Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support

Thing is, with this and all other welfare stories, it's up to the media editors what gets published or not. I've heard so many journalists say their copy was refused because their editors were afraid of overkill and pissing off audiences. Doesn't meant they don't keep the info gathered for the next big break though.
 
Thing is, with this and all other welfare stories, it's up to the media editors what gets published or not. I've heard so many journalists say their copy was refused because their editors were afraid of overkill and pissing off audiences. Doesn't meant they don't keep the info gathered for the next big break though.

Yeah, when will that be though? :hmm:
 
New post on Back Triangle from Mo Stewart.

Someone, other than investigative TV journalists(25), needs to be asking what was the ultimate goal, and who were to be the undoubted beneficiaries of this government funded medical tyranny, imported from America, against the most vulnerable people in our society?
Unum’s unacceptable influence with successive UK governments was recently exposed at the Liberal Democrat Conference by the courageous young Mr George Potter.(26)
If only the political leaders of the Liberal Democrats enjoyed some of the courage displayed by George Potter, millions of chronically sick and disabled people would no longer need to live in fear of this coalition government, that has totally failed to protect them, despite the claims by Liberal Democrat leaders.

George Potter, the Liberal Democrat activist who devised the motion, said that, although Liberal Democrats had ensured some improvements to the government’s welfare reforms – including the independent Harrington reviews of the WCA – disabled people were still “suffering right now because of what we have done in government”.
He also drew the attention of party members to the influence of the US insurance company Unum – which has been criticised for influencing welfare reform over two decades and then profiting from those policies – and which “sat on the committees which designed the assessment systems”.
His motion criticised the last Labour government for “relying too heavily” on “advice from private companies with a potential financial interest” in the outcomes of welfare policies affecting disabled people.
And he praised the investigative research of the disabled activist Mo Stewart, who has tried to expose the role of Unum in influencing welfare reform and has contributed to several Disability News Service (DNS) stories.
 
my search is failing me, can someone find the link to who is entitled to home assessment and who needs to be assessed by a doctor. bakunin has his dla assessment coming up soon, bloody again, he only had his appeal where it was awarded indefinately in january
 
my search is failing me, can someone find the link to who is entitled to home assessment and who needs to be assessed by a doctor. bakunin has his dla assessment coming up soon, bloody again, he only had his appeal where it was awarded indefinately in january
Let me have my tea, and I'll have a check for you. If you or Bakunin can PM me any medical conditions he has, it will make it easier for me to work through the DWP paperwork labyrinth.
 
Let me have my tea, and I'll have a check for you. If you or Bakunin can PM me any medical conditions he has, it will make it easier for me to work through the DWP paperwork labyrinth.

he's been open enough about this so ti's no secret. the main thing that i think should entitle him to home assessment is aspergers. he also has bipolar disorder and what are most likely stress related absence seizures (although no diagnosis on that). he also has a buggered short term memory, possibly as a result of trying to drown himself in cheap whisky in the eyars before he got his diagnosis, type 2 diabeties that is not well controlled due to the poor memory and a very stubborn refusal to do blood sugar testing (cause npo one can do stubborn like an aspie), high cholesterol and athsma that is bad enough to wake him up 3 or so nights a week on average.i think that's most of it. he is also far too unfit after many years worth of not being able to look after himself. i'm far stronger than him.

he should qualify for dla lower rate care on grounds of not being able to cook a main meal. the aspie tunnel vision, seiures and memory preculde him being safe with an oven unless i'm there and i've lost count of the number of times he eats stuff that is screwing up his blood sugar and cholesterol and there's a bowl of something healthier forgotten in the microwave.

but the silly bugger filled in his own forms, even though he knows what he should have done. we just had a row about him giving up and not doing this properly.

but if there's no recording, i will do a recording and take notes, and i can transcribe for apppeal. I will also make sure i state for the tape (by telling the assessor that this is an indicator of a certain behavior npattern) any aspects of his behavior, and he does go 'odd' when he's stressed, that need to be mentioned. i doubt he will sleep the night before the assessment anyway, but he does go completely manic when eh's not slept. complete loss of inhibitions and judgement. this won't harm his case when they are supposed to base on observed behavior.
 
she is lovelly.

if i wasn't dealing with the stress atm, i'd be able to do this myself. but brain does shut down for me when i'm stressed and he is like a tortoise withdrawing it's head into it's shell.

