Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support

[Greebo]

Frances, if you think you're entitled to it, you really shouldn't let them do this to you.

I urge you to reconsider. You are entitled to support. If you would like some help with the appeal paperwork I will help you.

Stick it to the man, Frances, fight for what is yours. Don't let those fat cat fuckers steal from you

Word. Do it for every other poor sod who's being screwed over, if not for yourself.

 

[Frumious B.]

I urge you to reconsider. You are entitled to support. If you would like some help with the appeal paperwork I will help you.

Stick it to the man, Frances, fight for what is yours. Don't let those fat cat fuckers steal from you

Do it. If you claim JSA you'll be stuck on the £71 pw you're on now. If you can get into the WRAG you'll get £99ish pw, or £105ish for the Support Group, backdated to when you first claimed ESA. By the time your appeal goes through they'll owe you a ton of money and you'll get it in a lump sum. If you don't appeal you'll regret it - I did.

 

[Frances Lengel]

I can understand why you feel like that, but it isn't the zeitgeist, mate. It's just a discourse some rich fuckers are trying to impose so that they can carry on robbing. The reason so many decisions get overturned on appeal is because the Social Security Commissioners (on whose work the Tribunals base how they make their decisions with regard to individual cases) deal with law and precedent, not with zeitgeiste or discourse.
I'm not sure whether the process has changed yet, but IIRC you have to request a review of the decision first. Why not mail them asking for a review, and requesting a copy of your assessment? That way you can see whether they've cocked the assessment, and whether they've done it enough to warrant going for an appeal.

Yeah, I will write requesting a review - There are some things I reckon the healthcare professional reported inaccurately anyway. And if it was someone else, I'd tell them to at least make a token effort. Cheers.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Furthermore Frances, if you give up, then you're only helping them claim that ESA/DLA fraud has fallen because their numbers will be lower, but the newpapers (ie. Daily Mail/Scum) won't bother reporting that Frances Lengel and others are genuinely disabled and have given up in despair, they'll claim you didn't need it in the first place

 

[Frances Lengel]

Furthermore Frances, if you give up, then you're only helping them claim that ESA/DLA fraud has fallen because their numbers will be lower, but the newpapers (ie. Daily Mail/Scum) won't bother reporting that Frances Lengel and others are genuinely disabled and have given up in despair, they'll claim you didn't need it in the first place

True.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

True.

I hated saying that in case you got the wrong idea and thought I was a DM reader

 

[equationgirl]

Furthermore Frances, if you give up, then you're only helping them claim that ESA/DLA fraud has fallen because their numbers will be lower, but the newpapers (ie. Daily Mail/Scum) won't bother reporting that Frances Lengel and others are genuinely disabled and have given up in despair, they'll claim you didn't need it in the first place

^^^^This. Don't be part of their rhetoric and lies about how the WCA is working. It's not.

 

[Frances Lengel]

I hated saying that in case you got the wrong idea and thought I was a DM reader

I always had you down as more the Express type - The poor man's Daily Mail

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I always had you down as more the Express type - The poor man's Daily Mail

erm... what type read The Express? I don't think I've ever bought it

 

[equationgirl]

I always had you down as more the Express type - The poor man's Daily Mail

I treat the Daily Mail more like Viz.

 

[Frances Lengel]

erm... what type read The Express? I don't think I've ever bought it

I was only joking, but the express is like a ten pee version of the mail

 

[Treacle Toes]

http://www.benefitanswers.co.uk/Non...ESA50-with-descriptors/flypage.tpl.html?pop=0

I have a copy of this if anyone needs it and doesn't want to pay. PM me your email address and I will
send it.

A reminder: I have a digital copy of this and am happy to email it to anyone who would like a look at it.

 

[Celt]

Well, I got my letter this morning about the results of my medical & that's me out of the eurovision. Nul points.

I do consider myself quite appealing, but I doubt I'll bother appealing against this decision, I'm just going to sign on for JSA. I know by doing that I'm doing exactly what the system wants, but I simply can't be arsed with it all - You know how it is. Anyway, I'd more or less reconciled myself to this happening - It's the way things are going, you can't appeal against the zeitgiest.

please re think this. I understand you feeling that way, but the more people who accept the decisions and are put down by this regime, the harder it will get for us all, when they claim it as a success and justify this hideous process because "it works", people will support you, you are not alone.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I treat the Daily Mail more like Viz.

