Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
- Thread starter Zabo
- Start date
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
National appointments or local office said bunch of bollocks?
toggle
wobbly
national appointments said local office were talking bollocks.
and i've just got out of him that he asked local office whether this would affect his dla. and got told, 'i don't know, this office deals wth esa'. now eithe local office really is talking bollocks, or something is wrong. cause we don't claim esa or any other income related benefits. only thing we claim is DLA. which then passports us to extra bits on tax credits and HB/CTB
he is all in a stress now.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
ATOS Declares Dead Man Fit for Work
“It was a nightmare,” Rosemary, Mr. Wright’s widow, stated. “The doctor assessing James asked him to stand up, so he did before slumping into a squatting position. The doctor took one look at him and said, ‘I’m placing you in the Work Program.’
Then he got up and shook James’s shoulder, and when he fell over, said that he’d be back when James had finished his ‘play-acting.’ It was quite obvious that he was dead.
“It was a nightmare,” Rosemary, Mr. Wright’s widow, stated. “The doctor assessing James asked him to stand up, so he did before slumping into a squatting position. The doctor took one look at him and said, ‘I’m placing you in the Work Program.’
Then he got up and shook James’s shoulder, and when he fell over, said that he’d be back when James had finished his ‘play-acting.’ It was quite obvious that he was dead.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
I spoke to the DLA bods who told me they hadn't asked for an assessment and had nothing outstanding from their end, and then it occurred to me that I originally made a claim for I.B back in 1999. I didn't get the benefit but I am still receiving the NI credits. I'm eligible for them and always have been, but it was so long ago that I'd completely forgotten about it. DLA bods have me another number to ring (Jobcentre Plus) who confirmed that even though I'm only getting NI credits, anybody receiving either credits only or credits with benefits that are disability-related will be up for assessment if they haven't been assessed already.
Basically, they want to assess me because of the original claim in 1999 that got me NI credits, not because of my DLA. I'm hoping (though not necessarily expecting) that they might be less keen on shafting people who are only receiving credits rather than getting payments as well. Time will tell on that one, I suppose.
Basically, they want to assess me because of the original claim in 1999 that got me NI credits, not because of my DLA. I'm hoping (though not necessarily expecting) that they might be less keen on shafting people who are only receiving credits rather than getting payments as well. Time will tell on that one, I suppose.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
I also have a question for the better-informed bods here regarding these Work Capability Assessments:
As I'm being assessed because of getting NI credits on the 1999 IB claim (awarded credits only and no payments) rather than regarding my DLA, will the ATOS decision on my medical affect my DLA entitlement or do I just risk losing my NI credits? As our combined incomes (mine and Toggle's) are above the maximum limit for me to get ESA, if they try and shunt me onto ESA (which I won't qualify for anyway as far as I understand it) what exactly would be the point of their assessing me and then trying to put me onto something I already I won't get?
I've also just spent some time checking carefully through the ESA criteria and I'd get (in a fair and accurate assessment) 63 points based on the limited capability for work section and at least 2 of the limited capacity for work-related activity section.
Regarding my chances of the aforementioned 'fair and accurate assessment' I strongly suspect that ATOS will probably pass me fit for SAS Selection.
As I'm being assessed because of getting NI credits on the 1999 IB claim (awarded credits only and no payments) rather than regarding my DLA, will the ATOS decision on my medical affect my DLA entitlement or do I just risk losing my NI credits? As our combined incomes (mine and Toggle's) are above the maximum limit for me to get ESA, if they try and shunt me onto ESA (which I won't qualify for anyway as far as I understand it) what exactly would be the point of their assessing me and then trying to put me onto something I already I won't get?
I've also just spent some time checking carefully through the ESA criteria and I'd get (in a fair and accurate assessment) 63 points based on the limited capability for work section and at least 2 of the limited capacity for work-related activity section.
Regarding my chances of the aforementioned 'fair and accurate assessment' I strongly suspect that ATOS will probably pass me fit for SAS Selection.
