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Thanks for the help given on here. I just found out today that my friend was put straight in the support group with no test required :D
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Thanks! It's quite an indictment on civil society that I feel this pleased with successfully defending my friend's right to be left alone for a while, to not be destitute just for being ill and indeed her right just to be ill at all because it certainly seems like people are losing their rights just to be ill. I feel like I've won a victory against all this, a small one but a victory nonetheless. It seems ViolentPanda's 'bog them down with detail' advice was correct as that's exactly what I did, around 3500 words of detail! I do feel for those who are ill (fortunately I'm not) and who don't have the support of someone to fill their form out and walk them through the process.
 
got a letter saying i have an assessment in a few weeks ahhh im just dreading the whole thing i mean like the second i opened the letter just this feeling of painful DREAD in my stomach like that i am gonna be homeless or something
 
got a letter saying i have an assessment in a few weeks ahhh im just dreading the whole thing i mean like the second i opened the letter just this feeling of painful DREAD in my stomach like that i am gonna be homeless or something
Yata, you will go to the assessment armed with lots of advice and knowledge from reading this thread.
Starting with take a friend to make notes!
All the best for it.
 
got a letter saying i have an assessment in a few weeks ahhh <snip>
(((Yata))) FWIW that feeling of dread is normal - you get so used to a brown envelope bringing one bit of bad news or another that it becomes a pavlovian response.

Best of luck on the day, try to have some sort of treat for after the assessment (the sort you can manage even on a bad day), and what yardbird said.
 
got a letter saying i have an assessment in a few weeks ahhh im just dreading the whole thing i mean like the second i opened the letter just this feeling of painful DREAD in my stomach like that i am gonna be homeless or something
Please try not to worry. The feeling of dread is unfortunately normal for this process. Make sure you don't attend alone, take someone with you.

Nearer the time we can talk some more about preparation for the assessment.
 
My wife has atos reassessment tomorrow. I can't go with her and she has no one to take notes. Any basic suggestions?

Eta she had depression and an eating disorder amongst her problems.
 
My wife has atos reassessment tomorrow. I can't go with her and she has no one to take notes. Any basic suggestions?

Eta she had depression and an eating disorder amongst her problems.
When was your wife notified of this? I'm asking because it's unreasonable to expect her to do the journey, let alone the assessment, unaccompanied.

In a better world, you'd be able to reschedule the assessment for a time and date when somebody was available to go with her. This isn't a better world. :mad:
 
I'm assuming it's not a home visit yardbird and that Wickerman will be accompanying his missus.

Make sure notes are taken throughout. Sometimes the assessor gets a bit precious about this, from anecdotal evidence, but normally they're ok about it. If there are any memory problems, either from the MS itself or from side effects of any medications, that in itself should be sufficient reason for notes to be taken.

When answering questions, go by how mrs wickerman feels on her worse day. There are no points given for having a stiff upper lip or muddling through. Also, make sure she doesn't turn up looking her best. Atos will simply take the view that as she can obviously make an effort for the interview, then clearly she must be malingering and should be working. No make-up, no best clothes. If mr wickerman has to help her with, for example, getting dressed or brushing/doing her hair, this must be mentioned. Any deterioration since the paperwork was returned should also be mentioned - if a GP letter can be obtained highlighting any worsening of symptoms or side effects I would recommend doing so. Keep a few copies and hand over one to Atos at the assessment so they can't claim they didn't receive it.

Best of luck to them :)
Barking_Mad this earlier post may be of use to your missus.
 
PIPs and assessments.
I read info yesterday from an ATOS insider that the points criteria has been slyly moved again.
I shall search and see if I can find and post it, but has anyone heard about this?
(Goes off to scrabble about)


^^ Scratch that.
It was hoax.
Sorry.
 
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PIPs and assessments.
I read info yesterday from an ATOS insider that the points criteria has been slyly moved again.
I shall search and see if I can find and post it, but has anyone heard about this?
(Goes off to scrabble about)


^^ Scratch that.
It was hoax.
Sorry.
Best to know about the hoaxes though, otherwise people start believing them.
 
