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Don't forget we had the second best defensive record last season. It didn't seem like it though, the amount of silly mistakes we made that lead to us drawing or losing a game.
 
TitanSound said:
Don't forget we had the second best defensive record last season. It didn't seem like it though, the amount of silly mistakes we made that lead to us drawing or losing a game.
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yes indeed, what was it five goals conceeded in 10 games at the end of last season? Appointing Bould has been one of our best moves of late.

The only reason it seems like we dont (have a good defence) is because the media says we havent.
 
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iROBOT said:
Depends how far your relationship with the team goes back.

Before Wenger I'd say we were renowned for our defencive abilities. Where do you think "1-0 to The Arsenal" comes from?
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Very true, but you weren't a counter-attacking team back then either. It was offside trap and long-ball(ish). I say 'ish' because it wasn't Wimbledon - but it was long ball nonetheless. Your defence was legendary though, and it wasn't all just The Full Monty offside trap.
 
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Corax said:
Very true, but you weren't a counter-attacking team back then either. It was offside trap and long-ball(ish). I say 'ish' because it wasn't Wimbledon - but it was long ball nonetheless. Your defence was legendary though, and it wasn't all just The Full Monty offside trap.
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One mans counter attack is another mans hoofing it.

We were great at it, what ever it was, including the offside trap, the work of a perfectly oiled machine.

Enjoying life without Bale? :)
 
TitanSound said:
Don't forget we had the second best defensive record last season. It didn't seem like it though, the amount of silly mistakes we made that lead to us drawing or losing a game.
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I think "we give away silly goals" is the same type of football cliche as "we always do things the hard way, dropping points to shit teams". Something that just seems true because all goals conceded are calamitous in one way or another, and all dropped points ill-timed.
 
Lo Siento. said:
I think "we give away silly goals" is the same type of football cliche as "we always do things the hard way, dropping points to shit teams". Something that just seems true because all goals conceded are calamitous in one way or another, and all dropped points ill-timed.
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Of course all goals scored against you are a disaster, but we made some really basic schoolboy errors. Facepalm inducing stuff.
 
Just had to give it to spurs LOL.Arsenal came out well in front of this saga.Bale will have to adapt to La Liga big time but ozil could play anywhere in world he is that much class.
 
iROBOT said:
Enjoying life without Bale? :)
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Yes thanks! :)

We're a much stronger team this year, and it's exciting. No creative locksmith when we played you, but that's been remedied with Lamela and Eriksen. Once they and the four billion other new additions have gelled and worked each other out, we're going to be a formidable force. :cool:
 
Lo Siento. said:
"we always do things the hard way, dropping points to shit teams"
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Do other fans say that as well?

It is true for Spurs though. We do things like beating Chelsea, Man City & United, then fucking it up by losing against the likes of Wigan or Stoke.
 
Corax said:
Do other fans say that as well?

It is true for Spurs though. We do things like beating Chelsea, Man City & United, then fucking it up by losing against the likes of Wigan or Stoke.
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Ipswich fans have long said it. Even though a lot of the time the reverse was true - we only beat teams in the bottom half!
 
TitanSound said:
Of course all goals scored against you are a disaster, but we made some really basic schoolboy errors. Facepalm inducing stuff.
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what percentage of goals do you reckon fans (of all teams) describe as "a well-worked goal that, can't really blame the defence"?
 
Corax said:
Very true, but you weren't a counter-attacking team back then either. It was offside trap and long-ball(ish). I say 'ish' because it wasn't Wimbledon - but it was long ball nonetheless. Your defence was legendary though, and it wasn't all just The Full Monty offside trap.
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not necessarily true. It's important to split the George Graham era into 2 distinct phases - up to '91 and 'after '91. Both teams were defensively excellent (not a surprise, given that it was more or less the same defence), but the first team, built around the attacking flair oif pre-addict merse, Paul davis, Alan Smith, Rocky and Michael Thomas was a fast, powerful attacking side that top-scored in the league for 3 seasons (edit; and were champions for two of those).
The second, built around, umm, Hillier, Parlour, John Jensen etc , was a dull, predictable side with no imagination and one star player, and consequently a game plan of 'long ball up for Wrighty to chase down'.
Christ knows how they won 3 trophies.
 
Streathamite said:
not necessarily true. It's important to split the George Graham era into 2 distinct phases - up to '91 and 'after '91. Both teams were defensively excellent (not a surprise, given that it was more or less the same defence), but the first team, built around the attacking flair oif pre-addict merse, Paul davis, Alan Smith, Rocky and Michael Thomas was a fast, powerful attacking side that top-scored in the league for 3 seasons (edit; and were champions for two of those).
The second, built around, umm, Hillier, Parlour, John Jensen etc , was a dull, predictable side with no imagination and one star player, and consequently a game plan of 'long ball up for Wrighty to chase down'.
Christ knows how they won 3 trophies.
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I had Spurs posters etc and followed their results from as early as I can remember, but it was the 1991 team that first really caught my imagination, so that latter side is the first impression I had of Arsenal really. Still always like Wright though even though he played for you lot, and thought he should have been capped a fuck of a lot more often. Him and Le Tiss, both largely wasted opportunities for England.
 
Streathamite said:
a world class player is NEVER a mistake.
and he is.
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Watched Ozil play three or four times for Madrid last season, i wasn't impressed. However his stats are straight out of the top draw. He could have the same impact Bergkamp had, on the team and as a catalyst for future signings. It's not where the team needed strengthening. We can't defend, especially at set pieces and we get bullied off the ball in midfield. Upfront we are lightweight.

I've been disgusted by this transfer window. Gareth Bale complaining of stress regarding his transfer saga when so many young Spaniards are struggling with unemployment. Do you really want to know about stress Gareth? Try living on £71 per week JSA under the constant threat of being sanctioned by JobCentre staff and the Work Programme spivs.
Arsenal cocksure at the start of the transfer window, amateurish throughout, provocative with Suarez and finally panicked into an inappropriate purchase.

Bring back David Dein.
 
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