I had actually been looking earlier myself and came across someone saying all DLA medicals are at home. :hmm: I wasn't sure I believed that so continued looking but had other stuff to do. Sorry :D
 
she is lovelly.

if i wasn't dealing with the stress atm, i'd be able to do this myself. but brain does shut down for me when i'm stressed and he is like a tortoise withdrawing it's head into it's shell.

You're so good eg :)
I'm not feeling very lovely to be honest, I had a shitty day at work and ended up phoning someone's boss to tell him to get his engineer off my case, that I couldn't do what he wanted and what he wanted was technically and physically impossible anyway, AND I was up to my eyes in sorting out other problems for this guy at the same time.

Give me a few minutes, I'll get a ball of string to help me find my way out of the DWP internet maze.
 
thanks hun. didn't need this today. my job ended on tuesday and i need to find something that will support both of us, either through half decent pay or more likely, very long hours. i cannot face the stress of signing on and signing him onto esa. i'm stressing about uni stuff and now i've got this. the doors that having dla open for us into extra tax credits and other things that allow us to keep heads above water. I think he will loose the mobility, but we need the lower rate care.
 
I'm not feeling very lovely to be honest, I had a shitty day at work and ended up phoning someone's boss to tell him to get his engineer off my case, that I couldn't do what he wanted and what he wanted was technically and physically possible anyway, AND I was up to my eyes in sorting out other problems for this guy at the same time.

Give me a few minutes, I'll get a ball of string to help me find my way out of the DWP internet maze.

:(
 
thanks hun. didn't need this today. my job ended on tuesday and i need to find something that will support both of us, either through half decent pay or more likely, very long hours. i cannot face the stress of signing on and signing him onto esa. i'm stressing about uni stuff and now i've got this. the doors that having dla open for us into extra tax credits and other things that allow us to keep heads above water. I think he will loose the mobility, but we need the lower rate care.
Right, has he had the appointment letter for the assessment yet?
 
If he has, there should be a number on it to call to request a home visit. Be prepared to justify why he should get one - I would go with a) unpredictable absence seizures means he could be in danger if he has one whilst on the way to the assessment centre, b) risk of diabetic hypo due to poorly-controlled Type II diabetes coupled with poor memory and c) Asperger's (doesn't cope well out of usual environment, which can exacerbate the bipolar disorder leading to rapid manic/depressive episode cycling). He'll likely need a letter from the GP outlining the medical reasons why a home visit is necessary but it shouldn't be a problem.
 
Right, has he had the appointment letter for the assessment yet?

he had a phone cal that he was silly enough to respond to rather than say he wanted it in writing. they claimed he had failed to respond to previous attempts to contact him, but there were no letters sent out. he aggreed to a day for assessment before i could stop him and said he was fine with directions to the center. i got him to call back and ask for recording and ask whether his condition ment he was entitled to a home visit. they said they only did home visits for people unable to leave their home.but he has already aggreed to the interview on the 20th, so i think it will be ahppening then, whether we object now or not.

he knows what he should do and can advise other people what to do, but can't look after himself in this. i also think eh's giving up the thought of getting anyhting. what i've described makes it clear as far as i can see he is entitled to the lower care, but eh's expecting not to be able to cope with having to appeal. i don't always know how to deal with it when he's stressed and upset cause his reactions to me trying to aren't what i'm expecting, they aren't 'normal'. well, they are to him, but this si where i know we aren't always on the same wavelength. i can talk aspie a lot of the time, but when eh's upset, i'm lost.

but despite himself, he's made some wrong calls on this. he already did so by filling in the forms himself without any assistance. i think there's a point where he thinks he has to cope on his own, so tries to do everyting. and he nods aggreement to things sometimes without thinking of the consequences cause he dosen't want to be difficult. this dosen't always do him any favours.

there was a list somewhere of people who automatically should be offered home visits, aspies were on that list.but whatever happens, they will see him at his worse. the stress will ensure that.
 
but despite himself, he's made some wrong calls on this. he already did so by filling in the forms himself without any assistance. i think there's a point where he thinks he has to cope on his own, so tries to do everyting. and he nods aggreement to things sometimes without thinking of the consequences cause he dosen't want to be difficult. this dosen't always do him any favours.