PIP is in a mess. We all know it and only the DWP try to deny it.
But the surest signs that panic is beginning to set in is the fact that Capita have now more than doubled the pay they are offering to assessors in their attempt to get on top of the backlog. Capita health professionals now have a ‘new incentive scheme’ which means they can earn up to £900 a day. Not bad for physiotherapists more accustomed to earning £40 an hour.
In addition, the DWP have rewritten their guidance to assessors in the hope of persuading them to carry out fewer face-to-face medicals and assess more people just on paper evidence, backed up by a telephone call to the claimant to get additional information where necessary. Currently 98% of PIP assessments are face-to-face, but the DWP is aiming for this figure to drop to around 75%. This means a big increase in the number of PIP claimants who will be getting a call out of the blue from an Atos or Capita health professional.
We’ll be updating our guide to claiming PIP with more information about how decisions will be made about who gets a face-to-face medical and also with suggestions about how to deal with a phone call from a PIP health professional, by the end of the week.
In some cases the changes will mean claimants with substantial impairments getting an award of PIP without having to attend a medical, which can only be a good thing.
But in other cases the guidance makes it clear that assessors can refuse to make any award of PIP based simply on the claim pack completed by the claimant, with telephone clarification of specific issues if required.
It makes it even more vital that PIP ‘How your disability affects you’ forms are completed in as much detail as possible and that you get medical evidence if you can.
Unfortunately, Citizens Advice have discovered that half of all GP surgeries are now charging for evidence for ESA appeals and there’s no reason to suppose that things are any different when it comes to PIP.

latest newsletter from benefits and work(sub req for full details) valuable info on PIP/telephone assessments
 
I dunno if this will be useful for anyone claiming for or on behalf of those with M.E/CFS. It's the training document for ME assessors so may help to know what you're up against. Some of it really boils the piss, particularly the bit about it being all in the patient's head and that they tend to avoid physical activity. In other words you're a lazy hypochondriac :mad:

By the way does anyone know the name of that researcher who said ME was all in the head and has had to move abroad due to death threats? His name was mentioned in a thread a couple of months ago but I can't find it. Apparently the DWP have welcomed him with open arms.
 
<snip> By the way does anyone know the name of that researcher who said ME was all in the head and has had to move abroad due to death threats? His name was mentioned in a thread a couple of months ago but I can't find it. Apparently the DWP have welcomed him with open arms.
Does Simon Wessely ring a bell? My pavlovian response to his name is to start improvising weapons. :mad:
 
I wanted to know because I wanted to see if his 'research' was used as a source in that document and, it'll come as no surprise i'm sure, it is.
 
I should probably ring up and see if they've got anywhere with my reassessment (questionnaire deadline was feb I think). :sigh:
 
I should probably ring up and see if they've got anywhere with my reassessment (questionnaire deadline was feb I think). :sigh:
They've had my ESA50 since last August, not a peep from them yet, I did ring in about December, but nothing happening. I've heard of others who've been waiting as long :(
 
The DWP phoned me yesterday. A precis of the conversation goes like this:
DWP: Just calling to see if you need any help from us to get back into work?
Me: You have my records in front of you?
DWP Yes
Me: You'll see that when I filled those forms in I had 11 medical conditions including cancer, heart disease and severe mental health problems?
DWP: Yes
Me: Could you work with one or two of them?
DWP: I admit it would be very difficult
Me: Since I filled in those forms I have been diagnosed with two further medical conditions, which makes a total of 13. I'd work if I could but I am busy trying not to die
DWP: Thank you for your time, we'll call you again next year
He was very polite, and I admire their persistence

this was posted on guardian cif, its only anecdotal, but are the DWP now calling up disabled claimants out of the blue as it were to check if they can now work.
 
the DWP now calling up disabled claimants out of the blue as it were to check if they can now work.
I wondered what all those 0845 numbers were that keep calling me and not leaving a message.

Just as well I don't answer the phone to numbers I don't recognise. :)
 
this was posted on guardian cif, its only anecdotal, but are the DWP now calling up disabled claimants out of the blue as it were to check if they can now work.
How does this work? Will they stop your benefits if you say yes, or no comment? Surely, even though ATOS are shiteballs, you have the right to a proper medical?
 
They've had my ESA50 since last August, not a peep from them yet, I did ring in about December, but nothing happening. I've heard of others who've been waiting as long :(
I hope you're not too stressed in the meantime - and I hope that's reassessment so that you're on proper money while you wait.
I'm managing not to stress. Hopefully this give me a bit longer between assessments. I've not called them either. They can fuck off.

Aren't they shelving reassessments as of January this year?
I was sent my esa50 or whatever just before the shelving. Presumably there's a massive backlog.
 
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