No your ESA/NI credits assesment won't affect your DLA - They're assessed on different criteria.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
No worries mate - You can actually be in full time employment and still be eligible for DLA. DLA's assessed on legal rather than medical criteria, it's awarded depending whether it's deemed you need help with certain everyday tasks, the extra income afforded by DLA is meant to ameliorate for the extra expense incurred by needing help - Crucially whether you're getting the help (from a partner for example) or not.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
See, I wonder if they're going to change that one day to reflect the fact that a person needing help from a partner doesn't actually incur extra costs etc. whereas someone in a wheelchair may need money for new wheels etc.
Having said that, my b/f often gives me money for my Oyster Card etc. as most of it is spent doing stuff for him
See, I wonder if they're going to change that one day to reflect the fact that a person needing help from a partner doesn't actually incur extra costs etc. whereas someone in a wheelchair may need money for new wheels etc.
Having said that, my b/f often gives me money for my Oyster Card etc. as most of it is spent doing stuff for him
It'll more than likely change when this PIP effort comes in. Plus it'll probably be means tested.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
So will people lose money just because they don't incur additional costs like special diets, wheels, taxis etc.?
Probably - I'm only guessing based on the way things seem to be going though.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Blimey, so basically you could end up getting nothing?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Waste of time. Doesn't tell you much
What a load of anodyne weasel words that pdf was. I need a drink.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Just had a phone call from ATOS. Surprisingly, they've approved my request for a home visit AND they've agreed to it being recorded. They'll be in touch with an appointment as soon as one becomes available. Having discussed this with Toggle (whose laptop has a webcam) I was thinking of slipping a piece of masking tape over the webcam 'ON' light and 'accidentally' leaving it running so we could have digital-quality audio and vision (not that their recording might be shorter in duration owing to bits being 'accidentally' edited out or 'lost' due to technical faults in their recording equipment, obviously. I wouldn't dream of even thinking that they might do that, oh no).
Just in case it should prove handy during an appeal and purely for research purposes, obviously.
Just in case it should prove handy during an appeal and purely for research purposes, obviously.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
Well done. Agreeing to being recorded means Atos will provide an assessor who should know what they're doing. Some Atos employed fuckwit being recorded they don't want.
toggle
wobbly
and i've also got him to aggree that
HE WILL NOT HIDE PAPERWORK FROM ME EVER, BLOODY EVER AGAIN
cause he only does it to try to aviod stressing me out. and when he gets in a tizz about stuff, then it only stresses me out more that we didn't have a chance to work though this together. and being self reliant does not mean you don't ask for help when you bloody need it.
HE WILL NOT HIDE PAPERWORK FROM ME EVER, BLOODY EVER AGAIN
cause he only does it to try to aviod stressing me out. and when he gets in a tizz about stuff, then it only stresses me out more that we didn't have a chance to work though this together. and being self reliant does not mean you don't ask for help when you bloody need it.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
DO NOT HIDE PAPERWORK FROM TOGGLE EVER AGAIN BAKUNIN!
That's him told
That's him told
Well done, both of you on that, and good luck sticking to it.
Thanks for the warning.
Treacle Toes
Time
View Full-Size Image
ESA50 with descriptors
Price per Unit (piece): £2.49
Ask a question about this product
This form not only shows the descriptors and points for each descriptor but an explanation of how to explain how your problems meet each descriptor.
Read more at http://www.benefitanswers.co.uk/Non-Means-Tested-Benefit-Fact-Sheets/ESA50-with-descriptors/flypage.tpl.html?pop=0#Q9tzAaztGDJCrkQW.99
http://www.benefitanswers.co.uk/Non...ESA50-with-descriptors/flypage.tpl.html?pop=0
REMINDER: I have a copy of this if anyone needs it and doesn't want to pay. PM me your email address and I will
send it.
toggle
wobbly
do you know any more detail about this?
Similar threads
- Poll