I keep seeing links about someone called Honey Boo Boo but i,ve never clicked on link to see who she is. Her name alone disturbs me

I was only joking, but the express is like a ten pee version of the mail

 

[Celt]

i know that my medical brought me nil points, I only got my 15 points and WRAG through talking to the DWP bod who rang me and who I now know my mental health issues were taken into account, this wasn't cos they care about me, but to many of us mentlers attempting suicide looking bad for the cause. I have been bowed by the process, and I am aware that I will have to apply for pip in March and then start the esa thing again in 12 months, so am going to be on a semi permanent show yourself to ATOS loop, so I am going to get back on my feet and attack the fucker.

And will try and support others through this.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

i know that my medical brought me nil points, I only got my 15 points and WRAG through talking to the DWP bod who rang me and who I now know my mental health issues were taken into account, this wasn't cos they care about me, but to many of us mentlers attempting suicide looking bad for the cause. I have been bowed by the process, and I am aware that I will have to apply for pip in March and then start the esa thing again in 12 months, so am going to be on a semi permanent show yourself to ATOS loop, so I am going to get back on my feet and attack the fucker.

And will try and support others through this.

Good for you Celt

 

[Frumious B.]

Frances, to do a proper job on your appeal I strongly recommend you read everything at benefitsandwork.co.uk. The subscription is a bargain because it will save you tons of money and misery and stress and uncertainty. If you can't afford it people here will send you the documents - just ask.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Frances, to do a proper job on your appeal I strongly recommend you read everything at benefitsandwork.co.uk. The subscription is a bargain because it will save you tons of money and misery and stress and uncertainty. If you can't afford it people here will send you the documents - just ask.

I just got a discount and got it renewed for just under £9.50

 

[Frumious B.]

And Frances, if the appeal paperwork seems daunting, just imagine how much worse it will be to go to the Jobcentre every fortnight and prove that you've been looking for work every day and applying for at least two jobs per week........you'll get miserable and stressed, your symptoms will get worse and you'll end up being forced to claim ESA all over again...by which time that IDS fucker will have made the rules even worse...that's what happened to me. If you appeal now you will still receive ESA at the assessment rate while you are waiting for the tribunal. But if you do it next year, IDS is hoping you'll get nothing.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I was only joking, but the express is like a ten pee version of the mail

Much to my despair, my parents read both.

 

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A reminder: I have a digital copy of this and am happy to email it to anyone who would like a look at it.

don't need that, but thanks.

could do with the equiv for dla.

 

[Greebo]

Much to my despair, my parents read both.

For the wordgames and cartoons, honest.

 

[Celt]

Much to my despair, my parents read both.

my mum likes the tv paper that comes with the saturday mail and the crossword in the sunday express

 

[Frances Lengel]

Got the letter written requesting they look again at the decision & a written explaination etc. I'll post it (recorded) in the morning.

 

[Bakunin]

Got the letter written requesting they look again at the decision & a written explaination etc. I'll post it (recorded) in the morning.

IIRC (I could be wrong so check before you post this letter), the DWP have a policy of not accepting any letter that needs to be signed for or otherwise confirmed as having been received. Not that this policy makes it easier for them to claim not to have received something when it's convenient for them to do so, definitely, absolutely not the case at all.

Especially not when it's something that's in any way supportive of a claimant's case.

 

[Frances Lengel]

IIRC (I could be wrong so check before you post this letter), the DWP have a policy of not accepting any letter that needs to be signed for or otherwise confirmed as having been received. Not that this policy makes it easier for them to claim not to have received something when it's convenient for them to do so, definitely, absolutely not the case at all.

Especially not when it's something that's in any way supportive of a claimant's case.

Never heard of that before - I sent my ESA medical questionnaire by recorded and this form they recently sent me asking if all my details were correct.

 

[equationgirl]

Got the letter written requesting they look again at the decision & a written explaination etc. I'll post it (recorded) in the morning.

If you would like me to look at it, I'm happy to help - I'm sure it's good though

 

[ash]

Never heard of that before - I sent my ESA medical questionnaire by recorded and this form they recently sent me asking if all my details were correct.

Same here recorded is defiantly the best option.

 

[Quartz]

Doesn't it have to be Registered rather than Recorded these days to absolutely ensure delivery?

 

[ash]

Doesn't it have to be Registered rather than Recorded these days to absolutely ensure delivery?

Good question these days it is special delivery that guarantees next day and signed for I think it cost £5 or £6.