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It is a face to face benefits medical assesment, as I said when I got my ESA (above) they are now coming for my DLA
Bastards
It is a face to face benefits medical assesment, as I said when I got my ESA (above) they are now coming for my DLA
Bastards
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm not sure it can be PIP, as it's still only being piloted, so unless you live in a pilot area;
Here's the info from Benefits & Work's "PIP timetable" page:
PIP timetable
From April 2013
The new timetable began with a pilot from 8th April 2013 for new claims to PIP for anyone aged 16 to 64 in the North West and part of the North East of England. Postcodes affected were:
CA, CH (except CH1, CH4, CH5, CH6, CH7 and CH8), LA (except LA2 7, LA2 8, LA6 2 and LA6 3), CW, FY, L, PR, WA, WN, BL, DH, DL (except DL6, DL7, DL8, DL9, DL10 and DL11), M, NE, SR, and TS (except TS9).
From June 2013
From 10 June 2013, all new claims from anyone aged 16-64 will be for PIP instead of DLA throughout the whole of Great Britain.
The only exception will be renewal claims from a fixed term DLA award which is due to expire before 17th March 2014, where the renewal claim will still be for DLA rather than PIP. They will be invited to claim PIP at a later stage if their entitlement continues.
From 28 October 2013
From 28 October 2013, reassessment of some existing DLA claimants will start in Wales, West Midlands, East Midlands or East Anglia.
The postcodes affected are: B, CF, CH1, CH4, CH5, CH6, CH7, CH8, CV, DE, DY, GL16, HR, IP, LD, LE, LL, LN, NG, NN, NP, NR, PE, SA, ST, SY, TF, WR, WS and WV
The DWP will start to invite the following current DLA recipients to claim PIP:
•those with fixed period DLA awards which expire on or after 17th March 2014;
•children turning 16;
• those with a reported change of circumstances which might affect their rate of payment, such as an improvement or deterioration in their condition, but not issues like going into a care home or hospital or changing address; and
•existing DLA claimants aged 16-64 who wish to make a PIP claim, including people who have a fixed-term or indefinite award of DLA.
From 13 January 2014
In December 2013, the government has announced that PIP reassessment areas are being extended to southern Scotland and parts of the borders from 13th January 2014. The postcode areas affected begin DG, ML, EH and TD
They are then being further extended on 3rd February 2014 in the north of England to postcode areas LA, CA, DL, HG and YO.
This means that if your DLA award is due to end on or after 17th March 2014, you will receive an invitation to make a claim for PIP rather than renew your claim to DLA.
Further announcements about reassessment areas will be made throughout 2014.
Please return to this page as we will update it when we know more.
From October 2015
From October 2015, everyone still getting DLA will be invited to claim for PIP. Claimants will be selected randomly rather than by area or age, although the DWP say that they will “invite claims as early as possible from recipients who have turned 65 after 8 April 2013, when PIP was first introduced.”
By October 2017
All existing DLA claimants (aged 16 to 64 on 8 April 2013) will have been invited to claim PIP.
Here's the info from Benefits & Work's "PIP timetable" page:
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PIP timetable
From April 2013
The new timetable began with a pilot from 8th April 2013 for new claims to PIP for anyone aged 16 to 64 in the North West and part of the North East of England. Postcodes affected were:
CA, CH (except CH1, CH4, CH5, CH6, CH7 and CH8), LA (except LA2 7, LA2 8, LA6 2 and LA6 3), CW, FY, L, PR, WA, WN, BL, DH, DL (except DL6, DL7, DL8, DL9, DL10 and DL11), M, NE, SR, and TS (except TS9).
From June 2013
From 10 June 2013, all new claims from anyone aged 16-64 will be for PIP instead of DLA throughout the whole of Great Britain.
The only exception will be renewal claims from a fixed term DLA award which is due to expire before 17th March 2014, where the renewal claim will still be for DLA rather than PIP. They will be invited to claim PIP at a later stage if their entitlement continues.
From 28 October 2013
From 28 October 2013, reassessment of some existing DLA claimants will start in Wales, West Midlands, East Midlands or East Anglia.
The postcodes affected are: B, CF, CH1, CH4, CH5, CH6, CH7, CH8, CV, DE, DY, GL16, HR, IP, LD, LE, LL, LN, NG, NN, NP, NR, PE, SA, ST, SY, TF, WR, WS and WV
The DWP will start to invite the following current DLA recipients to claim PIP:
•those with fixed period DLA awards which expire on or after 17th March 2014;
•children turning 16;
• those with a reported change of circumstances which might affect their rate of payment, such as an improvement or deterioration in their condition, but not issues like going into a care home or hospital or changing address; and
•existing DLA claimants aged 16-64 who wish to make a PIP claim, including people who have a fixed-term or indefinite award of DLA.
From 13 January 2014
In December 2013, the government has announced that PIP reassessment areas are being extended to southern Scotland and parts of the borders from 13th January 2014. The postcode areas affected begin DG, ML, EH and TD
They are then being further extended on 3rd February 2014 in the north of England to postcode areas LA, CA, DL, HG and YO.
This means that if your DLA award is due to end on or after 17th March 2014, you will receive an invitation to make a claim for PIP rather than renew your claim to DLA.
Further announcements about reassessment areas will be made throughout 2014.
Please return to this page as we will update it when we know more.
From October 2015
From October 2015, everyone still getting DLA will be invited to claim for PIP. Claimants will be selected randomly rather than by area or age, although the DWP say that they will “invite claims as early as possible from recipients who have turned 65 after 8 April 2013, when PIP was first introduced.”
By October 2017
All existing DLA claimants (aged 16 to 64 on 8 April 2013) will have been invited to claim PIP.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
They should at least tell you what benefit this in relation to, surely?
