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Autonomy in the UK

The strangest thing is that the SWP consider themselves 'ibertarian socialists' when the last thing they are is non authoritarian
 
Udo Erasmus said:
I started this thread because I had been enjoying some documents on the Class against Class website: http://www.geocities.com/cordobakaf/

I was also interested in the possibility of something that has a strong marxist core of the idea of class and class struggle but a more expansive repertoire of techniques and tactics of struggle. The campaigns in Italy such as auto-reduction of busfares, re-take the city and so forth could have a new resonance as we shift an economic gear into credit crunch blues.
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I've just uploaded two new texts to the site udo (both pdfs):

On Council Communism - Marcel van der Linden
and
Keynes and the Capitalist Theory of the State post-1929 - Toni Negri
 
ViolentPanda said:
Yeah.

For 1894.

Who was your webmaster, Sas by any chance? :p
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It'll come back into style before too long, that 1998 style don't know how to do anything but links look :D

(nah, redsign by someone who actually knows what they're doing is on the way as we've decided to get the ball rolling with the texts again)

Anyway, bunged two more up this morning:

Street Politics in Hamburg, 1932-3 - Anthony McElligott

and

The Stopwatch and the Wooden Shoe: Scientific Management and the Industrial Workers of the World - Mike Davis
(pdf here)
 
I'd like to say that i got a number of the rarer texts on there off Dave Graham who sadly passed away last week. Those of you who've been around some time will probably have known gra in one way or another -for people here you'd probably know him though the liverpool dockers dispute or the simon jones anti-casualisation campaign. He also posted on here as davgraham - he didn't post a lot but what he did post was always worth reading.
 
btw, vising the 'Topography of Terror Exhibition in Berlin (old Gestapo HQ) I was struck by how many 'blockhouses' bases, etc, the S/A has in the late 1920's/early 30's sometimes as many as two in a long St. must have been terrifying for the Left, etc.
 
I'd like to say that i got a number of the rarer texts on there off Dave Graham who sadly passed away last week. Those of you who've been around some time will probably have known gra in one way or another -for people here you'd probably know him though the liverpool dockers dispute or the simon jones anti-casualisation campaign. He also posted here as davgraham - he didn't post a lot but what he did post was always worth reading.
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Oh, I am so sorry, I was hoping to meet him one day, (tho with my memory I may have already done so) he really knew his stuff, can someone do a small obituary on P/P:(
 
I am excited by the idea of autonomism. The word itself seems to sound so much more exciting than anarchism. I class myself as an anarchist and a pacifist. I haven't been involved in any anarchist organisations but am planning to get in touch with the Anarchist Federation after Christmas. I am 27 years old and suffer with bipolar affective disorder. I have had a series of low paid mostly part time jobs and have never been an active member of a trades union. My degree was in Social Anthropology and I am planning to pursue a career in academia. I am planning to do a masters degree in Science Studies at Lancaster University in 2009. The mood on this thread seems to be that anarchist/autonomist forms of organisation are illusory or don't work and that the real alternatives are the SP or SWP. I have not really been involved in either the AF or the SWP/SP so I can't really compare but I am turned off by the idea of a hierarchical party. I have a copy of 'Chomsky on Anarchism' and read various anarchist websites and am passionate that the ideas of anarchism are the most enlightened and progressive of any political creed and believe they are ideals that I would like to explore. As I said I am thinking about joining the Anarchist Federation but don't know what I will find. I am hoping that they are open to new members and new ideas. My background is being rather underemployed so I don't have a great base as an activist to work from. From the little I know of the Italian Autonomist movement it seems to be quite inspirational. I have read Orwell's 'Homage to Catalonia' parts of which I am quite inspired by. My chief concern is whether it is possible to introduce democracy to all sectors of industry. Is it possible for workers to control the means of production in a democratic manner.
 
treelover said:
btw, vising the 'Topography of Terror Exhibition in Berlin (old Gestapo HQ) I was struck by how many 'blockhouses' bases, etc, the S/A has in the late 1920's/early 30's sometimes as many as two in a long St. must have been terrifying for the Left, etc.
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Depends which part of the left you mean.
If you're talking about the Social Democrats, well they shat their kecks in pretty short order, didn't they?
"Oooh no, no revolution for us, that can go on the back-burner. Let's be reformists instead".
 
Log in just for my ease atm (i should prob hide that, forgot it was there :eek:) - comments will be set up/enabled this week though. And none of this registraion bollocks either.
 
durruti02 said:
exellent thread .. some great stuff being qouted .. i never understood quite why the british left almost entirely ignored the italian movement first in the factories from 69 to 72 and then later in the towns .. this was at least as important as 68 in france on any many ways more important than '36 and 1917 which were in long gone societies

i was always a big fan of Lotta Continua in Italy and in this country of Big Flame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Flame_(political_group)

p.s. i would argue that Class war and also red action and later IWCA were all significantly influenced by italy
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Influenced by or came to similar conclusions due to similarity of circumstances?
 
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