It's really not a good idea for him to fill it in on his own as people tend to downplay symptoms/side effects etc. and furthermore, because it may be something they've lived with and got used to, they just ignore things that might be important.

A typical example that either equationgirl/VP/greebo might have pointed out to me was when I mentioned that partner was "used to the pain" and that was with me doing his forms. If he'd done them himself (assuming his memory worked), he would probably not even mention the pain because 1) he's used to it, and 2) he wouldn't want to be seen as weak
 
This could, just have legs.

Massive injustice to humans: "meh". Fraudulent tendering for a contract: possible massive fine, and the contract ought to be revoked.
You state in the Guardian that you would be prepared to work with ATOS on the PIP tests.

You do realise that those you represent, disability activists and even politicians want these tests stopped and charities who collude with Atos and the DWP only hinder the struggle against these ideological and brutal assessments.

These assessments will never be fair while they are being used to cut money from the welfare budget rather than assisting people into work. The deaths related to these tests are increasing as more people are forced throught them.

Please rethink your stance on this and help those who wish an end to this unfair and costly, in lives and money, process.

https://www.facebook.com/ScottishAssociationForMentalHealth
 
This gives some clarity about the component awards:
https://www.gov.uk/dla-disability-living-allowance-benefit/eligibility

I have noticed that the www.direct.gov.uk website has been 'overhauled' and a lot of information seems to have disappeared or been moved. I haven't come across an automatic home visit list yet but will keep looking.

he cannot reliably do a cooked main meal unsupervised, unsafe with a stove and forgets, i can tach him recipies, basic skills, but he is still unsafe using a stove on his own when he forgets he is cooking, therefore he does not do this sutff if i'm not in the house. there is also an arguement for needing supervision to keep out of danger, this is solved by my living with him and reminding him about stuff, but on his own he has got into a state without someone to keep an eye on him.he got into a state with visits from support workers every 2 days. he can't live on his own.

as far as i'm aware, it's abut what he can do. i give him a list, he does this while i'm at work. am i right in thinking this is about his abulity on his own, not what he does when i'm there to keep an eye on him? they can't claim he dosen't need this because i'm there to remind him and that is generally enough for him to cope?



oh ffs. son didn't take his ritalin today and i'm trying to do all this with him making odd noises in the background. he has just bounced into the room holding a game boy and yelling 'herpes'.
 
he cannot reliably do a cooked main meal unsupervised, unsafe with a stove and forgets, i can tach him recipies, basic skills, but he is still unsafe using a stove on his own when he forgets he is cooking, therefore he does not do this sutff if i'm not in the house. there is also an arguement for needing supervision to keep out of danger, this is solved by my living with him and reminding him about stuff, but on his own he has got into a state without someone to keep an eye on him.he got into a state with visits from support workers every 2 days. he can't live on his own.

as far as i'm aware, it's abut what he can do. i give him a list, he does this while i'm at work. am i right in thinking this is about his abulity on his own, not what he does when i'm there to keep an eye on him? they can't claim he dosen't need this because i'm there to remind him and that is generally enough for him to cope?

oh ffs. son didn't take his ritalin today and i'm trying to do all this with him making odd noises in the background. he has just bounced into the room holding a game boy and yelling 'herpes'.

I honestly think that, based on the posts you've made, he should be getting the middle rate of the care component due to the level of supervision needed to keep out of danger. I think there's a real difference between supervision for 'keeping out of danger' and because he can't do things for himself. It is about what he can do - and he can do a lot - but equally if there is help you can get to make your lives easier than you should get it.
 
she is lovelly.

if i wasn't dealing with the stress atm, i'd be able to do this myself. but brain does shut down for me when i'm stressed and he is like a tortoise withdrawing it's head into it's shell.

Unfortunately, that's the default position for a significant minority of claimants when faced with the farcical parade of bullshit and vindictiveness known as DWP "best practice".
And boy are they glad about it. Makes it so much easier to achieve those claimant-reduction targets they swear blind they don't have.
 
Unfortunately, that's the default position for a significant minority of claimants when faced with the farcical parade of bullshit and vindictiveness known as DWP "best practice".
And boy are they glad about it. Makes it so much easier to achieve those claimant-reduction targets they swear blind they don't have.

i know.

it's one reason i'm back on the shitty job train tomorrow. i could sign on for a while and have the time to apply for graduate jobs, but i can't face that.
 
Back
Top Bottom