This is beyond fucked up.
This is beyond fucked up.
Sapphireblue
Well-Known Member
Celt I think they may have stuck you back on the ESA merry-go-round. It's been known to happen in cases where people win at tribunal, the nasty vindictive fucks!
if it is ESA and your appeal winning letter said you were ok for a certain period of time and that time has not yet elapsed, i'm think you can just contact them and insist that you're not due yet and they will back down (eventually). i'm sure someone else on urban did that not too long ago.
waiting for a call back from my local DWP office, it is for ESA and is a response to the renewal form I filled in in July.
ATOS say they can't cancel it.
I spke to DWP(ESA) Hull and the Grimsby who say they haven't requested it, have spoken to the Blackpool office that deal with DLA, the say they haven't requested it.
Fucktartds
ATOS say they can't cancel it.
I spke to DWP(ESA) Hull and the Grimsby who say they haven't requested it, have spoken to the Blackpool office that deal with DLA, the say they haven't requested it.
Fucktartds
I'm sure they could, if they gave a damn.Good luck.
There's always been a relationship between ATOS and the DWP that seems to be about passing the buck. I first had to deal with them in 2010; I wanted to change my appointment by a month and they said I could. In fact I rang back, twice, spoke to 2 different advisors who both said the same thing, that I could. Didn't stop them causing my benefit to get stopped (it was sorted out very quickly thankfully, the DWP were on the ball that day) - even though I didn't actually change the appointment in the end, nor miss it.
There's always been a relationship between ATOS and the DWP that seems to be about passing the buck. I first had to deal with them in 2010; I wanted to change my appointment by a month and they said I could. In fact I rang back, twice, spoke to 2 different advisors who both said the same thing, that I could. Didn't stop them causing my benefit to get stopped (it was sorted out very quickly thankfully, the DWP were on the ball that day) - even though I didn't actually change the appointment in the end, nor miss it.
Here's hoping that the medical really has been cancelled, so that you can concentrate on looking after yourself. BTW well done on remembering to get her name, as well as (I assume) noting the approximate time and date of the call.
It makes it very difficult for the people at that end to deny what was said to you later on as long as you keep track of those things (AFAIK they have to record the calls for training purposes anyway).
Isn't it that they have to warn you that they may record the calls for training purposes?
Every time I've been on the phone with them it was "will" not "may".
Shouldn't be too difficult for Pauline to write something; she doesn't want for pens.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Bet they can't find the tape if it's necessary, though
Not so easy to lose them nowadays (back in the day the audio was recorded to video-cassette, as I recall), as it's all recorded as mp3s to a fuck-off array of hard-drives, so to "lose" one call would mean losing several thousand at the same time.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Record it yourself just to make sure.Here's hoping that the medical really has been cancelled, so that you can concentrate on looking after yourself. BTW well done on remembering to get her name, as well as (I assume) noting the approximate time and date of the call.
It makes it very difficult for the people at that end to deny what was said to you later on as long as you keep track of those things (AFAIK they have to record the calls for training purposes anyway).
I've got an A4E telephone appointment on Mon (even though I'm in the support group) this will be recorded. I'll also point out they are harassing me.
Very good idea. I'm sure they would argue there's some legal bollocks to being recorded (which i'm sure doesn't apply if they ring you). Just make sure the recorder is as near to the receiving speaker as possible because it's really quiet otherwise (IME).Record it yourself just to make sure.
I've got an A4E telephone appointment on Mon (even though I'm in the support group) this will be recorded. I'll also point out they are harassing me.
I recorded my conversations with the Salvation Army when I attended 2 WP appointments. Gotta love Soundcloud
Don't see why not, even if you have to quote the freedom of information (FOI) act at 'em.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Data Protection Act would probably have more weight as it's personal information-related.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
There's a whole bunch of posts about recordings earlier on in this thread, yardbird looked into it.Very good idea. I'm sure they would argue there's some legal bollocks to being recorded (which i'm sure doesn't apply if they ring you). Just make sure the recorder is as near to the receiving speaker as possible because it's really quiet otherwise (IME).
I recorded my conversations with the Salvation Army when I attended 2 WP appointments. Gotta love Soundcloud
That seems to pertain to recording the WCA interview, not recording a phone call with them.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
There's a whole load of stuff somewhere on here, I remember looking at some recent case law on illicit recordings and writing about it.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
My Dictaphone has an adaptor that plugs into the phone line.Very good idea. I'm sure they would argue there's some legal bollocks to being recorded (which i'm sure doesn't apply if they ring you). Just make sure the recorder is as near to the receiving speaker as possible because it's really quiet otherwise (IME).
I recorded my conversations with the Salvation Army when I attended 2 WP appointments. Gotta love Soundcloud
I suffer from memory loss. The DWP work psychologist says I should record everything. I'd like to see them get round that.
I'm no lawyer, but I would assume that anyone has the right to record incoming calls on their property.My Dictaphone has an adaptor that plugs into the phone line.
I suffer from memory loss. The DWP work psychologist says I should record everything. I'd like to see them get round that.
Seems the smae principle used by legions of youtubers to claim they have every right to film people that knock at their door (admitteldy some of these people are a bit kooky).
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You have an implicit right to record/film on your own property.
However, you need the permission of the other party if you wish to publish or disseminate your recording.
In that way, it's no different than a photographer getting a model release form signed.
However, you need the permission of the other party if you wish to publish or disseminate your recording.
In that way, it's no different than a photographer getting a model release form signed.
No problem then if you're recording just for the purposes of clarification when ATOS take the piss.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Pretty much, although obviously Atos and the DWP have briefed their staff that you recording themwithout their explicit permission is illegal (it isn't), so most of them will kick up a stink if you tell them that you'll be recording them.
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