 

[Aladdin]

Whoever this is they are being referred to as "household name " level BBC presenter by Sky news.

 

[pug]

"As the crisis deepened and it emerged that the global temperature had exceeded all previous records newspaper presses sprung into action and the internet became inflamed with discussions and speculation..."

 

[two sheds]

Yeah, for whatever reason I've managed to avoid this sort of thing in similar situations in the past but have caught some of the scattergun, and in many cases simply vindictive speculation on this one, and it really is scary. Both in terms of the randomised impact it can have, but also just the kind of thinking and attitude so many people are happy to throw out there.

A few libel cases might concentrate peoples' minds.

 

[Mumbles274]

I read in this thread the young person is male.

It only says thet are a young person on the BBC website and no mention of any gender?

 

[Lord Camomile]

A few libel cases might concentrate peoples' minds.

But is that really feasible against just rando Twitter/Reddit accounts?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Yeah, for whatever reason I've managed to avoid this sort of thing in similar situations in the past but have caught some of the scattergun, and in many cases simply vindictive speculation on this one, and it really is scary. Both in terms of the randomised impact it can have, but also just the kind of thinking and attitude so many people are happy to throw out there.

Before social media was a thing, I vaguely suspected that a lot of people were thick and spiteful.

Now there is absolutely no doubt.

 

[Tanya1982]

Trial by tabloid, again. Never great. Seen some speculation this morning, however on the same website I also saw someone saying the queen isn't dead but is in rehab in New Jersey, so.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Whoever this is they are being referred to as "household name " level BBC presenter by Sky news.

I heard him being described as "the face of the BBC" on a news programme this morning.

 

[mack]

I heard him being described as "the face of the BBC" on a news programme this morning.

Well his arse is all over twitter now

 

[two sheds]

But is that really feasible against just rando Twitter/Reddit accounts?

Probably not but for someone with money to splash you'd think it would be easy enough to get court orders for Twitter to demand the release any names they have with a good chance of recouping legal costs from at least enough of them.

 

[not-bono-ever]

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[not-bono-ever]

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[cupid_stunt]

Well his arse is all over twitter now

This was posted on twitter.

Ed: no. FFS

 

[kabbes]

But is that really feasible against just rando Twitter/Reddit accounts?

Not really. You’d have to show that you’d suffered loss because of that rando, and a big part of that would be the credibility that others place on the statements. The fact that @massivedong50 reckons some celeb has a paedo’s face is not really of material damage, no matter how theoretically libellous it is as a statement

 

[andysays]

We know almost nothing so it’s fairly certain there’s more to it.

I read earlier, can’t remember where, that the presenter contacted the family asking them not to pursue this. Maybe that’s the new information the BBC mentioned.

One of the stories on the BBC website says that the presenter contacted the young person; not seen any mention of him contacting the family.

 

[A380]

The Sun has reguarily bought pictures of under 18 year olds and published them in the paper.
Not sure I can see any difference in their behaviour.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Not really. You’d have to show that you’d suffered loss because of that rando, and a big part of that would be the credibility that others place on the statements. The fact that @massivedong50 reckons some celeb has a paedo’s face is not really of material damage, no matter how theoretically libellous it is as a statement

Aye, and feels like that's part of the problem.

@massivedong50 spouting off? Not really a problem. A few hundred @massivedong50s, to the point where your name is trending, and then people who aren't going to put in the time/effort to checking the real story but simply see your name being bandied about with such accusations... Then it can be a real problem. You'll have suffered loss, but there's not a single source of that loss to pinpoint and take action against.

The stupidity of the crowd.

I'm pretty sure it's also fairly well-established that, even if accusations are proven false, very often the stain will still linger in peoples' minds.

I absolutely fall into this trap too, of course. I'd like to think, though, I try to be a bit better at looking into things (though not always), or at the very least don't amplify this specifically damaging kind of accusation without a more reliable source than @massivedong50.

 

[xsunnysuex]

Yep. Someone's sent me the twitter pic on WhatsApp

 

[philosophical]

If it is who it has been suggested to me it is, then there is a very substantial age differential.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

That sounds really fucking judgmental TBH. Lots of men who are parents post late at night here but you don't say the same to them.

I didn’t mention her being a parent did I? You added that yourself.

 

[two sheds]

I didn’t mention her being a parent did I? You added that yourself.

Somehow I don't think you'd have said it to a man. You should fucking apologize it was a shitty thing to say.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Somehow I don't think you'd have said it to a man. You should fucking apologize it was a shitty thing to say.

I was trying to figure out if she was a returner or not. Probably incorrectly. I’m not interested in your mind reading tbh.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

. Seen some speculation this morning, however on the same website I also saw someone saying the queen isn't dead but is in rehab in New Jersey, so.

Utter nonsense. Elvis informs me it's somewhere in North Carolina.

 

[friedaweed]

I was trying to figure out if she was a returner or not. Probably incorrectly. I’m not interested in your mind reading tbh.

Well if you've incorrectly accused Tanya1982 of being cheeseypuff then you have two apologies to make. One was for something quite out of order and a very low blow but the later of your crimes is frankly quite hurtful.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Well if you've incorrectly accused Tanya1982 of being cheeseypuff then you have two apologies to make. One was for something quite out of order and a very low blow but the later of your crimes is frankly quite hurtful.

People accuse new posters of being returners all the time and I’ve never seen you pipe up about it. Hurtful lol.

 

[friedaweed]

People accuse new posters of being returners all the time and I’ve never seen you pipe up about it. Hurtful lol.

Tanya's been here for donks and has been repeatedly cleared of being firky. Say you're sorry you big knob

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Sorry.

 

[andysays]

People accuse new posters of being returners all the time and I’ve never seen you pipe up about it. Hurtful lol.

They do, and they're generally wrong, and it's generally really fucking tedious.

It certainly doesn't add anything to the thread

 

[Pickman's model]

They do, and they're generally wrong, and it's generally really fucking tedious.

It certainly doesn't add anything to the thread

It's still the urban way tho and it's been such a staple of threads for years that it's clear mm not the only and def not the worst offender