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Barbara Ellen on "female on male" violence

Not all domestic violence against men is perpetrated by women though, what about gay men in abusive relationships?

Domestic violence is in any case different from 'slap happy' violence carried out by people who are drunk (although there is the obvious overlap with people who carry out domestic violence when drunk).
 
Ld222 said:
So you don't regard woman getting 'slap happy' while drunk and socializing as violence??
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Er, not sure how you got that from my post. Perhaps you had better read it again. It isn't very long, so it shouldn't be too hard.
 
Ld222 said:
When a man attacks a woman in public people defend her but when the tables are turned, people simply laugh.



That’s the disturbing finding of a public experiment conducted in a London park filmed for an advertisement about domestic violence against men.

The video, created by DareLondon for the Mankind Initiative, shows how shocked and angry onlookers quickly intervene when the male actor fakes a violent assault on his ‘girlfriend’ – also an actor.

But when they change roles the public’s reaction – caught on three hidden cameras – is entirely different.

Onlookers can be seen laughing as the woman physically abuses and belittles her partner in full view of dozens of people.

The video has been viewed over a million times on YouTube and is generating discussion on Twitter with the hashtag #ViolenceIsViolence.

While the majority of family violence victims in Australia are women, domestic abuse against men is more common than often thought.

Australian Bureau of Statistics figures from December show 33.3 percent of people abused by their current partner are men.

Greg Andresen, senior researcher with male domestic abuse support group One-In-Three, said the video highlights two assumptions male abuse victims face: that they are probably at fault and that they should "man up" and take it.

"Even when the tables are turned people assume that he's the abuser and she's probably just getting her own back," Andresen told ninemsn. "It's a sort of 'you go girl' attitude."

He also believes people do not rush to help the man because men are "big and tough" and are never going to be seriously hurt.

"The evidence shows that when men are in an abusive relationship women are more likely to compensate by using weapons such as knives, guns or pouring boiling water over their partners," he said.

"Violence happens to men too and people should never think of violence as a joke."


Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/2...ugh-when-woman-abuses-man#CX6JCJVIPXuCY9bm.99
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What the fuck did I just read?
 
Ld222 said:
I'm saying women should not get drunk and go around slapping men. What is wrong with that. You clearly think it is okay.

Do you really have to use such profanity while addressing me??
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In my experience, women don't get drunk and go around slapping men, random or otherwise. Likewise men don't get drunk and go around slapping women.

I think you're confusing a contrived one-off scenario for a sweeping untrue generalisation.
 
butchersapron said:
Why then, did you choose as your avatar a picture of a member of an armed group involved in many violent battles?
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Is any there any chance of actually debating the issue, ffs!! Violence begets violence, it is wrong. To does mean that you should use to defend yourself.
 
equationgirl said:
In my experience, women don't get drunk and go around slapping men, random or otherwise. Likewise men don't get drunk and go around slapping women.

I think you're confusing a contrived one-off scenario for a sweeping untrue generalisation.
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Are you now saying this never happens?!?! Ffs, lol. There is no excuse for attacking someone, ok!!
 
But I will also say that if someone attacks me, hell yes I'm going to defend myself. A reasoned debate on the merits of violence isn't the most appropriate course of action at that point.
 
Ld222 said:
Just read the article. There is no excuse for attacking someone regardless of gender. Barbra Ellen is trivialising violence.
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Just quote the section where you claim Barbara Allen says it's ok for women to hit men. Substantiate your argument.
 
Ld222 said:
Just read the article. There is no excuse for attacking someone regardless of gender. Barbra Ellen is trivialising violence.
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I see you're banned but regardless. I did read the article this morning. I couldn't remember that bit so asked you to quote. If it's there you shouldn't have had much trouble finding it.

Ah well.
 
I just finished working with a 19 year old lad who has arms bigger than my thighs who is three months into a community service gig. Why? he 'casually' backhanded his mrs and broke her nose and jaw. Because he is a solid unit of muscle and she is an ordinary, slight but not ill woman. He has her forgiveness (not back together tho), a course of anger management and his community service. When I asked him what he was thinking he said he was complete sober, angry and just lashing out- but his course has been showing him how what he thinks as a light slap is actually a fucking serious assault from someone with that power in their arms. He's 19 so maybe its for the best, but why has it taken the state to teach this unit that his 'light slap' is other peoples GBH?
 
equationgirl said:
In my experience, women don't get drunk and go around slapping men, random or otherwise. Likewise men don't get drunk and go around slapping women.

I think you're confusing a contrived one-off scenario for a sweeping untrue generalisation.
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I'm guessing you've never been to the Bigg Market (newcastle) at kicking out time on a Friday night?*


*reference may be a little dated, it seemed a bit quieter than it used to be last time I had the misfortune to wander through around that time.
 
Geri said:
I think that is true in some cases, but in most cases surely it's the knowledge that if you hit a woman make you are likely to hurt her quite significantly due to an inbalance of strength?
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I think it's true in most cases. Men are less likely to report or press charges in relation to an attack on them by a female partner. A combination of chivalry and male ego.

There is also a media perception too. Rebecca Wade in 2005 laid into her then husband Ross Kemp giving her husband a black eye. The Suns response? Bish! Bash! Bosh! ran the headline, it was seen as funny despite her being arrested. That headline was probably written by a male. I don't believe she was ever prosecuted. I believe Kemp didn't pursue conviction, nor did the Police, but I could be wrong. At the same time reported in the same paper the other 'Mitchell ' brother was assaulted by his girlfriend. Because of their TV characters image it was viewed as funny and ironic. If the situations had been in reverse, you can imagine the response and headlines

Whilst I agree that overall men are physically stronger, Woman are capable of causing damage too.
 
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